MSI P6N SLI-FI / Platinum (650i) Thread

Hey everyone and thanks for a awesome thread about the MB, (the reason I registered here btw)
My MSI P6N Platinum wont boot as it sohuld :/

Max clock ive done is 3.3ghz with my E6850 =/. The problem is that when i change FSB over 380+(1520 bus speed) or change the NB voltage to 1.3 and reboot ,the fan on the graphic card goes to max and nothing happend. After some secs the screen turns off and i have to reset CMOS. Anyone else got this annoying problem?
 
I like this board more and more despite it's fsb holes/straps weirdness.
I got 4 x 1GB Team Elite 800 CL5.
Runs stable at 667MHz 4-4-4-11 CR1 (yes CR1) 2.2v
Also 800MHz 5-5-5-14 CR1 2.25v
And yes, 4 sticks of memory.
I got my hands on the latest 2.53 beta bios. I think it's made for Platinum cause it has those ESata options in bios but I disabled them and no problem on SLI-FI.
 
I just updated my BIOS on my P6N Platinum from v1.3 to v1.5 and up the o/c:

Q6600 G0 @ 3.33ghz

FSB: 1480
Mem: 740 (4-4-4-12)
Multi: x9

CPU Volt: +0.1000
Mem Volt: 2.1v
NB Volt: 1.45
SB Volt: 1.55
FSB Volt: 16%

The temps managed to rise about 2-3c.
 
2k3eblade I have the same CPU and fsb just that is stable on lower vcore.

1480 fsb
814 mem (try this cause it improves about 10% on the bandwitdh) it's actually 11:10 perfect ratio
+0.500 on cpu
1.45 NB
1.60SB
+16% FSB volt

PS: I think I'm going to upgrade to P35 neo fr next week, I feel like the cpu and memory is up to more but motherboard kinda strangles it.
 
cthulhuiscool said:
how can I flash the bios in xp 64 bit?
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Same as any other os . I have two systems running XP x64 (one with the SLI-FI) and flashing is no problem . I use a floppy drive .

What in perticular is the problem you are having with flashing in x64 ?



*To anyone .... Btw , how is the SLI-FI 2.4 bios doing on oc'ing ? Ive read its not that great . Iam still using the beta 2.2 without any problems , but thinking of flashing to 2.4 to see if I can grab some more speed out of my chip .
 
is there something i need to disable to get the fsb frequencies? they're grayed out and i can't get my cursor up to them.
 
tty said:
2k3eblade I have the same CPU and fsb just that is stable on lower vcore.

1480 fsb
814 mem (try this cause it improves about 10% on the bandwitdh) it's actually 11:10 perfect ratio
+0.500 on cpu
1.45 NB
1.60SB
+16% FSB volt

PS: I think I'm going to upgrade to P35 neo fr next week, I feel like the cpu and memory is up to more but motherboard kinda strangles it.
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This mobo is almost always the weakest link when using decent ram and a high power chip. My Q6600 was completely bottlenecked by this board. I don't know exactly about the P35, but I have the X38 in the same family and it can easily hit 4ghz according to people that have more radiators than me lol. I'd just be careful of that "cooling contraption" they put on the neo (I think I'm thinking of the right one).
 
The board (Fi version) clocks just fine........:D Its all about how well the CPU clocks, I'm still doing fine with my Fi board and little ole CPU................:eek:
 
roflcopter90 said:
will the ocz platinum rev. 2 boot on the mobo?
or will i have to change voltages before installing them?
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Yes, on my Platinum they booted up no problem at 1.9V 5-5-5-15. Just change the timings in BIOS.

Man, its been a while. Glad to see the thread still alive - its helped me immensely. Is Spanki still around?

I've got v1.2 BIOS and just picked up another 2GB RAM to make it 4 sticks of OCZ Platinum Rev 2. Will install tonight. Hope I don't have that 4GB slow-down thing. Not real confident flashing BIOS yet.
 
thanks edge...
i need some help, i have a p6n sli-fi v2.4 bios and started doing some OCing on my 6400.
i got it up to 3 ghz with 1.248v according to cpu-z. i want to get it to 3.2 ghz so i can
run my ram at its full 800 mhz. it doesnt boot at 3.2 so idk wat to do to get it stable...
i havent touched any voltages...should i raise the vcore a little?

thx in advance.

EDIT: ok i ran into a few problems @3ghz...it shut down on me while running both cores @100% w/ TAT.
i lowered the speed back down to 2.7ghz(337.5x8) and im gonna run prime95 overnight tonight. any ideas why it shut down?
also...the voltage gets lower wen its under load...is that normal??
 
