Planning on ordering wc stuff, loooking for feedback please

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Laing D5 Vario/Swiftech MCP655 Inline 12V DC Pump
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcin12pu.html

D-TEK FuZion Universal CPU Waterblock - 1/2"
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfuuncpubl1.html

Swiftech MCW60-R GPU Waterblock w/ G80 Adapter Plate
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcgpuwawg8.html

Swiftech MC8800 SMC Cooling Kit
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcsmccokit.html

Swiftech MCR-220 "Quiet Power" Series Radiator - Black
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcqposerab.html

120mm Yate Loon D12SM-12 Case Fan the medium version straight from petra.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa1.html
4 for $20 how can you go wrong with that?

Swiftech MCRES-MICRO Hi-Flo Reservoir from
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html

Ceramique - 2.5 gram tube
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ce25grtu.html

1/2" ID (3/4" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing
http://www.petrastechshop.com/1id3odmagepu.html
10 feet

All this stuff will be cooling a q6600 2.4ghz at stock settings and an 8800gt also at stock settings this stuff is on a gigabyte ga-g33m-ds2r with 2gig of gskill ram. Will that radiator be enough to cool the gpu and cpu? Due to space limitations if i need more radiator I'd have to add an single 120 into the loop and have some really wierd mounting issues.

I've spent a bunch of time reading all the other threads of people setting up their system and read some reviews on this and other forums. If anyone has some suggestions as to why some other parts would be better I'm all ears. I'm also open to suggestions on how to save some $. I know most of this stuff should transfer if/when I upgrade but its still a lot of $, about $350 with shipping.

Any constructive comments or critiques are greatly appreciated and many thanks in advance.
 
You will be ok with that radiator but you wont be getting the best temperatures. You could try the loop with just that and see if you are pleased with it, if not you can add the other 120mm radiator to the loop. All of your components look good on the watercooling side, seems like you have done your homework. The only suggestion I have is to get MX-2 instead of Ceramique. MX-2 is a lot better and is also non-conductive just like Ceramique.
 
Are you aware that you are about to make a singleslotcard a dualslotcard by using that GPUcooling?
With a EK FC-block(confirmed) you will have a singleslotcard, that if you need the PCI-slot under the PCIe-slot.
 
Erasmus354 said:
You will be ok with that radiator but you wont be getting the best temperatures. You could try the loop with just that and see if you are pleased with it, if not you can add the other 120mm radiator to the loop. All of your components look good on the watercooling side, seems like you have done your homework. The only suggestion I have is to get MX-2 instead of Ceramique. MX-2 is a lot better and is also non-conductive just like Ceramique.
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I'll take a look at the MX-2, thanks for the suggestion. I'm not looking for extreme oc with this loop, just to make the pc a lot quieter at stock settings and I'm sure it will perform better then the anemic stock cooler on the 8800gt.

E.R said:
Are you aware that you are about to make a singleslotcard a dualslotcard by using that GPUcooling?
With a EK FC-block(confirmed) you will have a singleslotcard, that if you need the PCI-slot under the PCIe-slot.
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Will that EK FC block be a universal one like the MCW60-R or will it be card specific? This is the first I've heard of it; I'll look into it a bit more before I press the order button. Taking up 2 slots is not a big deal for me and for the forseeable future I dont think I'll need that pci slot. Thanks for the heads up tho.
 
The EK block will be card-specific -- FC means "full coverage". No such thing as a universal full coverage block. Universal blocks tend to make things dual slot -- it's a trade-off worth making if you have the space..

Do you have a quad or a dual core? If it's a dual you should be fine with a MCR-220. If it's a quad and you plan to OC much you should /seriously/ look in to the MCR-320. I realize th 8800GT runs a lot cooler than the GTX, but... one can never have too much surface area. Especially when the goal is quiet.
 
silent-circuit said:
The EK block will be card-specific -- FC means "full coverage". No such thing as a universal full coverage block. Universal blocks tend to make things dual slot -- it's a trade-off worth making if you have the space..

Do you have a quad or a dual core? If it's a dual you should be fine with a MCR-220. If it's a quad and you plan to OC much you should /seriously/ look in to the MCR-320. I realize th 8800GT runs a lot cooler than the GTX, but... one can never have too much surface area. Especially when the goal is quiet.
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Its a quad. The goal is both quiet and portable. I dont plan on overclocking much if at all in this case.
The case I have is not big enough to mount a 3 fan rad in. The plan is to mount the dual fan rad by hanging it down from the fans the top of which will be level with the top of the case so there is nothing sticking out to be crushed/bent/broken etc. The fans will be in a pull config exhausting up and out of the case. There is not enough room for a 3 fan rad up there. If the dual 120's dont/cant cut it I can mount another 120 fan and rad on the side panel of the case, not sure what that will do to my flow rate/pressure but it might work. If that didn't make sense I'll take some pics of the case and use paint to show what I'm thinking.
 
