Looks like 6-core will be on AM2+ afterall

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Theres been alot of say that AM2+ would not be be supported.

Stumbled on this page and looks like the M2 and M3 series are starting to trickle in with bios support for them.
http://event.asus.com/mb/2010/m4_6cores/

The M3N78-VM is one listed that is AM2+ and supported so far, yay!

Now 6-core bios update for my M3A78-T yet :(
 
good find looks a matter of time before all AM2+ boards will have x6 support :) This is so awesome that I don't have to buy a board ontill bulldozer comes out in 2011 :D
 
Do you really need a bios update?

I have an athlon x2 255 running in my m2n-lr and it works just fine.
 
I,ve been updated for a few days with F9 BIOS for my Gigabyte MB.just waiting.
 
Bios status:

Gigabyte: GA-MA78GPM-DS2H: No bios yet
ASRock: A780GXE/128M: No bios yet
Biostar: TA790GXE 128M: No bios yet
Asus: M2N-LR: No bios for athlon ii or phenom ii support!

Boo!
 
I don't think I bios update will be 100% necessary, although it would be nice to have the reassurance. I'm going to get a Thuban and attempt to put it in my Biostar board, either way.
 
ordovician said:
I don't think I bios update will be 100% necessary, although it would be nice to have the reassurance. I'm going to get a Thuban and attempt to put it in my Biostar board, either way.
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would like to know if this works for ya since in same mobo boat.
 
lt_shiro said:
M2N-LR is AM2 board, not AM2+
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athlon ii works just fine as well in that board. No reason it shouldn't work.....and it's the only "server" am2'ish board by asus. People have Phen2's working in it just fine. I can't imagine why a thuban wouldn't work. In any case, for a $200+ MSRP board, asus should have put out a bios AGES ago, AM2+ or not, esp since the cpu's seem to work anyhow.
 
It'll be awesome to move to a 6-core while still on my DDR2 Gigabyte board =D Budget efficient!! I've been pretty happy with my unlocked PII upgrade from my old C2D e4500. This will make it even better (when I go x6 eventually).
 
Even if Thuban works in an AM2 board I wouldn't recommend it due to the extra wattage it will suck down needlessly.
 
DedEmbryonicCe11 said:
Even if Thuban works in an AM2 board I wouldn't recommend it due to the extra wattage it will suck down needlessly.
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I most likely will be underclocking/undervolting...so I'm not too worried. I'm more interested in the 6 cores than the clock speed.
 
HT bus will take a big hit,only being able to do 2000mhz at best.
 
No bios yet for my trusty K9A2 Platinum. But I hope it will.

If it doesn't, well, there are a bunch of new boards...maybe finally make the jump to DDR3. Or go back to Intel.
 
Robstar said:
Do you really need a bios update?

I have an athlon x2 255 running in my m2n-lr and it works just fine.
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yes so that the turbo mode works since its bios controlled..

Nathan_P said:
They should have a limit of 125 TDP - thats what the FX-62 used at full bore, mine was in a M2N32 deluxe until the board failed:(
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no and to the person you were answering they are wrong as well..

there are different classes of AMD motherboards.. the enthusiast models supported 125w and 140w for am2 and am2+/am3.. then there were the mid range models which supported 90-125w being that most 125w boards could not exceed 125w no matter what on the PWM/mosfets.. then there are the oem boards which supported 65-90w max.. just because there was 3 processors that supported 125w did not mean every motherboard needed to support 125w processors since those that were 125w were over priced and very few owned them.. its been this way since the am2 socket came out and it will most likely stay this way because its cheaper for the motherboard manufactures to make them this way..
 
140 watt processor FTW!!!!

Seriously, if you're going to get an enthusiast processor (which is what the 6-cores are), then you get an enthusiast motherboard, not just some cheap one. Mixing high-end parts with low-end parts do not go well (did that myself, ended up replacing all the low-end parts anyways) :p
 
If these upcoming Thuban hex-core processors truly work in AM2 motherboards, then that is AMAZING. Kudos AMD!

If only Intel could do the same, have such nice forwards compatibility. :(
 
Nathan_P said:
They should have a limit of 125 TDP - thats what the FX-62 used at full bore, mine was in a M2N32 deluxe until the board failed:(
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My board is rated for 140w, but with my overclocked and over-volted CPU I'm pushing over 200w(according to Sandra estimates). The again, my motherboard was built with AM3 processors in mind, so that can be the difference.
 
I think thuban should be 125W right guys? Just like the phenom 1's? My am2 board supports the phenom 1 125W's...
 
what a waste. we aren't even using all 4 cores we have now. they really should be trying to break the speed barriers instead of just upping the cores until apps and games are utilizing them. let's see some 4-6 ghz processors....then ill be impressed. or even better, since amd/ati has the crossfire going, maybe they could implement some sort of dual processor (ala crossfire) capability along the same line.
 
Rogue71 said:
what a waste. we aren't even using all 4 cores we have now. they really should be trying to break the speed barriers instead of just upping the cores until apps and games are utilizing them. let's see some 4-6 ghz processors....then ill be impressed. or even better, since amd/ati has the crossfire going, maybe they could implement some sort of dual processor (ala crossfire) capability along the same line.
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I think part of the reason that we are seeing more cores might be because manufacturers are hitting a wall with clockspeed. I mean, we saw clockspeed increases all the way up to what? K8/ core? 65nm? However, we're still using the same max clockspeeds that we saw with the 65nm p4's that came out some time ago. I am not sure that we will ever see processors that have crazy stock speeds like 7ghz out of the box. It seems like 4ghz is probably the limit(imo).
 
Can't freakin wait :)

Hoping for 1075T or 1090T support for my mobo, and planning on picking up the 5870 refresh, whenever it materializes.
 
Sweet. I just upgraded my M4A79 Deluxe yesterday. I am glad I went with Asus this time.

I used to used cheaper brands (Biostar) but I was constantly having to shop for new boards because they prematurely quit dropped support of a board.
 
Gigabyte had 6 core support updated in the bios of the 785G motherboards about 2 months ago.
 
pstang said:
which could be why the board failed maybe?
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Possibly but it may of had something to do with the fact it was on for about 7 hours a day every day and was trying to game and run Folding@Home at the same time
 
nonameo said:
I think part of the reason that we are seeing more cores might be because manufacturers are hitting a wall with clockspeed. I mean, we saw clockspeed increases all the way up to what? K8/ core? 65nm? However, we're still using the same max clockspeeds that we saw with the 65nm p4's that came out some time ago. I am not sure that we will ever see processors that have crazy stock speeds like 7ghz out of the box. It seems like 4ghz is probably the limit(imo).
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a lot of it is also trying to keep power usages down.. back in the athlon xp and p2/p3/p4 days no one cared about power usage.. now things have changed.. and its more energy efficient to make a 6 core processor at 125w then to try and make a quad core match the same performance at a higher TDP.. so instead of raising the TDP limits the company sets they try to add cores and performance while staying within that TDP rating..
 
excellent, my m4a78-e is already supported

just consider dropping my 7750x2 for a 3.0 GHz hexacore PII, like 3.5 times the raw computing power!
 
DrFreeze said:
excellent, my m4a78-e is already supported

just consider dropping my 7750x2 for a 3.0 GHz hexacore PII, like 3.5 times the raw computing power!
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shit more like 5x the raw computing power.. lol when you compare the fact that a phenom II 550 would murder that processor.. :p
 
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I've been on the xtremeforums and looks like my foxconn destroyer won't support it. Good thing I'm about to get a 965 though, gotta go pick it up from the post office today.
 
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