First thing to try is to up your vcore a step at a time till stable. You may also wantt to bump your NB voltage up a notch as well, my NB required 1.325 to run stable at 400 (1600 quad pumped) FSB.

Vdroop is 100% normal under load, nothing to worry about.
 
do i up the vcore with the cpu voltage setting or fsb vtt...
how hot will the northbridge get if i increase the voltage a little?...im using stock heatsink
 
As long as you have good air flow in your case, the NB cooler should be able to handle a small increase in voltage.

You invrease the vcore with the CPU voltage section.
 
ok heres wat happened...
it was able to POST at cpu voltage .1 and northbridge voltage 1.325
but it wouldnt get to windows loading screen. :confused: what should i do now?

EDIT: ok i tried a few more things...i upped the northbridge to 1.35 and also tried lowering the multi.
i went as high as .15 on cpu voltage and it still didnt work...should i up the vcore more (idk safe range for it)
could it just be a fsb hole at 400?
 
I know it's off topic but I just got the P35 neo2-FR.
It's much better than p6n sli-fi for quad chips, I can do 450fsb with my q6600 with 1.4v on NB that only gets to about 35C. Heatpipe cooling is also nice.

Update:
I'm running 470MHz FSB on my Q6600 now 1.45v NB, it's all good, seems like this is the mobo to go if you run quad core.

ta
 
usama_ah said:
However, my RAM is running at 400 Mhz (the '800' in DDR2-800 is the effective speed, because DDR2 RAM runs like that in dual channel mode I guess).

To make things more confusing, when you're looking at the BIOS, the bus speed shown in the BIOS is '4x' the "actual" bus speed. Thus since my processor has a 200Mhz bus, in the BIOS that shows up as 800Mhz.

Similarly, the RAM speed shown in the BIOS (at least for me) is 2x the actual RAM speed. So when my RAM is at 400Mhz, the BIOS shows 800Mhz.
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The problem with the bios is, that it shows different value's. It have nothing to do with DDR2 specificly and/or how dualchannel works, that's a whole different story.
It all comes down to SDR (singe data rate), DDR (double data rate) and QDR (quad(pumped) data rate).

The memory speed shown in the bios = the effective speed
The bus speed shown in the bios = the actual speed

Most Intel processors run on a QDR bus, meaning that the bus can transport 4 bits in one clockpulse. Double Data Rate transports 2 bits each clockpulse and SDR only transports one bit each clockpulse. Instead of showing all numbers solely with actual or effective numbers, the mainboard manufactures choosed a mixed bag of it. That's what making things confusing

1200mhz for the bus speed = effective speed(=QDR number) (actual speed = 300mhz)
400mhz for the memory = actual speed (effecive speed = 800mhz=DDR number)

Easier it would be when all numbers are actual:

bus=266mhz (x4=1066)
ram=267mhz (x2=533)

or all effective

bus=1333mhz (bus/4 = 333mhz)
ram=667mhz (ram/2 = 333mhz)

Unfortunatly; this is not the case :(
 
anybody w/ a p6n sli-fi help plz :D
im wondering how this board fits in an antec 900 case
and a hsf that fits on the board without any modding?\

EDIT: also, a NB fan that fits on it too
 
Hi guys, i just joined the MSI P6N 650i Platinum family :D

just got it up and running last night running stable (not crazy oc'd for more stability, and i am using my old 400W PSU).

I have an Antec 900 case as well, need some spare time to mod it to hide some wires and make it look good :) right now im still using my old unknown brand case lol.

as I have no access to my PC right now (cuz im at work lol), I will post up my oc #s in bios later tonight.

I have Q6600 @ 3.1Ghz, 2x1GB Corsair rams, eVGA 8800GTS 680MB (just for now, I am one of the MSI 8800GT Dell non-deal victim too :mad:)

using Zalman CNPS9700 + Artic Silver 5, VGA stock HSF

3DMark06 score 12942.
 
Hybrid_CL9 said:
I have Q6600 @ 3.1Ghz, 2x1GB Corsair rams, eVGA 8800GTS 680MB (just for now, I am one of the MSI 8800GT Dell non-deal victim too :mad:)
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Wait hold the phone, I didn't realize it was such a big thing. My order has been delayed as well, with the off chance that they might just cancel and refund the money. Is there anything we can do about this? I was thinking of contacting the Dell Advocate e-mail (per Consumerist.com) or something if they don't deliver on their new promised date (or worse, at all).

How many others have been affected by this?
 
usama_ah said:
Wait hold the phone, I didn't realize it was such a big thing. My order has been delayed as well, with the off chance that they might just cancel and refund the money. Is there anything we can do about this? I was thinking of contacting the Dell Advocate e-mail (per Consumerist.com) or something if they don't deliver on their new promised date (or worse, at all).

