ugh...iTunes: Worst software *EVER*

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DragonMasterAlex

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So I've had on a few occasions now a problem with iTunes relating to my iPhone, and as much as I *love* my iPhone, it's really making me want to get rid of it. See, iTunes is a complete piece of shit application. It's slow, it's cumbersome, it crashes constantly. Now, I know the apple knob bobbers will say "it's Windows!" or "It's your PC!" or some other inane horse shit, but here it is: It behaves the same on XP, Vista or even 7--and 7 in particular is a ROCK of stability. But the crashing, slowness and complete crapitude of iTunes isn't even what fucks me off.

Here it is: So I'm doing an update of the apps on my phone, via iTunes. Maybe sometimes it's a carrier update, but more often than not, it's a simple app update. Hell, sometimes it's just a goddamn *sync*, but here's what happens: iTunes crashes. Fine, expected. Try to launch an app on the phone? Sorry, crash to desktop. Try a different app? Sorry, crash to desktop. Reboot phone, launch another app-sorry, crash to desktop. Force reset, it is, then! Launch app, oops, sorry, crash to desktop. Fuck, fuck, FUCK!

Accidental tap of one of APPLE'S apps--bing! Launches without a problem. Ah, OK, so somehow iTunes crashing fucks over EVERY SINGLE APP--except those provided by Apple. And what's my recourse? Complete reset of the phone, which takes about an hour, then resync my apps, which takes about EIGHT FUCKING HOURS, during which my phone is effectively dead weight.

What.The.FUCK? iPhone is fucking brilliant. Apple sucks. GRRRR!

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Don't "Restore from Backup." The only time I have ever seen similar problems with mine is when I didn't do "Set Up as New iPhone". You're also likely to get network service displayed wrong, and other similar problems. Give it a try.

If you're not using "Restore from Backup", then I am not sure what to say, other than I've never experienced any of these problems otherwise.
 
AVT said:
Don't "Restore from Backup." The only time I have ever seen similar problems with mine is when I didn't do "Set Up as New iPhone". You're also likely to get network service displayed wrong, and other similar problems. Give it a try.

If you're not using "Restore from Backup", then I am not sure what to say, other than I've never experienced any of these problems otherwise.
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Believe me, I know, and that's what I do: Setup as new. As one of the techs at the Apple store told me, "We're really stupid, and our backups don't separate the apps and data from the OS, so if the OS is corrupt, the backup is corrupt". Fucking idiotic.

As for Media Monkey, I like it, but it doesn't do apps, games, ringtones, system or carrier updates.

I'm beginning to think Apple's intentionally made the PC version of iTunes into a horrible piece of software to manipulate people into buying their overpriced PC's.
 
i did find one good use for iTunes... grabbing Album Art and saving as folder.jpg
 
I hate itunes. I cant figure out how to get it to recognize my itunes folder on my D drive! Its driving me nuts. I cant get any music onto my iphone right now because itunes is a POS
 
darkhunter139 said:
I hate itunes. I cant figure out how to get it to recognize my itunes folder on my D drive! Its driving me nuts. I cant get any music onto my iphone right now because itunes is a POS
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Hold shift --> Open iTunes --> you'll get a "select where library is located" popup.
 
I wish there was alternative just for the iphone. I just want an app/iphone manager not a bloated all-in-one music-movie-store organizer
 
AVT said:
Hold shift --> Open iTunes --> you'll get a "select where library is located" popup.
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I do that but they I get a ! by all my songs and it says I need to locate them. This is driving me nuts
 
itunes works great for just my basic mp3 listening needs. i like the way it is able to sort my music and overall usability for just playing/searching mp3s is nice.

i was just given a ipod nano but havent gotten to test it out yet. so it should be interesting my first time syncing it up with a player.

the only thing i absolutely HATE is how long it takes to add my whole collection of mp3s(105gb) to the itunes library. i literally have to leave it running overnight. fortunately this doesnt happen very often so its an annoyance im willing to live with.

and for some reason everytime i reinstall itunes, it just happens to find even more album artwork than i previously had aquired...very strange indeed.
 
Man, seriously? This sounds a lot like "user error" to me. The only problem I have with iTunes is it's shitty library management chops. There is no reason why it shouldn't be able to find, verify and remove duplicates and actual dead tracks. This is the only issue I have with it.
 
Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced---> make sure "Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to Library" is selected.

I think this is your problem.
 
persisting1 said:
Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced---> make sure "Copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to Library" is selected.

I think this is your problem.
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they should just make this the default option imo
 
I'd agree to an extent - once you've used iTunes on any sort of Mac especially, you suddenly realize exactly how bad the PC version is in comparison. It's pretty horrifying.
 
I had to move everything to my C drive then consolidate it back to my D drive. Thats so stupid, itunes sucks I wish I could use the zune software with my iphone haha.
 
darkhunter139 said:
I had to move everything to my C drive then consolidate it back to my D drive. Thats so stupid, itunes sucks I wish I could use the zune software with my iphone haha.
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It's Windows that's stupid in that it labels drives with C, D, E, etc. On OS X it's merely a Volume name and the drive is identified uniquely by other means. Drive letters in Windows really piss me off.
 
I feel your pain in the PC area of things. But, as a Mac user, I've never seen any form of what the OP was experiencing. Minus the occasional iphone app crash. That's to be expected tho.
 
itunes works fine for me. I've NEVER had it crash in all the years i've been using it. It's been fast and stable. I've used it with a library on another drive and right now with a library on another computer on my network. Works fine.
 
it is what it is, and mostly what it always has been. if you don't want to use itunes, just get a freakin' droid. It's not like you never saw itunes before you bought an iphone. You knew what you were getting into.
 
itunes doesnt work well with windows 7 pinning either...

as you can see in the picture if i open a program other than itunes from a pin...the button changes where the pin used to be located. itunes makes another button altogether... :rolleyes:

see pic

itunespin.jpg
 
4b5eN+EE said:
then people complain when itunes moves all their music from where they put it.
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+1 mofoing one.

I've never really had many problems with iTunes tbh. The things I'm not so cool with are the duplicate songs and the ! when you move songs from somewhere. I have no idea about OSes in general - but should not it be a reasonably simple thing to track the music when its location is changed?
 
Haste266 said:
itunes doesnt work well with windows 7 pinning either...

as you can see in the picture if i open a program other than itunes from a pin...the button changes where the pin used to be located. itunes makes another button altogether... :rolleyes:

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http://haste.4saken.org/pics/itunespin.jpg[][/QUOTE]

Unpin the one that is currently pinned, and pin the itunes icon from the open one. Fixed it for me. Always seems to do it when you update it.
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ep3w said:
Unpin the one that is currently pinned, and pin the itunes icon from the open one. Fixed it for me. Always seems to do it when you update it.
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thanks, that worked!
 
Does anyone know how to make live messenger behave like on Xp/Vista - ie to go in the icon tray?
 
I sure wish iTunes offered any sort of plug-in architecture to allow it to work seamlessly with other codecs.
 
sphinx99 said:
I sure wish iTunes offered any sort of plug-in architecture to allow it to work seamlessly with other codecs.
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Don't mean to troll or anything, but that can only be replied to as "HAHAHAHAHA"


:p
 
itunes works perfectly fine for me. I was hesitant when i got my iphone due to all the complaints about itunes, it found all my music synced it up, transfered it over for me without any hassle slowness, or pain.

I'm enjoying it and recently switched from media monkey to itunes as my full time player.
 
Koko56 said:
Don't mean to troll or anything, but that can only be replied to as "HAHAHAHAHA"


:p
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Well, since I'm still fairly new to this, perhaps you can explain your reply - is it because this functionality is there and I don't know how to access it, or because Apple would not do such a thing and everyone but me knows it?
 
ryken said:
it is what it is, and mostly what it always has been. if you don't want to use itunes, just get a freakin' droid. It's not like you never saw itunes before you bought an iphone. You knew what you were getting into.
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The Phone isn't the problem-iTunes is. And I wouldn't buy a piece of shit Droid anyway, as it's only a fraction as useful as the iPhone is for productivity today thanks to its app store. Someday Droid might be worth the hassle--but not yet.

