LG L246W

bootstrap said:
I notice this too, and it's one of the few complaints I have with this monitor (although I don't think my delay is 10 seconds, maybe 5 at the most). I have a Dell 1905fp next to it and it comes on a good 3 seconds earlier. The LG is so slow that I when I turn on my computer the screens giving me the opportunity to go into the BIOS or the RAID menu are already gone before the monitor turns on. It's not a huge problem for me, since I have a second monitor anyway, but it is rather annoying and it's something to be aware of if you're planning on building a new system and you don't have another monitor handy.

I'll also second that musicinmybrain has it right: switching DVI cables will not improve picture sharpness or color quality. I really don't mean to be rude to conghelach, because the rest of his impressions of this monitor are spot on with mine, but frankly I don't believe for a second that an aftermarket cable made any perceptible difference. Sorry, but this sounds like a case of the placebo effect to me. By the way, the DVI cable he bought has more pins then the one that came with the monitor because it is a dual-link cable -- since this monitor only has a maximum resolution of WUXGA, which is within the bandwidth carried by single-link DVI, the extra pins are not utilized at all, as per the DVI spec. This isn't to say you can't use a dual-link cable with this monitor, but it's not necessary and won't give any advantage to a single-link cable.

I will agree that the cables that came with the monitor are surprisingly thin, and I can understand why you might want to buy a thicker cable if you're afraid that your cable might become damaged. But believe me, if this happens, you'll see major distortion on the screen or lose the signal altogether -- you will certainly not get minor deviations in color or sharpness as you would with a lower quality VGA cable.
Click to expand...

Monitors never come with high quality cables, better cables reduce interference and signal noise ( without getting into laborious detail that you can research on your own)
I know only what my eyes see and that is a better picture period. I am very sensitive to subtle differences in picture. Not everyone sees the same that much is certain, some people do not notice the flicker of a CRT monitor at 75hz or more, I do but that doesnt mean that others necessarily will. All I can say is go out and get a high quality cable and see for yourself??
One thing is certain, like the rest of you I am an LCD fretter. I am happy with my purchase and it has exceeded my expectations nicely. In the end no one is going to enjoy any lcd if they are on some endless scientific quest for perfection. I for one am happy to be done with the fretting and now enjoying my LG panel.

AS FOR INPUT LAG, another poster asked about, I noticed in when testing some other brands like the samsung 244T and the acer 24 inch models. Others have tested the 24 inch panels and found the LG to have the least input lag of the bunch.

AS FOR WAKING: I have had no problems whatsoever, my resolution does not change and it only takes a second or two longer than my 19 inch lcd panel took to wake. I suspect others having problems due to other hardware issues or perhaps there has been a firmware update in the monitor? I cannot say for certain except that I dont have this problem which others have reported.
I turn on the monitor BEFORE I turn on the computer, I have had no problems seeing the bios screen at all. When sleeping and I wake the computer an LG logo screen appears, then gone then the monitor wakes as Bootstrap has said, a few seconds longer than a 19 inch panel maybe five seconds instead of three.

I am using an EVGA 8800GTS video card and do not have my hard drive set to sleep. Perhaps a user who is also setting the hard drive to power down would experience a longer delay???
 
conghelach said:
Monitors never come with high quality cables, better cables reduce interference and signal noise ( without getting into laborious detail that you can research on your own)
I know only what my eyes see and that is a better picture period. I am very sensitive to subtle differences in picture. Not everyone sees the same that much is certain, some people do not notice the flicker of a CRT monitor at 75hz or more, I do but that doesnt mean that others necessarily will. All I can say is go out and get a high quality cable and see for yourself??
One thing is certain, like the rest of you I am an LCD fretter. I am happy with my purchase and it has exceeded my expectations nicely. In the end no one is going to enjoy any lcd if they are on some endless scientific quest for perfection. I for one am happy to be done with the fretting and now enjoying my LG panel.

