Microstuttering on a GTX280?

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fociz

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I know what your thinking...wha?

I upgraded my 8800gtx oc to a bfg gtx280 ocx.

So far im seeing a good difference in games but..
Im a big wow player and although i have a high framerate(45-60fps capped most the time.)at 1920x1080 with all eye candy on, im getting this strange suttering with the graphics, its difficult to explain.

As i navigate through the world as i go by buildings in say shattrath city on my mount its almost as if the rendering is jumpy as i go by..i just dont know wth it is?

Ive wiped the drivers and reinstalled 177.92's with no luck.

I put my 8800gtx back in and NO STUTTER..Wtf!

Im wondering if its a hardware issue with these new cards..or maybe its just a driver issue? I just dont know.
 
Is that just happened to WOW or every other game? a gtx280 shouldn't have this problem unless You got one of those (few imo) faulty gtx280. To find out whether Yours faulty or not, check GPU Temp while gaming.
 
driver issue. and studding can be a cpu issue. Did you clean out the old drivers with driver clean before you did the install
 
Valset said:
driver issue. and studding can be a cpu issue. Did you clean out the old drivers with driver clean before you did the install
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Yes.

Funny thing is im running my cpu at 2.6ghz atm due to summer heat, i tried my 8800gtx in my roomies comp(e6600 oc'd to 3.0)and is runs smooth as butter yet on mine im looking at 35fps vs his 55-60fps in shattrath city with the same settings in video..wtf is going on here?

Am i being held back by my q6600@2.6ghz?

Something doesnt seem right cause of the jumpiness of the rendering..it just feels off.

Crysis feels ok, it seems to be pre-dominently a WoW issue atm.
 
Zinn said:
in WoW? hell no

this may seem counterintuitive, but try turning on vsync.
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Thx, i should have stated vsinc is on..

I seriously dont know what the fuck is going on but the game is actually slower running on the gtx280 vs 8800gtx.


WTF MAN!..
 
you have a conflict somewhere. I had a hell of a time getting mine to work right as well. time to start going through item by item.
 
BanDeodorant said:
Doesn't microstuttering only exist on multi-gpu setups?
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no, the cpu side can cause it as well, esp if you have other programs running. Its usually due to drivers. they can render frames unevenly, several in short secession then turn to another task, then render several more and so on
 
Valset said:
you have a conflict somewhere. I had a hell of a time getting mine to work right as well. time to start going through item by item.
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What is it that fixed your issue?

I have a clean install of winxp home sp2
I have no startup programs through msconfig.
I have no anti-virus software installed.
 
GlacierFreeze said:
Yes but apparently he thinks his driver/software issue is microstutter.
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It probably is just having a similar effect, but is not the same kind of microstutter.

I've experienced this before, but the problem was my anti-virus was running in the background while I was playing bioshock. oops.
 
fociz said:
What is it that fixed your issue?

I have a clean install of winxp home sp2
I have no startup programs through msconfig.
I have no anti-virus software installed.
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mine was an incompatibility with my monitor. I had to use a registry edit to get it to work, would not scale correctly and had artifacting
 
try turning vsync OFF and then setting the process affinity to only one of your CPU cores.
 
Valset said:
mine was an incompatibility with my monitor. I had to use a registry edit to get it to work, would not scale correctly and had artifacting
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Dude I had the same problem with all sorts of video cards on an old samsung 20" monitor I used to have. It was weird because it felt like everything was jumpy and I too got artifacts in a lot of games. as soon as I got my 24" gateway monitor it never happened again.

So OP it may actually be your monitor at fault for the issue with your 280. I would look into that.
 
I run WoW on a GTX 280, 2560x1600 with everything set to max in game options, and no issues with graphical performance anywhere, including 25 man raids (though the frame rate can go down to 20fps, it's still smooth). I've run with VSync on and off with no issues.

I also quad box on this machine (I guess it's not really quad boxing since I'm only using one box) and never had any issues with graphics stuttering...

I'm using latest NV beta drivers and running Vista 64, not exactly the same config as you unfortunately, so all I can say is it's working for me :/

A few years ago I did have an issue with character turning not being smooth (face on direction, spin your guy around, and it wouldn't animate correctly) but everything else was fine. At some point that went away, probably when I got a new gfx card, but it sounds like a different problem from what you're having.
 
