GTX 480 - has it delivered as of now?

vengence said:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-480-3way-sli-review/1

Exactly which game are complaining about scaling in? CoD:MW2? Yeah it's a real shame it can't do better htan 170+FPS. :rolleyes:
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Er, what? Do you know what "scaling" means? Its the relative increase, not absolute FPS. Tri-sli has poor scaling:

http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/articles/amdnampoZGCa/Clash_of_the_Titans_3way_SLI_GTX_480_test/13

Oh man, look at that sweet 27% increase that a 3rd card gets you over SLI! :rolleyes: (compared to triple crossfire's 47% increase)
 
Tolyngee said:
So, tri-SLI 480's only loss was HAWX, where the framerate's so high that no one would even care?
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huh? look closely to other numbers..

most of them show 5870 tri-fire have better numbers..

and look at the bottom, scaling percentage on average if you cant really read correctly... :rolleyes:
 
shansoft said:
huh? look closely to other numbers..

most of them show 5870 tri-fire have better numbers..

and look at the bottom, scaling percentage on average if you cant really read correctly... :rolleyes:
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Framerate still wins. Who cares about scaling averages if the framerate's winning?

You'd have to be an AMD fanboi to only argue the scaling averages?

Case in point: one person makes $5/hr, but they have a 100% pay increase twice. Other person makes $50/hr, but only gets a 20% pay increase twice.

Sure the $5/hr guy's pay is now 4x as much at $20. But you'd have to be an idiot to gloat at that when the other guy's still taking home $72/hr?

Gloating about HAWX would be like the smaller guy gloating to the bigger guy that at least he gets food stamps?

With a single card, a 480 wins the framerate war.
With two cards, the 480 wins the framerate war.
With three cards, the 480 wins the framerate war.

Isn't this [H]?
 
shansoft said:
huh? look closely to other numbers..

most of them show 5870 tri-fire have better numbers..

and look at the bottom, scaling percentage on average if you cant really read correctly... :rolleyes:
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Um, if you're looking at the translate page, you can't count.

Tri Sli beat tri Crossfire more often than it does not.
 
Tolyngee said:
Framerate still wins. Who cares about scaling averages if the framerate's winning?

You'd have to be an AMD fanboi to only argue the scaling averages?

Case in point: one person makes $5/hr, but they have a 100% pay increase twice. Other person makes $50/hr, but only gets a 20% pay increase twice.

Sure the $5/hr guy's pay is now 4x as much at $20. But you'd have to be an idiot to gloat at that when the other guy's still taking home $72/hr?

Gloating about HAWX would be like the smaller guy gloating to the bigger guy that at least he gets food stamps?

With a single card, a 480 wins the framerate war.
With two cards, the 480 wins the framerate war.
With three cards, the 480 wins the framerate war.

Isn't this [H]?
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This.

We are talking about FPS. Obviously we aren't comparing heat and noise. We are flexing muscle here.

And just like always, Nvidia wins.
 
Tolyngee said:
Framerate still wins. Who cares about scaling averages if the framerate's winning?

You'd have to be an AMD fanboi to only argue the scaling averages?

Case in point: one person makes $5/hr, but they have a 100% pay increase twice. Other person makes $50/hr, but only gets a 20% pay increase twice.

Sure the $5/hr guy's pay is now 4x as much at $20. But you'd have to be an idiot to gloat at that when the other guy's still taking home $72/hr?

Gloating about HAWX would be like the smaller guy gloating to the bigger guy that at least he gets food stamps?

With a single card, a 480 wins the framerate war.
With two cards, the 480 wins the framerate war.
With three cards, the 480 wins the framerate war.

Isn't this [H]?
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oh dear, fanboy calling again..

just because I know what the reality is doesn't mean I am a fanboy my dear..

and if I am ATI fanboy, why in the world I am using a GTX 480 not a 5870? ;)

if you can't read...

I will list them

DiRT 2: N - 124.8 A - 141.7
CoP : N - 93 A - 100

I am not going to talk about HAWX and FarCry 2 since no one plays it.
 
Tolyngee said:
So, tri-SLI 480's only loss was HAWX, where the framerate's so high that no one would even care?

But 5870 tri-fire's beating 5970 CF, so it looks like both clubs can do better with their drivers?
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Scaling was what was being discussed. You get more of a % boost from adding a third card with 5870's, 480's will still win in overall fps due to their fantastic 2 card SLI scaling. Either way, you're talking about two different cost ranges, $1500+ for 480x3, or $1150+ for 5870x3. It makes buying a third 480 less attractive, knowing you won't be getting as good of gains for that extra $500. If your only goal is performance, then definitely go with 3 way SLI 480's. I won't knock that setup, I applaud anyone who takes the time to build such a beast of a gaming computer.