What I REALLY hope is that WinMo 7 finally ships, mandates something powerful like Tegra as its hardware platform, and improves on everything the iPhone does right (which is still FAR more than the Droid does right). Then I can tell Apple AND google to shove it :p
 
Archer75 said:
itunes works fine for me. I've NEVER had it crash in all the years i've been using it. It's been fast and stable. I've used it with a library on another drive and right now with a library on another computer on my network. Works fine.
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No offense, but I don't believe you for a MOMENT that you've been using it on a PC and it's been "fast and stable". iTunes has NEVER been fast on a PC, and it's become less stable with every new release.

That said, I hear-though I do take it with a grain of salt-that the mac version is a whole different animal, and if that's what you're referring to, that's all well and good. But I've used the PC version on a wide variety of hardware, with numerous versions of Windows, for YEARS--and it's never, EVER been very fast or particularly stable.
 
DragonMasterAlex said:
No offense, but I don't believe you for a MOMENT that you've been using it on a PC and it's been "fast and stable". iTunes has NEVER been fast on a PC, and it's become less stable with every new release.
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You're doing it wrong then. :rolleyes:

Much like Archer, I haven't a problem with iTunes (PC) and it works fine and dandy for me (with the exception of the duplicate thing I mentioned earlier).
 
A coworker and I like to argue about which is worse, Firefox on Mac or iTunes on Windows.

I just hate the way everything seems to be done in a black box. I just want it to do something simple, but there's no way to tell it to just do that one thing. I think it would work better if I just give up all attempts to make it do things the way I want, and just let it do whatever it wants to by default.

Oh yeah, my version of Windows isn't supported by iTunes either.
 
InvisiBill said:
Oh yeah, my version of Windows isn't supported by iTunes either.
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Exactly what "version" of windows are you using that doesnt support Itunes?
I have used the program on XP, Vista32 and 64 and now on W7 Ultimate32 and 64 and have never had a problem. The program runs smoothly and acts exactly how its suppose to. I have never had Itunes "crash" on my system either. I also have my entire Itunes media stored on an external drive and have never had a problem with the program finding it.
 
sphinx99 said:
Well, since I'm still fairly new to this, perhaps you can explain your reply - is it because this functionality is there and I don't know how to access it, or because Apple would not do such a thing and everyone but me knows it?
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I don't know much about music managing software either. I meant that Apple keeps quite to itself, so it's a pretty unlikely thing to have addons for iTunes and whatnot.
DragonMasterAlex said:
No offense, but I don't believe you for a MOMENT that you've been using it on a PC and it's been "fast and stable". iTunes has NEVER been fast on a PC, and it's become less stable with every new release.

That said, I hear-though I do take it with a grain of salt-that the mac version is a whole different animal, and if that's what you're referring to, that's all well and good. But I've used the PC version on a wide variety of hardware, with numerous versions of Windows, for YEARS--and it's never, EVER been very fast or particularly stable.
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You know that is odd. All I use iTunes for is music and that's it, I rarely use my iPod mini now. However I don't really remember having any particular issues with it.
 
DragonMasterAlex said:
No offense, but I don't believe you for a MOMENT that you've been using it on a PC and it's been "fast and stable". iTunes has NEVER been fast on a PC, and it's become less stable with every new release.

That said, I hear-though I do take it with a grain of salt-that the mac version is a whole different animal, and if that's what you're referring to, that's all well and good. But I've used the PC version on a wide variety of hardware, with numerous versions of Windows, for YEARS--and it's never, EVER been very fast or particularly stable.
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It's always been fine for me. I don't know what to tell you. I have about 6000 songs in my library. I download podcasts daily. And my library is on my server. It just doesn't crash on me. I don't know if it's because i'm using 64bit windows and have been since Vista beta.
I also run itunes on my hackintosh and I really don't see much of a difference in performance. Maybe slightly more responsive.

I also don't let itunes organize my music or copy it to it's folder.
 
I've had issues with iTunes as well. Probably stems from using a Windows PC. When I moved from using two iPhones, one iTunes account and one Windows profile to two iPhones, two Windows profiles, I've not found a decent way to share calendars and music (stored in one location, on an external drive) in iTunes. I get errors thrown or appointments don't sync properly (if at all).

From those I know in a similar situation with a Mac, they 'subscribe' to each other's calendar and are able to get the appointments that way. I don't know how well music is shared at that point.
 
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