AS FOR INPUT LAG, another poster asked about, I noticed in when testing some other brands like the samsung 244T and the acer 24 inch models. Others have tested the 24 inch panels and found the LG to have the least input lag of the bunch.

AS FOR WAKING: I have had no problems whatsoever, my resolution does not change and it only takes a second or two longer than my 19 inch lcd panel took to wake. I suspect others having problems due to other hardware issues or perhaps there has been a firmware update in the monitor? I cannot say for certain except that I dont have this problem which others have reported.
I turn on the monitor BEFORE I turn on the computer, I have had no problems seeing the bios screen at all. When sleeping and I wake the computer an LG logo screen appears, then gone then the monitor wakes as Bootstrap has said, a few seconds longer than a 19 inch panel maybe five seconds instead of three.

I am using an EVGA 8800GTS video card and do not have my hard drive set to sleep. Perhaps a user who is also setting the hard drive to power down would experience a longer delay???
Click to expand...
i dont really understand how a better cable can help the image quality...

dvi and hdmi are digital... so either you have the signal or you dont... there is no "half" signal or reduced quality signal...

which part of digital didnt i understand?
 
conghelach said:
Monitors never come with high quality cables, better cables reduce interference and signal noise ( without getting into laborious detail that you can research on your own)
Click to expand...
Perhaps you should read up on the difference between analog and digital signals. You're absolutely correct that better cables will reduce noise. In an analog signal (e.g. VGA), the colors are encoded by the voltage in a continuous manner, so a slight shift in voltage will make slight variations in color. But in a digital signal, like DVI or HDMI, these slight changes in voltage have absolutely NO perceivable effect, because the colors aren't encoded as continuous changes in voltage, but rather as a sequence of discrete changes in voltage (either on or off). The change in voltage between the "on" and the "off" state is much greater than the signal interference -- this way, the interference is effectively ignored, because the actual voltage level doesn't matter, only whether the voltage is low (off) or high (on). If the noise level were SO high that bits were actually flipped, then you'd have problems, but they wouldn't be subtle changes in color like you're describing, because nothing is being continuously varied -- instead, you'd get colors being completely scrambled or you'd lose the signal altogether.

Again, I'm not trying to be rude nor to insult your intelligence. What you've posted is a common misconception that people have about digital signals. The cable companies love for people to think this because it's the only way they can justify charging a ridiculous amount of money for a product that has provably no improvement in picture quality.

I know only what my eyes see and that is a better picture period. I am very sensitive to subtle differences in picture. Not everyone sees the same that much is certain, some people do not notice the flicker of a CRT monitor at 75hz or more, I do but that doesnt mean that others necessarily will. All I can say is go out and get a high quality cable and see for yourself??
Click to expand...
There's really nothing I can say that will convince you that you're not actually seeing a better picture due to the cable if you want to believe it. Of course, it's always possible to make one cable look worse than the other by not properly calibrating the monitor before switching them. But again, this sounds like a placebo effect to me -- you're "seeing" a better picture because you convinced yourself ahead of time that the one cable is better than the other. I've used digital monitors and DVI cables for years, both high and low quality, and it simply doesn't make a difference (and yes, my eyesight is quite good, I'm not missing out on subtle differences that others can see -- they simply don't exist). I'd suggest you switch back to the other cable, calibrate the monitor properly, and use it for a while.

In any case, this will be my last post on this in this thread, as we're starting to veer off topic. If you'd like to discuss the "laborious details" further, we could start another thread. :)

One thing is certain, like the rest of you I am an LCD fretter. I am happy with my purchase and it has exceeded my expectations nicely. In the end no one is going to enjoy any lcd if they are on some endless scientific quest for perfection. I for one am happy to be done with the fretting and now enjoying my LG panel.
Click to expand...
I agree with this completely. I waited for months for the right LCD and I have no regrets with the LG either. Congrats on your purchase! :)
 
Tests have been done in the audio world that have shown that spending more money on something will make you like the sound more, while the person who does not know the prices of the 2 "somethings" will not hear a difference. It could also be true for digital video cables.