I do agree, both camps have a ways to go with their drivers in regards to multi GPU setups.
 
PostsOnPercocet said:
This.

We are talking about FPS. Obviously we aren't comparing heat and noise. We are flexing muscle here.

And just like always, Nvidia wins.
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I seem to recall a point in time, not too long ago, called September 2009 until April 2010. Ginkgo Biloba :p Nvidia definitely doesn't always win, but they did indeed get the single GPU performance crown back when the 480 hit shelves.
 
^

ANything faster than 2 oc'd 480s to core cloks of 800+ is a total waste, even at 25x16.

2 OC'd 480s cut through anything at any sigle moniter res.
 
I'm skeptical that 3 and 4 GPU performance issues have anything to do with "drivers." Seems more like a bandwidth limitation, assuming it's the same issue everyone's been throwing around as the reason behind the Nvidia 3-monitor delay and CF+EF issues some people have experienced.

And while the numbers say one thing, I'd never do TriSLI without solid confirmation that it doesn't exacerbate microstutter. One GPU is smoother than two GPUs at the same framerate, so you have to wonder how much worse 3 GPUs are.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
480's will still win in overall fps due to their fantastic 2 card SLI scaling.
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I wouldn't really call 80% (SLI) vs. 70% (CF) "fantastic". Marginally better, sure, but "fantastic"? The thing is, the individual cards are slightly faster combined with slightly better dual scaling gives an overall solid net gain.
 
i put 325 down and got my 5870 :D. still working out the bugs. i think the hotfix has fixed my problems
 
GTX 480 SLI is running smooth for me at 2560X1600.

Used to own a 4870X2 and glad I upgraded. Still can't run most newer games max at 60 fps without stutter, but am very close now.

New drivers took care of some newer games though like STALKER COP. Now I get ultra smooth gameplay with everything maxed.

I also like how these cards laugh at AA. Playing Age of Conan right now with everything maxed except shadows are off and I almost never drop below 60 with 16QAA....
 
Bought a gtx480 to replace my hd4870x2. I'm happy with it plus my overall min fps and avg fps have increased quite a bit which was the most important thing.
 
What are the temperatures of these cards ?

Are they still high as what reviews said ?
 
chiggah said:
What are the temperatures of these cards ?

Are they still high as what reviews said ?
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It's still high. I got both GTX 470 and GTX 480.
With room temp 20C and case temp 24C, my GTX 470 hits 84C at full load using Furmark with 80% fan speed. GTX 480 is even hotter, 96C at 88% fan speed.
 
ebolamonkey3 said:
Man, I wish they would make a 512 core GTX 485 w/ 384bit bus.... on 28nm.
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Patience... ;)

I can't wait to see Fermi's real speed. NVIDIA is stock piling these things. I mean, I doubt 100% of their chips have 1 flawed core... just the majority of them. They must have a couple thousand of them, by now.
 
unrealsword said:
Bought a gtx480 to replace my hd4870x2. I'm happy with it plus my overall min fps and avg fps have increased quite a bit which was the most important thing.
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Are you running it on the 620hx?
Does it run fine with that psu?
I ask since I have the same psu and will be receiving my card in a day or 2.
 
Builderbobftw said:
I wish I was using 2 of those on 1 card.

GTX 495?

Hopefully.
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Two full blown fermi chips on one PCB? The water cooling would cost half as the retail price on the card. I mean, it couldn't be done with air and you'd need a BIG copper block, a 120mm radiator, or more likely 2x120mm radiator, two quiet, high airflow 120mm fans, and a small reservoir / pump. That's asking a lot for a company providing these OEM.

I'm not saying it won't happen or that it will be undesirable. I'm just saying it's unlikely NVIDIA could produce an entire line of dual GPU cards that run this hot, with chips that are so difficult to produce they couldn't release a single GPU card, and for a price that would likely be WELL over $1,000 dollars each. If it ever happens, it will be at least one year until NVIDIA has moved to a smaller manufacturing process, resulting in a lower cost and heat and even then, that is only if TSMC fixes their shit.

Hell, if NVIDIA released a Fermi 490 with all cores enabled, that one GPU card would probably sell for $600 alone.
 
I upgraded from gtx 260 sli to a single gtx 480, and i went from averaging 2560x1600 with no anti aliasing in dx9 mode for smooth gameplay for most games to running 2560x1600 with 4x fsaa running dx11 and its always butter smooth... quite frankly there's no contest, gtx 480 smokes 260 sli..
 
