? about 120hz

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I have a 55" LG 55LH40 and I don't really like the 120hz feature, I tried watching Transformers and Babylon AD in blu-ray as well as a couple tv shows and it makes it look like everything is moving really fast, like a soap opera. So I set it back to 60hz and it looks better. Is 120hz only good for things like sports/gaming or is it good for movies too and it's better once you get used to it?
 
I think it's just terrible all around. I certainly wouldn't want to use it for gaming.

It's not as bad for sports as for most other things.
 
I think the real problem is that you're used to how movies looks like at 30 FPS, with the 120Hz interpolation it sorta feels like it would be filmed at 60 FPS (I'm not saying it does that but it's how it feels like) and this removes the "movie effect" that you're used to and human is often stubborn to changes and tend to prefer what he's used to even if there's no real reason to it other than that's how it's been. It makes it look more realtime like, like a soap opera like you said. Either you like it or you don't or you could get used to it and start like it even. I don't know why movies had to have this unrealistic low frame rate for starters that makes it feel like it wasn't real, I like feeling the movie feels are real as possible so I actually welcome this.
 
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I think the real problem is that you're used to how movies looks like at 30 FPS, with the 120Hz interpolation it sorta feels like it would be filmed at 60 FPS (I'm not saying it does that but it's how it feels like) and this removes the "movie effect" that you're used to and human is often stubborn to changes and tend to prefer what he's used to even if there's no real reason to it other than that's how it's been. It makes it look more realtime like, like a soap opera like you said. Either you like it or you don't or you could get used to it and start like it even. I don't know why movies had to have this unrealistic low frame rate for starters that makes it feel like it wasn't real, I like feeling the movie feels are real as possible so I actually welcome this.


Problem is that 120Hz interpolation is VERY artificial looking. If the source material would be really shown as 60hz, let alone 120Hz, we wouldnt have a problem. But 120Hz frame interpolation is very unnatural looking gimmick. 24FPS and 30FPS movies have motion blur for reason, to fool the human eye and make it look more natural. Add a computer to draw middle frames on fly, which sometimes are quite artifacted, inbetween those real frames and illusion is pretty much broken.

*edit* Im not turning this feature down completely, there are places where it looks pretty neat. However, to call it clear improvement is quite flawed. Still personally I turn of motion interpolation and leave 120Hz to do what it really should be doing, giving stutter free playback of 24FPS bluray movies.
 
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Yeah, colour me interested once we have true 120 Hz or 240 Hz inputs (from a PC, for starters).

Ain't gonna happen though. =/
 
Well with true 120Hz input it would still look exactly the same when watching 24 or 30 fps movies as fps rate stays the same (but for LCDs it helps against ghosting so that's good). Interpolation makes a more drastic difference and makes the movement appear smoother cuz it actually impacts the FPS rate (adds fake frames) and the artifacts aren't that huge problem anymore but it's still somewhat noticable so I'd only use the first / not so intensive setting.

I don't think 24 or 30 fps looks that natural tbh, it's good enough to make somewhat smooth motion but not enough to make it appear real-life like.

I'm not trying to convince you which is better, but I like this even if it's fake frames as long as sticking to newer models like Sony or Samsung's that's got a good implementation of it.
 
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Well with true 120Hz input it would still look exactly the same when watching 24 or 30 fps movies as fps rate stays the same (but for LCDs it helps against ghosting so that's good)

Yes for 30fps, but for 24FPS 120Hz helps, and the reason is simply. 120Hz divides equally with 24 where 60 does not. 24FPS movies stutter on 60Hz monitors and TVs because of that.

But anyway, this is all a matter of taste. OP obviously doesnt like it, and mostly neither do I.
 
Interpolating 120hz on TV depends very much on the quality of the TV interpolation. Mine has 3 levels, and lvl 1 works very well with movies (i.e. has the 60hz look but still gives most of the 120hz sharpness), lvl's 2+3 look a little off in films but are great for fast moving sport (e.g. tennis).
 
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