that being said, i need a longer one foor my monitor so i have to buy something anyways.
 
bootstrap said:
Perhaps you should read up on the difference between analog and digital signals. You're absolutely correct that better cables will reduce noise. In an analog signal (e.g. VGA), the colors are encoded by the voltage in a continuous manner, so a slight shift in voltage will make slight variations in color. But in a digital signal, like DVI or HDMI, these slight changes in voltage have absolutely NO perceivable effect, because the colors aren't encoded as continuous changes in voltage, but rather as a sequence of discrete changes in voltage (either on or off). The change in voltage between the "on" and the "off" state is much greater than the signal interference -- this way, the interference is effectively ignored, because the actual voltage level doesn't matter, only whether the voltage is low (off) or high (on). If the noise level were SO high that bits were actually flipped, then you'd have problems, but they wouldn't be subtle changes in color like you're describing, because nothing is being continuously varied -- instead, you'd get colors being completely scrambled or you'd lose the signal altogether.

Again, I'm not trying to be rude nor to insult your intelligence. What you've posted is a common misconception that people have about digital signals. The cable companies love for people to think this because it's the only way they can justify charging a ridiculous amount of money for a product that has provably no improvement in picture quality.


There's really nothing I can say that will convince you that you're not actually seeing a better picture due to the cable if you want to believe it. Of course, it's always possible to make one cable look worse than the other by not properly calibrating the monitor before switching them. But again, this sounds like a placebo effect to me -- you're "seeing" a better picture because you convinced yourself ahead of time that the one cable is better than the other. I've used digital monitors and DVI cables for years, both high and low quality, and it simply doesn't make a difference (and yes, my eyesight is quite good, I'm not missing out on subtle differences that others can see -- they simply don't exist). I'd suggest you switch back to the other cable, calibrate the monitor properly, and use it for a while.

In any case, this will be my last post on this in this thread, as we're starting to veer off topic. If you'd like to discuss the "laborious details" further, we could start another thread. :)


I agree with this completely. I waited for months for the right LCD and I have no regrets with the LG either. Congrats on your purchase! :)
Click to expand...



AHEM AHEM oh contraire mon frere. Subtle differences do exist and they begin with your eyes, their color and a host of other items which I shall no elaborate upon in this venue. I know what you are trying to say about placebo effect, often I would replace the word placebo with ignorance. In any case, I am not suffering from a placebo effect nor any two dimensional logic. I have had several dvi cables, none with any improvement upon the others, therefore there cannot be any improvement, therefore those who say there are improvements are illogical and suffering from a placebo. It could be nothing more than my having received a defective cable with the monitor I don't know the reason for certain but I don know for certain the display looks better with the aftermarket cable I purchased.

I am reporting my experiences, with my eyeballs, your experiences and your eyeballs will vary.

In any case I am not going to be writing an essay or a scientific paper on these subjects and you are quite correct we are getting off topic as is often the case with these types of forums especially where LCD panels are concerned I've seen the dilemma many times in laptop forums as well and it will continue to be a hotly debated topic no doubt.

If you care to share your insights on calibrating, settings you are using and resolution that you use I would be most interested in that. Feel free to email me, I am off to Best Buy....those of you who just bought the LG246 and are in your 30 day window will be pleased to know that the price has been lowered another fifty bucks and a 25 dollar gift card is also being offered with this monitor so I am off to get some money back $$$:D
 
what brand of cable did you buy at bestbuy
just wondering ? HDMI to DVI
 
conghelach said:
In any case, I am not suffering from a placebo effect nor any two dimensional logic. I have had several dvi cables, none with any improvement upon the others, therefore there cannot be any improvement, therefore those who say there are improvements are illogical and suffering from a placebo.
Click to expand...
I don't want to drag out this discussion in this thread, but I do want to mention that I wasn't trying to imply in my previous post that I disagree with you simply because I've never seen an instance with my own eyes where a higher quality cable yielded improvement. I only mentioned that in response to your previous statement "All I can say is go out and get a high quality cable and see for yourself??" I was simply pointing out that I do have experience in this area, not trying to argue that my experience is exhaustive of all cases. :)