How many others have been affected by this?
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you can start reading the complaints from HERE

but u can just skip them all and go to the last page since every post is talking about how suck Dell is.
 
Thanks hybrid. It sucks that this has happened, but I'm also kind of glad to find out it wasn't just me.

If Dell can't deliver (because the manufac. can't) then they should either give us a raincheck on the item for a later purchase or give us a discount or some small credit to be used on something else (ideally another card).

Well that was off topic to this forum. Sorry, okay just wanted to say thanks.
 
roflcopter90 said:
anybody w/ a p6n sli-fi help plz :D
im wondering how this board fits in an antec 900 case
and a hsf that fits on the board without any modding?\

EDIT: also, a NB fan that fits on it too
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I am running mine in an Antec 900 with a Tuniq Tower 120 without any problems. I have one of my harddrive cages installed in the 2nd-4th 5.25" bays so that it creates a direct airflow through the heatsink and out the rear 120mm fan. I am using a modified 50mm everrest fan that is undervolted to 9V. It is much quieter then the stock 40mm hairdryer.
 
thx...i think im gonna get a 900...
few more questions about the cpu cooler tho...
could u use a HSF with a backplate from a different one?
i was thinking about the zalman 9500 or arctic freezer 7 how are these?
 
Bit of info post here.

Upgraded this morning from P6N SLI-FI to Platinum, didn't have to reinstall windows,picked my my Raptor SATA raid array, only thing I had to install was the ESata port driver.

WEEEEEWWWWWT, hehe, now I don't gotta spend 5 hrs gettin all me proggies back in place :).
 
hey guys,
i cant seem to get my e6400 stable at 3.0ghz. ive read that most of them can easily
reach 3ghz + w/ default voltage and stock cooling.
@3ghz it can boot to windows but after a little while of gaming (~10-20 mins) it freezes.
@3.2ghz it doesnt even boot. im running at 2.8ghz stable right now. any ideas?
 
roflcopter90 said:
thx...i think im gonna get a 900...
few more questions about the cpu cooler tho...
could u use a HSF with a backplate from a different one?
i was thinking about the zalman 9500 or arctic freezer 7 how are these?
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I'm not sure what you're getting at regarding the HSF with a different backplate. Are you attempting to use, for example, a Zalman HSF with a Tuniq backplate? As far as the HSF goes, if you have the extra money, I'd recommend going with the Tuniq Tower over any other. It has top teir cooling for a decent price and uses a secure mounting bracket. If you're on a budget, I'd recommend the AC Freezer 7. I just don't like the push-pin locking design myself. I have used a TT blue orb 2, CoolerMaster Eclipse, TT Big Typhoon VX, and the Tuni Tower 120. Any other the blue orb 2 will work for moderate o/c'ing with a dual core, but if you are planning on going with a quad anytime I'd recommend the TT Big Typhoon or the TT 120.
 
roflcopter90 said:
hey guys,
i cant seem to get my e6400 stable at 3.0ghz. ive read that most of them can easily
reach 3ghz + w/ default voltage and stock cooling.
@3ghz it can boot to windows but after a little while of gaming (~10-20 mins) it freezes.
@3.2ghz it doesnt even boot. im running at 2.8ghz stable right now. any ideas?
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Have you tested your o/c with Prime95 for at least 8-24 hours? What is your voltage setting on your NB? I had to run mine at 1.45V even for a modest o/c with my first C2D. I had to move to 1.5V on the NB, along with 1.7V on the SB when I went to a quad.
 
i havent tested with prime95 but it can run a game for 8-10 hrs straight.
i havent gone that high on north bridge because im still using the stock cooling. the most i went was 1.325v

about the fan...
im not planning on getting a quad and the tuniq tower looks HUGE.
how does it fit in ur case? and does the backplate or heatsink interfere with anything on the board?
 
roflcopter90 said:
i havent tested with prime95 but it can run a game for 8-10 hrs straight.
i havent gone that high on north bridge because im still using the stock cooling. the most i went was 1.325v

about the fan...
im not planning on getting a quad and the tuniq tower looks HUGE.
how does it fit in ur case? and does the backplate or heatsink interfere with anything on the board?
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I ran my board with the stock heatpipe @ 1.45V for 4-5 months of 24/7 usage with the cpu loaded @ 100% using F@H without any heat trouble. I only added a fan when I went to 1.5V. The Tuniq fits in my Antec 900 just fine, however I cannot use the side mounted 120mm fan without modding the window a little bit. It is on my to do list but I haven't gotten around to it as of yet. I really liked the CoolerMaster Eclipse, it worked wonderfully. If I remember correctly my E400@ 3.4Ghz @ 1.45V never broke low 50's under load with Prime95. It cools the power mosfets which is also a plus. It's just not designed to cool a quad without running the fan on high, which is too noisy for my tastes.
 
thanks for ur help :D.
im gonna go with the antec 900 and tuniq tower.
i have the sli-fi board, not the platinum so do you think the stock heatsink on it is good enough cooling @ 1.4+ v?