I'd plan on another 120mm rad, then. Flow shouldn't be too adversely affected -- you're using fairly free flowing blocks and the Laing D5 Vario is strong as hell.

Go with the 7/16" ID Masterkleer instead of the 1/2" ID -- you can get it over 1/2" barbs and get a better fit, and it'll stay on better. Well enough you might not even need clamps.

I realize cost is high. Unless you need this stuff /right now/ you can pick up a lot of it second-hand and save somewhere from 1/3 to 1/2 the cost. Watch the FS/FT forums.
 
E.R said:
Are you aware that you are about to make a singleslotcard a dualslotcard by using that GPUcooling?
With a EK FC-block(confirmed) you will have a singleslotcard, that if you need the PCI-slot under the PCIe-slot.
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The EK block isn't quite single slot, the DD IONE and the AquaComputer G92 blocks are single slot though. I would stick with the MCW60s since they are universal.
 
Erasmus354 said:
The EK block isn't quite single slot, the DD IONE and the AquaComputer G92 blocks are single slot though. I would stick with the MCW60s since they are universal.
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EK G92 is actually singleslot thats a fact, just like the FC for 8800 GTS/Ultra is singleslot, its use 1.6 slot and you CAN use the slot under and that IS CONFIRMED by EDDIE at EK who made the blocks and knowns it the best, thus singleslotcard and the part that makes this cards 1,6 slot it the screws but they are NOT in the way for use of slot under the PCI-e slot on regular MB:s.
DD-blocks sucks and is just poor build compare to EK, just a ripoff moneywice.
And universalshits sucks to mutch in my book and you need to aircool memories, and when you least want or need is the heatsink falsl off and burn you memories and card, that is just a matter of time when it happens, not if.
OC will bet better to, especially on card that demanding good memory/VRM-cooling like 8800-series not to give the "driver not responing issue" I would never trade space against universality since a FC block aint that expensive today and cools memmorise and VRM good on cards that need that and you will get money back when selling the old block if you trade card, not all but a good share and make a new block not expensive at all.
 
FC blocks don't cool Vregs/RAM better than good RAMsinks, as a general rule. Heat transfer from the core tends to offset any advantage there might've been. I have never had heat-related stability issues with my GTX, and I'm using a universal block and RAMsinks. Don't spread misinformation.
 
silent-circuit said:
FC blocks don't cool Vregs/RAM better than good RAMsinks, as a general rule. Heat transfer from the core tends to offset any advantage there might've been. I have never had heat-related stability issues with my GTX, and I'm using a universal block and RAMsinks. Don't spread misinformation.
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Yes they do. Only one that missinform by purpos is you, here is the fact in the case.
On universal block and aircooling on Vreg and RAM or just aircooling of the card i get the famous "driver not respoing thing" in Vista on low OC or no OC at all if the computer has been running for a couple of weeks or it is hot in the room like summertime and no window has been open for a long time.
On FC-block i never ever got that error and it has been very hot in the case and room but RAM and vreg has stay cool enought since no error accured.
There is nothing wrong with the card that some clame for this error, just the heat that cause this error when vreg/RAM get to hot. That mening not hot as burning hot, just to hot for the vreg or RAM at that point and Vista is more sensetive for that, at least that is my conclution since XP has no problem with stupid high OC och Voltmod even on aircooling of every component and no error yet in Vista and same stupid high bench OC with Voltmod. It it can loop 100% GPU-load 24/7 but still no heatrelated error that this driverthing is for me.
Perhaps you just use poor qualityblock that cant dissapate heat good enought that never sees the benefit that qualityblocks give with cooler RAM and vreg.
Sure my GPU coretemp is 1-3 degs celsius higher(but RAMtemp/vregtemp is cooler) than with just a GPU-block but overall the card is cooler and OC way higher on RAM and keep my RAM and vreg cool enought to not cause the famous error. In my book that is more woth than just slightly cooler core that yoyu cant take benefit over.
Also remember no aircooled ramsink can cool vreg as good as a piece if copper that dissapate the heat to water or any other extermcooling can.
 
I think you need 10 ramsinks and 1 mosfet heatsink to cool the 8800GT... paying $40 for the Swiftech MC8800 SMC Cooling Kit is a bit of a ripoff. Also 4 of the ramsinks will need to be low profile sinks to fit under the MCW60 water inlet/outlets... either that or you can cut down/file down/bend/whatever the swiftech copper heatsinks to fit underneath.

other than that, looks solid if you don't plan on OCing.
 