That said, I stand by the explanation given in the rest of my previous post. I believe you are incorrect because of my knowledge of the way digital signals work, not because of my personal experience. In any case, I'm afraid this discussion has no where else to go unless you're willing to explain some of the reasons you believe the cable makes a difference so we can try and understand each other better. However, we both agree that this thread isn't the proper place to write a "scientific paper", so unless you'd like to start another one I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that. :)
 
bootstrap said:
I don't want to drag out this discussion in this thread, but I do want to mention that I wasn't trying to imply in my previous post that I disagree with you simply because I've never seen an instance with my own eyes where a higher quality cable yielded improvement. I only mentioned that in response to your previous statement "All I can say is go out and get a high quality cable and see for yourself??" I was simply pointing out that I do have experience in this area, not trying to argue that my experience is exhaustive of all cases. :)

That said, I stand by the explanation given in the rest of my previous post. I believe you are incorrect because of my knowledge of the way digital signals work, not because of my personal experience. In any case, I'm afraid this discussion has no where else to go unless you're willing to explain some of the reasons you believe the cable makes a difference so we can try and understand each other better. However, we both agree that this thread isn't the proper place to write a "scientific paper", so unless you'd like to start another one I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that. :)
Click to expand...


What settings and resolution are you using with your LG? What resolution are you running it on?? Are you using the EZ VIDEO at all? I am not able to access this function and not sure why.
 
conghelach said:
AHEM AHEM oh contraire mon frere. Subtle differences do exist and they begin with your eyes, their color and a host of other items which I shall no elaborate upon in this venue. I know what you are trying to say about placebo effect, often I would replace the word placebo with ignorance. In any case, I am not suffering from a placebo effect nor any two dimensional logic. I have had several dvi cables, none with any improvement upon the others, therefore there cannot be any improvement, therefore those who say there are improvements are illogical and suffering from a placebo. It could be nothing more than my having received a defective cable with the monitor I don't know the reason for certain but I don know for certain the display looks better with the aftermarket cable I purchased.

I am reporting my experiences, with my eyeballs, your experiences and your eyeballs will vary.

In any case I am not going to be writing an essay or a scientific paper on these subjects and you are quite correct we are getting off topic as is often the case with these types of forums especially where LCD panels are concerned I've seen the dilemma many times in laptop forums as well and it will continue to be a hotly debated topic no doubt.

If you care to share your insights on calibrating, settings you are using and resolution that you use I would be most interested in that. Feel free to email me, I am off to Best Buy....those of you who just bought the LG246 and are in your 30 day window will be pleased to know that the price has been lowered another fifty bucks and a 25 dollar gift card is also being offered with this monitor so I am off to get some money back $$$:D
Click to expand...

Let's pick a simple example anyone can understand. In an analog cable, a signal is sent from the computer to the monitor as certain voltage values. Therefore, at one point, the computer might send a 3.56 V and it's received as 3.54 V in the monitor, but the next time the same signal will be received as 3.50 V instead. This would lead to slight image differences, especially if you're using a cheap cable.

In a digital cable, the signal is sent as a stream of binary values, 1's and 0's. The monitor will receive the same string of 1's and 0's and will translate it into an image onto the screen. If the signal is altered in any way, the quality of the image won't degrade, it'll either refuse to show or display a garbled image.

Your claim is that you can see a quality difference using different DVI cables. However, can you explain how a string of 1's and 0's sent through a cheaper cable will display a different picture than the same string sent through a more expensive cable?
 
Hello All,

I have been reading this thread and the thread on the Benq 24" monitor. I am very close to buying the LG, but has anyone tried the Dell 2407wfp version a04 and compared it to this LG? I am a student and would really like great clarity with test as well as good performance with watching dvd movies and playing games. With this type of usage, would you say the LG is better than the Dell? I just noticed here in the States that the Dell 2407wfp HC model has come out just today. Would you recommend going for the Dell or the LG?