EDIT: another question about the tuniq tower...i have corsair dhx ram with the big heatsinks...do u think it will interfere with the tuniq tower?
 
Hello from a noobie to this forum.

I have read much of what is in this forum on this motherboard and overclocking. My own experience about what works is listed below. I found that I could run faster, and with lower voltages, with stability... but accuracy suffered.

I ran prime95 on my T61 laptop for over 24 hours with no failures as a baseline... I multitasked on it while prime was running. CPU temps spiked to 80C!!, but prime95 never reported failures on this system. My accuracy target goal was established.

On my new desktop system, If I attempted to overclock higher then what I have below, accuracy suffered. I could run for 6 hours or so before a rounding failure would creep in, or if using the system when prime was running I'd see rounding errors. Temps spiked at 56C but typically ran at 48C-50C during the tests.

A note about spread spectrum settings. I found that only the CPU needed to be disabled. If I disabled the other settings I picked up stray noise in my 5.8 GHz phone and my flat panel display. Both are within 4 feet of the case.

Anyway here are my settings that resulted in an accurate and stable system using the components listed below.

I am open to all input and will try most any suggestion. I am also available to answer questions on my setup. Thanks in advance for advice and counsel.

I am still having one problem. The system sometimes loses BIOS settings. I get a checksum error on bootup. I've replaced the battery twice (both checked out good) and reflashed the BIOS this evening. Hoping the reflash fixed the problem.

Anyone else heard of or is having this problem? I'd appreciate any input on possible fixes.


P6N SLI Platinum BIOS Settings BIOS v1.5

Settings
CPU Features​
C1E..............................................Disabled (Hidden - Press F4 to access)
Executive Bit Support..................Disabled
Set Limit CPUID Maxval to 3........Disabled
​
Cell Menu​
HPET............................................Disabled
DOT..............................................Disabled
EIST..............................................Disabled
System Clock Mode......................Linked
FSB Clock....................................1333
Adjust CPU Ratio..........................9
Spread Spectrum
CPU....................................Disabled
All others............................Leave at default​
Advance Dram Config...................Manual 4 4 4 12 Auto Auto Auto Auto Auto 2T​

Voltages
CPU...............................................+ .125 Volts
Memory.........................................2.2 Volts
NB.................................................1.5
SB.................................................1.7
FSB...............................................20%​

Temps
CPU.......................Idle 30C Prime95 Stress 56C
System..................Idle 27C Prime95 Stress 46C​

OverClocked 25%
CPU Freq 3.0 GHz FSB 1333 Memory Dram 800 ( 5/6 ratio ) 4-4-4-12

MB.................MSI P6N SLI Platinum LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel
Case..............CoolerMaster Centurion 5 - CAC-T05
CPU...............Q6600 GO 2.4GHz
CPU Cooler....Thermalright Ultra-120A CPU Cooler
Memory..........Patriot PCS-6400 2GB (2x1GB) Kit
Video.............PNY nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 512MB
HD..................Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 SATA 3.0Gb/s
Power............OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W PSU
 
Hey guys.... former oc'er been out of the loop for a while. a few things....

-first my specs are the MSI board obviously, 4Gb G.Skill (6400) ram,Intel e6850 and XFX geforce 8800gt.

i am unsure where to start boosting my settings. Does anyone else have a similar config, that can share their BIOS settings?

also, what are the good over clocking/monitoring software? the one that came with my board wont run after install. i would also like something to oc my vid card.

have any of you had problems with the integrated nic? mine would run for an hour, then shut down, then the next day it would work, then shut down etc.... i check the sleep mode and pwr settings, so that wasnt the issue. i ended up getting a netgear anyway, so its not a huge deal.

sorry about the n00bis questions, ive been out of the loop since the pc133 days when i was king. ;)
 
tonycooper said:
Hello from a noobie to this forum.

I have read much of what is in this forum on this motherboard and overclocking. My own experience about what works is listed below. I found that I could run faster, and with lower voltages, with stability... but accuracy suffered.

