Introducing the EVGA Classified SR-2

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The new W555 Dual Socket Xeon motherboard from EVGA now has an official name, the Classified SR-2. Still no official launch date yet but it must be coming soon.

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I have a Mountain Mods Extended Ascension. I'll need to upgrade my MoBo Tray, but I believe it will fit in this case.

I would need to add another CPU to the loop, but my rig can handle it.
 
lehmann said:
what case will this thing fit into
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I'm going to guess that like the other DP xeon motherboards, it's E-ATX sized or so. So you'll be needing a roomy full tower ;)

Assuming the motherboard reviews well, I think it + two 980X's will be my upgrade path.
 
Neb said:
I'm going to guess that like the other DP xeon motherboards, it's E-ATX sized or so. So you'll be needing a roomy full tower ;)

Assuming the motherboard reviews well, I think it + two 980X's will be my upgrade path.
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Nope it's bigger then E-ATX, it's evga own proprietary form factor.
 
osrk said:
Nope it's bigger then E-ATX, it's evga own proprietary form factor.
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Well I was suspecting as much, hence the "or so". The motherboard that I'll be comparing the Evga to is a supermicro motherboard that's "Extended E-ATX", sized 13.68" x 13.00". If it's larger than that then I'll be impressed...
 
Neb said:
Well I was suspecting as much, hence the "or so". The motherboard that I'll be comparing the Evga to is a supermicro motherboard that's "Extended E-ATX", sized 13.68" x 13.00". If it's larger than that then I'll be impressed...
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It is larger, we already know this.

The SR-2 is 381mm width by 345mm length making it slightly larger than their already existing XL-ATX proprietary form factor used on the 4-Way Classified. EATX standard is 305mm x 300 mm so it is quite a bit bigger.

Mountain Mods will have their new trays available on March 19th. Board is going to look nice in my Pinnacle-18. :cool:

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Tobit, thanks for the info.

Now I just need to come up with the funds for my upgrade :D
 
And skynet goes on sale tomorrow... Must make room for beautiful board
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Dan_D said:
I wonder how much that board is going to cost?
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All the rumors are still pointing towards a figure of $500 but I am expecting close to $600. Anything under $600 and I will be happy.
 
Hmmm, $2500 for two processors and a mobo - I think my ashes will fit in the mobo box if I buy that ;)
 
gwarren007 said:
Hmmm, $2500 for two processors and a mobo - I think my ashes will fit in the mobo box if I buy that ;)
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You don't have to go with high-end processors to make a really nice cruncher out of this thing nor do you have to start off with two processors. I will likely start with a single six core or a pair of cheap Quads (with HT) such as the E5520's ($380 ea.)
 
Tobit said:
It is larger, we already know this.

The SR-2 is 381mm width by 345mm length making it slightly larger than their already existing XL-ATX proprietary form factor used on the 4-Way Classified. EATX standard is 305mm x 300 mm so it is quite a bit bigger.

Mountain Mods will have their new trays available on March 19th. Board is going to look nice in my Pinnacle-18. :cool:
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Well I haven't really read up on it so I didn't know. I was thinking of the Extended-E-ATX when I mentioned E-ATX, E-EATX size is about 347mm x 330mm is closer than the original EATX standard. It should fit the other cases that I've been looking at...I hope.

Thanks for the info.
 
Hell, you could start with 1 5520 used for just over the price of a 920
OC that bad boy and run big adv
then, instead of building a second rig, just buy a six core rig
next thing you know you've got more points from one rig than two and you'll use a little less power than two, all for about the same price

the beauty of this board is it's survivability (sp). You can upgrade piece by piece over the next few years of xeon development
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Neb said:
Well I haven't really read up on it so I didn't know. I was thinking of the Extended-E-ATX when I mentioned E-ATX, E-EATX size is about 347mm x 330mm is closer than the original EATX standard. It should fit the other cases that I've been looking at...I hope..
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That is what I was thinking. I think it will fit in my Lian Li Full Tower Case.
My board is Extended ATX - 13.68" x 13.0"
I have a huge supermicro board in there now so will have to wait and see.
I can handle wider, the length is what will cause me some concern.
 
Unfortunately I'm not a fan of any of the cases this thing is compatible with.
 
