9800/ 8800GTS sli

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runLoganrun

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When is the 9800 scheduled to be released? I have a single GTS and have wanted to put it in SLI. I'll be able to do that pretty soon, but then read a little about the 9800. I'm still not clear on the performance boost from SLI and am wondering if 2x8800GTS would be in the ballpark of the 9800, or more like a single 8800Ultra? Mine is overclocked to about that speed right now though, it just doesn't have that extra bit of memory. The first releases of the 9800 are bound to be pretty pricey so would def prefer to stick with the GTSsli, is that a worthy investment now, with the pending release?

Thanks,
rlr
 
if you have the 512 ver GTS then I'd do the SLi otherwise I would sit tight for another month or two unless you really really need to upgrade. my 2c
 
SLI will only show benefits at high resolutions. If your not running at least 1600x1200 don't even think about it. If you ARE running high resolutions, especially very high (2500x2000ish) then your going to see good improvements.
 
Kaldskryke said:
Those are the slower g80-based 8800GTS cards. Why they didn't name the new G92 based ones 8900GTS still confuses me.
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It was probably a marketing issue. The 8800 series sold VERY well, so why ruin a good thing?
 
I had two 8800GTS's in SLI- I was not at all satisfied. The boost for most games was negligible and just all-around not worth it (I run at 1600x1200). My framerates barely changed and it didn't let me lop much more in the way of AA on. The problem only got worse when I moved to Vista x64 (but, actually, I like Vista a lot better than XP). Thus, I sold-off my older 8800GTS and have until March 15 to step-up to a new card. I'm eyeing the 9800GTX and 9800GX2- either would likely give me better performance than I was getting (a little wary w/the 9800GX2 though b/c of its use of SLI).
 
def don't want to buy two new 8800 gtx's, don't know what the 9800gx2 will cost, but prob cheaper than that, and it would still be 2 gpu's.... I assume a 9800gx2 would smoke 2 8800gtx in sli, or ultra even.
 
runLoganrun said:
def don't want to buy two new 8800 gtx's, don't know what the 9800gx2 will cost, but prob cheaper than that, and it would still be 2 gpu's.... I assume a 9800gx2 would smoke 2 8800gtx in sli, or ultra even.
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I highly doubt it.

Rumor has it that 9800 GX2 will be two downclocked 8800 GTS 512's, essentially in SLI. I dont think theres even a slight chance the 9800 GX2 will beat 8800 GTX or Ultra in SLI.

Think of it this way...8800 GTX is 575mhz, 128 SPU, 384bit bus and 768 of memory....in SLI
The GX2 will basically be 8800 GTS 512mb...with under 600mhz core, 128 SPU, 256bit bus, 512 memory...in SLI on a single card.

LIkely the same or very close core speeds, same shaders, except the 8800 GTX SLI would have more memory and a higher bit bus, and since dual GPUs really only help at high resolutions where you also need the memory bandwidth...its kinda obvious that for performance 8800 GTX SLI would be the way to go.

This is of course taking price and power consumption out of the equation, and strictly a pure performance comparison. A GX2 is supposedly going to cost the same as the current 8800 GTX, and again this is all according to the latest rumors ive read, and is in no way fact or set in stone.
 
nissanztt90 said:
I highly doubt it.

Rumor has it that 9800 GX2 will be two downclocked 8800 GTS 512's, essentially in SLI. I dont think theres even a slight chance the 9800 GX2 will beat 8800 GTX or Ultra in SLI.

Think of it this way...8800 GTX is 575mhz, 128 SPU, 384bit bus and 768 of memory....in SLI
The GX2 will basically be 8800 GTS 512mb...with under 600mhz core, 128 SPU, 256bit bus, 512 memory...in SLI on a single card.

LIkely the same or very close core speeds, same shaders, except the 8800 GTX SLI would have more memory and a higher bit bus, and since dual GPUs really only help at high resolutions where you also need the memory bandwidth...its kinda obvious that for performance 8800 GTX SLI would be the way to go.