I ran prime95 on my T61 laptop for over 24 hours with no failures as a baseline... I multitasked on it while prime was running. CPU temps spiked to 80C!!, but prime95 never reported failures on this system. My accuracy target goal was established.

On my new desktop system, If I attempted to overclock higher then what I have below, accuracy suffered. I could run for 6 hours or so before a rounding failure would creep in, or if using the system when prime was running I'd see rounding errors. Temps spiked at 56C but typically ran at 48C-50C during the tests.

A note about spread spectrum settings. I found that only the CPU needed to be disabled. If I disabled the other settings I picked up stray noise in my 5.8 GHz phone and my flat panel display. Both are within 4 feet of the case.

Anyway here are my settings that resulted in an accurate and stable system using the components listed below.

I am open to all input and will try most any suggestion. I am also available to answer questions on my setup. Thanks in advance for advice and counsel.

I am still having one problem. The system sometimes loses BIOS settings. I get a checksum error on bootup. I've replaced the battery twice (both checked out good) and reflashed the BIOS this evening. Hoping the reflash fixed the problem.

Anyone else heard of or is having this problem? I'd appreciate any input on possible fixes.


P6N SLI Platinum BIOS Settings BIOS v1.5

Settings
CPU Features​
C1E..............................................Disabled (Hidden - Press F4 to access)
Executive Bit Support..................Disabled
Set Limit CPUID Maxval to 3........Disabled
​
Cell Menu​
HPET............................................Disabled
DOT..............................................Disabled
EIST..............................................Disabled
System Clock Mode......................Linked
FSB Clock....................................1333
Adjust CPU Ratio..........................9
Spread Spectrum
CPU....................................Disabled
All others............................Leave at default​
Advance Dram Config...................Manual 4 4 4 12 Auto Auto Auto Auto Auto 2T​

Voltages
CPU...............................................+ .125 Volts
Memory.........................................2.2 Volts
NB.................................................1.5
SB.................................................1.7
FSB...............................................20%​

Temps
CPU.......................Idle 30C Prime95 Stress 56C
System..................Idle 27C Prime95 Stress 46C​

OverClocked 25%
CPU Freq 3.0 GHz FSB 1333 Memory Dram 800 ( 5/6 ratio ) 4-4-4-12

MB.................MSI P6N SLI Platinum LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel
Case..............CoolerMaster Centurion 5 - CAC-T05
CPU...............Q6600 GO 2.4GHz
CPU Cooler....Thermalright Ultra-120A CPU Cooler
Memory..........Patriot PCS-6400 2GB (2x1GB) Kit
Video.............PNY nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 512MB
HD..................Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 SATA 3.0Gb/s
Power............OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W PSU
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Wow! Those are some heavy voltages you are running there. I have the same CPU and memory that you do and I think you will find that the ram is your trouble with losing your BIOS settings. I am runnning at 3.33 (1480 x 9) ram at 740mhz. I think you need to loosen your timings and bump the ram voltage to 2.30. I have the CPU voltage to .1125 and the fsb VTT at 12%. I sure hope you are running some kind of fan on your SB at that voltage. Not sure if that will help you, but I am going to go out and buy some higher end ram and will report back my findings. I have not found Prime95 to be a very good test bed for the quad core cpu's, it only loads one or two cores. Give Sandra or some other benchmark that will load all your cpu's and see how it performs.
 
pfefferpezz said:
Wow! Those are some heavy voltages you are running there. I have the same CPU and memory that you do and I think you will find that the ram is your trouble with losing your BIOS settings. I am runnning at 3.33 (1480 x 9) ram at 740mhz. I think you need to loosen your timings and bump the ram voltage to 2.30. I have the CPU voltage to .1125 and the fsb VTT at 12%. I sure hope you are running some kind of fan on your SB at that voltage. Not sure if that will help you, but I am going to go out and buy some higher end ram and will report back my findings. I have not found Prime95 to be a very good test bed for the quad core cpu's, it only loads one or two cores. Give Sandra or some other benchmark that will load all your cpu's and see how it performs.
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Thanks for the reply

Did you experience the BIOS reset issue?

I have the BIOS failure at stock Q6600 2.4GHz board settings with memory voltage at 1.9V. I'll try raising the memory voltage, but it is spec'ed at 4-4-4-12 @2.2V.

MSI Support thinks I may have a short on the board to the case. I just pulled the board and covered the back case plane with 2" wide electrical tape.

Prime95 Version 25.5 exercises all processors. See my desktop image below for validation. SpeedFan and Core Temp both showall 4 CPUs at 100% and temps rising under load.

I have the NB fan in place and temps are lower then stock voltage without the fan.

I do appreciate your input and will try your suggestions.

SysTest.jpg
 
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