EvilAlchemist said:
That is what I was thinking. I think it will fit in my Lian Li Full Tower Case.
My board is Extended ATX - 13.68" x 13.0"
I have a huge supermicro board in there now so will have to wait and see.
I can handle wider, the length is what will cause me some concern.
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Depending on the standoff mounting positions it may actually fit in the Lian-Li Armorsuit.
 
I'm looking at all the power connectors on that board.

Yikes....
 
Kendrak said:
I'm looking at all the power connectors on that board
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You don't have to use them all.. they are there for the extreme overclockers/benchers who push their volts to the limits and run LN2.
 
Ya, a good 850 should run this if you go dedicated SMP
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Vaulter98c said:
Ya, a good 850 should run this if you go dedicated SMP
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Not with a pair of high end GPUs it won't. Trust me, you'll need to go over the 1KW mark with this bad boy if used for a high end gaming machine.
 
I am planning on an Enermax 1250W for mine.
 
Hence the dedicated SMP...

I have a feeling with as fast as these could be, you'll gain about the same In bonus that you'd lose by adding GPU, so you might as well go for the cheaper option
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Here are the power consumption tests that Shamino did:

2.8GHz x 2 @ 1.20v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 1x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 535w from AC socket
2.8GHz x 2 @ 1.20v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 4x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 991w from AC socket
4.0GHz x 2 @ 1.30v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 1x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 766w from AC socket
4.0GHz x 2 @ 1.30v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 4x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 1,243w from AC socket
4.2GHz x 2 @ 1.40v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 1x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 913w from AC socket
4.2GHz x 2 @ 1.40v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 4x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 1,390w from AC socket
 
Dan_D said:
Not with a pair of high end GPUs it won't. Trust me, you'll need to go over the 1KW mark with this bad boy if used for a high end gaming machine.
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Sure it will.
Just buy a Thermaltake VGA 650W PSU for the GPU's.
Plus your buying the board for the O/Cing power of 2 CPU's not GPU power.

Vaulter98c said:
Hence the dedicated SMP...

I have a feeling with as fast as these could be, you'll gain about the same In bonus that you'd lose by adding GPU, so you might as well go for the cheaper option
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EXACTLY!!!
 
That's from the socket, so drop a low power 8400 gs in there (ive got 4 already for dedicated rigs)

you could be around 500 watts from the unit, and a good 750-850 could do that without breaking a sweat
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Dan_D said:
Trust me, you'll need to go over the 1KW mark with this bad boy if used for a high end gaming machine.
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Dan, remember you are talking to crunchers in this thread.. not gamers. :D
 
gkanakis said:
Sure it will.
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With more than one GPU and overclocking, no it won't.

gkanakis said:
Just buy a Thermaltake VGA 650W PSU for the GPU's.
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If you used 2 5970's heavily OC'ed it is possible for them to reach over a combined TDP of 700 watts. That 650 watt VGA power supply may not cut it. Frankly I've never liked those things anyway. I'd rather just get two real power supplies, or one larger one that can do the job. We haven't seen Fermi yet but I can promise it won't be a lightweight in the power usage department either.

gkanakis said:
Plus your buying the board for the O/Cing power of 2 CPU's not GPU power.
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That makes no sense. Look at all those PCI-Express expansion slots and tell me that it doesn't scream "multi-GPU" setup. This thing is for high end CrossfireX, 3-Way SLI And Quad-SLI rigs with additional cards thrown in for additional monitors or PhysX support. Like Skulltrail before it this solution isn't for the budget conscious, nor is it only for folding types. Though it may appeal to them as well if their pockets are deep enough, and even if that's the case they'd be going with multiple GPUs as well given that they out perform CPUs when it comes to folding. This is intended for high end workstations, gaming rigs and for ultimate bragging rights.

In any case, for most rigs that will be based on this board, 850 watts isn't going to get the job done.
 
Dan_D said:
and even if that's the case they'd be going with multiple GPUs as well given that they out perform CPUs when it comes to folding.
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This hasn't been the case in a while Dan. CPU folding of bigadv work units is where the points are right now. My Core i7 920 @ 4GHz does 29.5K PPD at the moment.
 