This is of course taking price and power consumption out of the equation, and strictly a pure performance comparison. A GX2 is supposedly going to cost the same as the current 8800 GTX, and again this is all according to the latest rumors ive read, and is in no way fact or set in stone.
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But probably marked at a considerably lower price, as it would be priced to go against the 3870X2, at 450 MSRP, unless etailers pull another 8800 GT price hike fiasco, look to see these for $400-450, which would outperform (quite easily) an 8800 GTX/Ultra (and look at those prices)

Just my thoughts though, although a lot of these "X2" series cards suck in real world performance, good if you're like me and tend to just get a single half decent card instead of SLI-ing two.

Hell, if it's out in 3 months I plan on stepping up.
 
Gazoo said:
But probably marked at a considerably lower price, as it would be priced to go against the 3870X2, at 450 MSRP, unless etailers pull another 8800 GT price hike fiasco, look to see these for $400-450, which would outperform (quite easily) an 8800 GTX/Ultra (and look at those prices)

Just my thoughts though, although a lot of these "X2" series cards suck in real world performance, good if you're like me and tend to just get a single half decent card instead of SLI-ing two.

Hell, if it's out in 3 months I plan on stepping up.
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Yes, i thought current GTX's were around 450 with rebates. which is why i said they would be inline with current GTX's. I would definitely expect G80 to go EOL very soon though.
 
Gazoo said:
Hell, if it's out in 3 months I plan on stepping up.
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Yeah, if it fits in my case, I'll likely be doing the same (will need to come before March 15 though, which it likely will). Haven't decided between the 9800GX2 or 9800GTX yet (mostly b/c we really don't know very much at all about the 9800GTX). My major concern, besides the SLI operating nature of the 9800GX2, is the 256-bit bus. However, the recent news bit about better compression and the fact that I'm on the edge in terms of a 256-bit bus impacting me to begin with (I run at 1600x1200) will likely push me towards the 9800GX2 (once again, as long as it fits in my case- I'm assuming this thing won't be any longer than an 8800GTX) since that should, overall, be the better of the two cards. We'll see though.
 
nissanztt90 said:
I highly doubt it.

LIkely the same or very close core speeds, same shaders, except the 8800 GTX SLI would have more memory and a higher bit bus, and since dual GPUs really only help at high resolutions where you also need the memory bandwidth...its kinda obvious that for performance 8800 GTX SLI would be the way to go.
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I've read this a few times lately, and I've never had an sli setup, but I always thought it helped overall performance, like for example at the same resolution with an extra card I would get faster frame rates, but is that not accurate? It's only helpful when you want higher resolutions?

thx,
rlr
 
runLoganrun said:
I've read this a few times lately, and I've never had an sli setup, but I always thought it helped overall performance, like for example at the same resolution with an extra card I would get faster frame rates, but is that not accurate? It's only helpful when you want higher resolutions?

thx,
rlr
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Yeah thats pretty much the case. I tried it at 1680x1050 with SLIed 8800 GT's, and i sold both and now have a single 8800 GTS. There was virtually no increase...maybe 10% for me for the most part.
 
nissanztt90 said:
Yeah thats pretty much the case. I tried it at 1680x1050 with SLIed 8800 GT's, and i sold both and now have a single 8800 GTS. There was virtually no increase...maybe 10% for me for the most part.
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Yeah- I had gotten two 8800GTS 640mb's in SLI (got the one in May and got the other in December, the one I'm still using). I saw very little in the way of a performance increase in anything (yes, I had SLI on, yes it was functioning, etc....)- could not even get CoH to max DX10 settings at 1600x1200 w/no AA (and CoH generally needs at least some AA). I, however, cannot entirely pin my problems on SLI- my mobo is one of the original SLI-enabled mobos, and drops to two PCI-E 8x slots when running SLI. I also only have DDR RAM. Those two factors may make a two-slot SLI solution a killer for me. Nevertheless, I'll be watching the 9800GX2 and looking to see what kind of performance it puts out for 1600x1200 (I just got this monitor- quite a sweet monitor, imo, plus I'm somewhat space limited as far as monitor size goes, and it's a great upgrade from my old 17" 1280x1024). However, because of my issues w/SLI, I'm really looking more towards the 9800GTX.
 
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