PrincessFrosty said:
No it's not a leader in performance, the fastest single card out right now is the 5970 by a fairly large margin, and it's fairly gimped at stock speeds, its built for overclocking and that adds significant performance making its stock win vs the 480 look trivial.
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Much like 4870x2 which I owned I'm sure that it doesn't scale all of the time. 20fps in a modded Morrowind install where my 280 was doing around 60 most of the time is a joke. Thats just one example that really stood out to me. It seemed like when mods went into play scaling went out of the window. Mods are usually when I needed the performance the most. It may be a single gpu but it still suffers from the downsides of crossfire. If I'm going to spend $700+ on a video card I want it to scale all of the time.

You must also have a magic card since those are not the overclocking results that I had been seeing on XS which is sort of an ATI fanboy fest a lot of the time. Those obscenely hot vrms hold back the clocks on that card quite a bit from what I've heard and I beleive it since my card has the same vrms and just as many afaik while drawing quite a bit less juice.

ebolamonkey3 said:
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Originally Posted by sgrinavi
Isn't 5770 SLI really the best bang/$ these days?



How is 5770 Crossfire not the best bang for the buck these days? You can get 2 for the price of a single 5850 and they perform at the level of a 5870.
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What happens when 5770 doesn't scale? You don't ever have to worry about that with 5850. I don't see that point of lower end gpus in cf/sli. I would rater pay a bit more to have reliable performance and make up the money on my power bill pretty quickly.

PostsOnPercocet said:
That is simple, and has already been explained. The 480 produces the highest FPS and less dips.

If this were froogleOCP, I'd agree with you. But it's not. I realize not everyone has top end machines here, but it is still, in fact, hardocp.

If you are looking to get the fastest single gpu the 480 is it.

Now, if you introduce price, heat, power, et cetera, then of course it's a different story.

But as far as FPS, Nvidia is king.
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This is not XS this forum is not dedicated to benching. People here actually use their machines. Some people want the quietest running system possible. I don't ever use headphones, ever. Some people want the most powerful system possible shoved into the smallest box possible. I'm sorry that argument doesn't work here.

I like my 280 but there is no way that I would buy a hotter running, more power hungary card.
 
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Upgraded from a dead 4870x2 (fuck you Diamond , don't ever buy from that piece of shit company) to a XFX 5870 to 2 GTX 480's (Asus) and man.. the difference is there and I love it.

I liked my 5870 but I wanted more performance and I also wanted CUDA. I would say its made good on the promises for the most part. However a revision will allow this set to truly shine .. that and a price drop.
 
Builderbobftw said:
^

ANything faster than 2 oc'd 480s to core cloks of 800+ is a total waste, even at 25x16.

2 OC'd 480s cut through anything at any sigle moniter res.
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I'm waiting on Surround drivers. I even upgraded to Win 7 to try and get those beta leaked ones working, but they wouldn't install, kept saying my win 7 ultimate 32 bit wasn't win 7 32 bit. So I gave up, installed 64bit and have to wait another month.

As to the rest of the thread, I don't play a single game they used for benchmarks, and I find it amusing they are using games known for CPU bottlenecks as evidence of poor GPU scaling.
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
Much like 4870x2 which I owned I'm sure that it doesn't scale all of the time. 20fps in a modded Morrowind install where my 280 was doing around 60 most of the time is a joke. Thats just one example that really stood out to me. It seemed like when mods went into play scaling went out of the window. Mods are usually when I needed the performance the most. It may be a single gpu but it still suffers from the downsides of crossfire. If I'm going to spend $700+ on a video card I want it to scale all of the time.

You must also have a magic card since those are not the overclocking results that I had been seeing on XS which is sort of an ATI fanboy fest a lot of the time. Those obscenely hot vrms hold back the clocks on that card quite a bit from what I've heard and I beleive it since my card has the same vrms and just as many afaik while drawing quite a bit less juice.



What happens when 5770 doesn't scale? You don't ever have to worry about that with 5850. I don't see that point of lower end gpus in cf/sli. I would rater pay a bit more to have reliable performance and make up the money on my power bill pretty quickly.



This is not XS this forum is not dedicated to benching. People here actually use their machines. Some people want the quietest running system possible. I don't ever use headphones, ever. Some people want the most powerful system possible shoved into the smallest box possible. I'm sorry that argument doesn't work here.

I like my 280 but there is no way that I would buy a hotter running, more power hungary card.
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I don't use headphones and noise is fine with me. That's your opinion. Mine is highest FPS with minimal dips is king.

Again, if this was froogleforum, or quietforum, or smallformfactorforum, your opinion would be right.

In this forum, it's not.
 
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