E.R said:
EK G92 is actually singleslot thats a fact, just like the FC for 8800 GTS/Ultra is singleslot, its use 1.6 slot and you CAN use the slot under and that IS CONFIRMED by EDDIE at EK who made the blocks and knowns it the best, thus singleslotcard and the part that makes this cards 1,6 slot it the screws but they are NOT in the way for use of slot under the PCI-e slot on regular MB:s.
DD-blocks sucks and is just poor build compare to EK, just a ripoff moneywice.
And universalshits sucks to mutch in my book and you need to aircool memories, and when you least want or need is the heatsink falsl off and burn you memories and card, that is just a matter of time when it happens, not if.
OC will bet better to, especially on card that demanding good memory/VRM-cooling like 8800-series not to give the "driver not responing issue" I would never trade space against universality since a FC block aint that expensive today and cools memmorise and VRM good on cards that need that and you will get money back when selling the old block if you trade card, not all but a good share and make a new block not expensive at all.
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NO! The EK G92 is *NOT* single slot. It is ~17mm thick, single slot is 15mm including the PCB board. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=169988 Eddy himself is asking how thin the block would have to be to make it single slot. Sorry, but the EK G92 block is just a tad too thick to be single slot. Now please, if you are going to make such opinionated (and frankly wrong) posts at least run the post through a spell checker.
 
silent-circuit said:
Wrong.
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I don't think it's right or wrong, it depends on how good the airflow is on your ramsinks. If there is poor airflow in the PCI area then the ramsinks are not going to perform well and I think that's what ER is referring to. ;)
 
Erasmus354 said:
NO! The EK G92 is *NOT* single slot. It is ~17mm thick, single slot is 15mm including the PCB board. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=169988 Eddy himself is asking how thin the block would have to be to make it single slot. Sorry, but the EK G92 block is just a tad too thick to be single slot. Now please, if you are going to make such opinionated (and frankly wrong) posts at least run the post through a spell checker.
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YOU ARE wrong, "true" singleslot is 16mm or 15,24mm if you are an ass for the last 7/10mm,
EK G92 is 17mm, and that last 1mm has no effect on the "real" singleslot that EK G92 is so stop beeing an ass over ONE mm that has no real effect over anything, just enjoy the cooloingpower EK offer with teire pure copperblock over poor desing DD and Aquatuning that just like Koolance blocks has part aluminum that is a big no-no in watercooling PC:s.

Last but ot leaat im no american so i dont need "spellchecking",

game14 said:
looks like someone is working for EK ...:rolleyes:
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Are you working for DD? I just perfer nicelooking highquality and highperforming EK-block in front of ugly poor quality but highflow to no use since low heatdisapation DD block that lately are pure ripoff of proven good products. DD G92 is way to mutch like EK G92, and i bet is it just another ripoff just like the "new" DD CPU-block that is a ripoff to.
 
E.R said:
YOU ARE wrong, "true" singleslot is 16mm or 15,24mm if you are an ass for the last 7/10mm,
EK G92 is 17mm, and that last 1mm has no effect on the "real" singleslot that EK G92 is so stop beeing an ass over ONE mm that has no real effect over anything, just enjoy the cooloingpower EK offer with teire pure copperblock over poor desing DD and Aquatuning that just like Koolance blocks has part aluminum that is a big no-no in watercooling PC:s.

Last but ot leaat im no american so i dont need "spellchecking",


Are you working for DD? I just perfer nicelooking highquality and highperforming EK-block in front of ugly poor quality but highflow to no use since low heatdisapation DD block that lately are pure ripoff of proven good products. DD G92 is way to mutch like EK G92, and i bet is it just another ripoff just like the "new" DD CPU-block that is a ripoff to.
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The EK block is a very nice choice, it still is not a single slot design. If you have a card with components on the back side you can run into problems. Also, neither the DangerDen nor the AquaComputer G92 blocks use aluminum in their design. Actually, the only block that uses aluminum is the EK block (for the power regulator sink).

P.S. Look at bold and underlined words...you really do need to use a spell checker. Whether you are from America or not, you are on an English speaking forum. It really undermines your arguments when your posts contain factual inaccuracies, and have the grammar and spelling of a seven year old.
 
Erasmus354 said:
The EK block is a very nice choice, it still is not a single slot design. If you have a card with components on the back side you can run into problems. Also, neither the DangerDen nor the AquaComputer G92 blocks use aluminum in their design. Actually, the only block that uses aluminum is the EK block (for the power regulator sink).

P.S. Look at bold and underlined words...you really do need to use a spell checker. Whether you are from America or not, you are on an English speaking forum. It really undermines your arguments when your posts contain factual inaccuracies, and have the grammar and spelling of a seven year old.
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You miss my point, i meant aluminum in the loop, EK has no aluminium in the loop so you can use destilled water with no danger for corrosion if you want. German companys loves to mix alu and CU in loop.

Who cares what you think about or think about spelling, it it correct, just one or two misstyping, the rest is correct and you are the one that has the misspelling in your english, and once again you miss the target, maby you should read what is written and not asuming to mutch, not missread loop as the block and so on.
 
nope , not working for DD or any other hardware stuff related company .
In my opinion its better to work with universal blocks like the one the OP had listed and get some ram sinks . When you upgrade you can always re use the block and the ram sinks on your new card ... saves some money in long term .
As to the look , you cant argue about taste .
I never regreted getting my mcw60 . It cooled my 6800 gs and now its cooling my 8800gts just fine.
 
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