Tobit said:
Here are the power consumption tests that Shamino did:

2.8GHz x 2 @ 1.20v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 1x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 535w from AC socket
2.8GHz x 2 @ 1.20v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 4x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 991w from AC socket
4.0GHz x 2 @ 1.30v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 1x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 766w from AC socket
4.0GHz x 2 @ 1.30v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 4x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 1,243w from AC socket
4.2GHz x 2 @ 1.40v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 1x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 913w from AC socket
4.2GHz x 2 @ 1.40v w 24 threads Full Load + 12GB Rams + 4x GTX285 Classified Full Load = 1,390w from AC socket
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See what I mean? 800 watts my ass. Anyone not overclocking like this and using mutliple GPUs is wasting their money on this board. Even if you just have a hard on for folding rather than gaming, GPUs out muscle CPUs every time. So add those into the mix and you'll break 750 or 850 watts with ease.

Vaulter98c said:
That's from the socket, so drop a low power 8400 gs in there (ive got 4 already for dedicated rigs)

you could be around 500 watts from the unit, and a good 750-850 could do that without breaking a sweat
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Only if you keep the GPUs to a minimum. Again, why? That's a huge waste of a board like this. That's like buying a gaming machine and a 30" LCD just to stick a Radeon 7000 PCI in it. It makes NO sense.

Tobit said:
Dan, remember you are talking to crunchers in this thread.. not gamers. :D
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I realize that. Again the GPU far out does the CPU in that department. Many of the hardcore folders also use GPUs for folding. To buy this board and NOT take advantage of its awesome expansion slot real-estate is insane to me. If you are on a budget and can't afford to go all out like that then this isn't the board for you. It's like buying a Bugatti Veyron and not being able to fuel it or put tires on it, much less pay the insurance premium. It doesn't make sense. A single GPU rig with a quad core processor will out muscle the EVGA Classified SR-2 with a pair of quad cores any day of the week and such a solution would cost FAR less.

Tobit said:
This hasn't been the case in a while Dan. CPU folding of bigadv work units is where the points are right now. My Core i7 920 @ 4GHz does 29.5K PPD at the moment.
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OK, I'm not a hardcore folder by any means but if that's the case the GPUs still give you something right? Again why buy this board and not use all that PCI-Express real estate? You can probably build two quad core machines for what this and a pair of Xeon's would cost. Not to mention a power supply that's compatible with this board. (More to the point, a PSU that has the appropriate amount of 8-pin power headers.)
 
I'm looking at this board because I can take my E5530s and crank them up to just under 4Ghz.

I'm getting 32k ppd on this rig now with no OC. This is pulling about 200 watts.

With the evga board I can probably pull 45k ppd OCing thoes same chips. And probably pulling 350 watts.
 
Dan_D said:
OK, I'm not a hardcore folder by any means but if that's the case the GPUs still give you something right? Again why buy this board and not use all that PCI-Express real estate?
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For the overclocking potential of dual Xeons, something many of us have been asking for for a long time. We are [H]ard, folding for the [H]orde, where bragging rights are a big deal. We want to maximize the PpD of our bigadv CPU work units and many of the new GPU work units have higher CPU usage than they used to in the past so they really impact the performance of bigadv especially when you start packing GPUs into the system. I still do a lot of GPU folding but they are not in my systems that crunch bigadv CPU work units.
 
You could buy two i7 dedicated folders for the price of this rig, but the way the bonus works, one super fast rig would beat out two fast rigs, and be cheaper too run/upgrade long haul

your argument is valid in any other group of people, but not here. Adding every GPU will slow down the cpu's enough tolose thousands of points, so at this high of the spectrum it pays to fold CPU only on this board, unless you've got dough for dual 5660s and 3 295s, but that would be a dual PSU setup anyways
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Kendrak said:
I'm looking at this board because I can take my E5530s and crank them up to just under 4Ghz.

I'm getting 32k ppd on this rig now with no OC. This is pulling about 200 watts.

With the evga board I can probably pull 45k ppd OCing thoes same chips. And probably pulling 350 watts.
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Where are you coming up with this math for wattage? That sounds way too low to me. 350 watts for two CPUs under 4.0GHz with out taxing a weak video card maybe possible, but it doesn't seem likely. That would have to be a very lean configuration. Minimal hard drives, minimal everything. Also you have to understand that a board like this does use a lot more power than a single socket board does.
 
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