Are you set to single display acceleration in the NV control panel?

Also, have you tried windowed-full screen mode in wow?

NV driver release notes have mentioned issues with wow for some time.
 
One idea you might want to try is starting fresh with WoW

C:/Programs/World of Warcraft

Delete the WTF and Cache files there. Be sure to back up any macros you may have (they're in a text doc called "Macros-Cache" within the WTF/account/username file. After you do that reset all your preferred in-game options. May not help, but I've taken care of numerous graphical problems over the years by letting these two files rebuild themselves.
 
i previously had a 9800gtx and now have 4870 x2..just tested crysis at 1920x1200 2x aa and settings on high was getting av 40 fps in game and didnt seem to suffer from any slowdown but still testing..

on warhammer my fps has been around 50 or so with same simliar settings..

my cpu is a quad core at 2.66ghz so im thinking my performance is being held back this..

i had been getting this stuttering in games like dungeons and dragons and also medieval war...frankly i can understand your frustration as its not a real prob but one that really get on your tits...

i guess now ill try and overclock my cpu to around 3.0ghz
 
Jeffredo said:
One idea you might want to try is starting fresh with WoW

C:/Programs/World of Warcraft

Delete the WTF and Cache files there. Be sure to back up any macros you may have (they're in a text doc called "Macros-Cache" within the WTF/account/username file. After you do that reset all your preferred in-game options. May not help, but I've taken care of numerous graphical problems over the years by letting these two files rebuild themselves.
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I believe i have fixed the issue.

It appears to have been a WoW issue, an addon i use called quest helper was unstable for some reason, also when i tried using wowace updater it informed me that most of my ace files(addon programs)were unstable.

I dont know wtf happened but it happened..
I deleted WTF and Cache(ty.)and actually dumped my Interface folder too and started over, i downed all my addons and now it appears to be normal again, fps in shat is 45-60fps without the jumpiness i was having.

Thx you guys for all your feedback it really helped alot.
When youve been building computers as long as we have its tough when your stumped on a wierd problem, you feel all alone until you come to a place like this and get solid answers from the gang here.

Thx again guys.
 
fociz said:
I know what your thinking...wha?

I upgraded my 8800gtx oc to a bfg gtx280 ocx.

So far im seeing a good difference in games but..
Im a big wow player and although i have a high framerate(45-60fps capped most the time.)at 1920x1080 with all eye candy on, im getting this strange suttering with the graphics, its difficult to explain.

As i navigate through the world as i go by buildings in say shattrath city on my mount its almost as if the rendering is jumpy as i go by..i just dont know wth it is?

Ive wiped the drivers and reinstalled 177.92's with no luck.

I put my 8800gtx back in and NO STUTTER..Wtf!

Im wondering if its a hardware issue with these new cards..or maybe its just a driver issue? I just dont know.
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Sounds to me like a power issue , if the card is choking for power then it might be stuttering do to this. What kind of PSU do you have? Also Micro-stuttering = dual GPU solution problem not single GPU issue.
 
fociz said:
I believe i have fixed the issue.

It appears to have been a WoW issue, an addon i use called quest helper was unstable for some reason, also when i tried using wowace updater it informed me that most of my ace files(addon programs)were unstable.

I dont know wtf happened but it happened..
I deleted WTF and Cache(ty.)and actually dumped my Interface folder too and started over, i downed all my addons and now it appears to be normal again, fps in shat is 45-60fps without the jumpiness i was having.

Thx you guys for all your feedback it really helped alot.
When youve been building computers as long as we have its tough when your stumped on a wierd problem, you feel all alone until you come to a place like this and get solid answers from the gang here.

Thx again guys.
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hard telling. glad you got it fixed.
 
Godmachine said:
Sounds to me like a power issue , if the card is choking for power then it might be stuttering do to this. What kind of PSU do you have? Also Micro-stuttering = dual GPU solution problem not single GPU issue.
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The power supply won't cause FPS loss or stuttering. If you don't have enough power you'll experience instability with the system or hard lockups.
 
That's great to hear fociz! WoW should be practically nailed at 60 FPS everywhere and smooth as glass with a rig like yours. And Quest Helper did cause me issues as well, not so much stuttering, but graphical glitches the one time I tried it. Its a shame because its really helpful.
 
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