I would be buying 2 of the monitors and using them as dual screen monitors. I have a BFG Geforce 7800gsoc. I would appreciate any comments as this would be my first lcd monitor purchase. Thanks for all the great knowledge I have picked up from these threads.
 
Ranma13 said:
Let's pick a simple example anyone can understand. In an analog cable, a signal is sent from the computer to the monitor as certain voltage values. Therefore, at one point, the computer might send a 3.56 V and it's received as 3.54 V in the monitor, but the next time the same signal will be received as 3.50 V instead. This would lead to slight image differences, especially if you're using a cheap cable.

In a digital cable, the signal is sent as a stream of binary values, 1's and 0's. The monitor will receive the same string of 1's and 0's and will translate it into an image onto the screen. If the signal is altered in any way, the quality of the image won't degrade, it'll either refuse to show or display a garbled image.

Your claim is that you can see a quality difference using different DVI cables. However, can you explain how a string of 1's and 0's sent through a cheaper cable will display a different picture than the same string sent through a more expensive cable?
Click to expand...

There's really nothing more to talk about here, some of you are on some endless scientific quest, I am not, I have stated my observations and experience. Unless ofcourse you have the LG monitor and care to share what kind of settings and resolution you are using or what you are calibrating it with. We could sit here and argue about digital cables til the cows come home and when they finally do nothing has changed.
 
hrdkorsocerplyr said:
Hello All,

I have been reading this thread and the thread on the Benq 24" monitor. I am very close to buying the LG, but has anyone tried the Dell 2407wfp version a04 and compared it to this LG? I am a student and would really like great clarity with test as well as good performance with watching dvd movies and playing games. With this type of usage, would you say the LG is better than the Dell? I just noticed here in the States that the Dell 2407wfp HC model has come out just today. Would you recommend going for the Dell or the LG?

I would be buying 2 of the monitors and using them as dual screen monitors. I have a BFG Geforce 7800gsoc. I would appreciate any comments as this would be my first lcd monitor purchase. Thanks for all the great knowledge I have picked up from these threads.
Click to expand...


I cannot personally speak for the Dell monitor, some like it some dont but I can speak of dell purchases and why some like their purchase and some dont. In order for dell to be able to fill their orders quickly for computers and laptops and monitors they use several different companies to supply their hardware needs. There are different companies like LG, Samsung, AU Optronics, Sharp that provide Dell with LCD panels for various LCD desktop monitors and Laptop displays. So while two people might buy a 2407 wfp one may like it the other may not chances are they have different lcd panels in the same model number. It doesnt matter what you buy from dell be it a desktop, laptop or lcd panel the hardware in your dell product is not likely to be the same as your neighbors even when it is the same model. Hence the Dell panel lottery, you just dont know what you are going to get. I have serviced several inspiron laptops and found none of them to have the same hard drives, lcd panels or optical drives in them. The other problem with buying an LCD panel from Dell is that you cannot see the product before you buy it and may have difficulty or additonal cost in returning it. I highly recommend to anyone that they buy an LCD display at a brick and mortar store, it is worth any extra money spent for no hassle returns for 30 days. Many mail order/online wont accept a return for dead pixels unless there are a large number of them, if you are like me, not one dead pixel is acceptable for such a costly product.

With the LG you will get the same panel "AU Optronics" that Benq uses in their 24 inch model but you can buy it at your local circuit city or best buy where you can return it easily for another one should you have any problems, circuit city is especially friendly with a zero dead pixel policy.
 
Actually, for the 2407, all Dell units use the same PVA panel, which, IMO, might be slightly inferior to the LG anyway. :cool:
 
applebook said:
Actually, for the 2407, all Dell units use the same PVA panel, which, IMO, might be slightly inferior to the LG anyway. :cool:
Click to expand...


Quite right, the LG has a PMVA panel which is better than PVA panels. If you must have a dell I suggest you go over to notebook forums or notebookreview or this forum and see if you can ascertain what panels are going out on the dells, dell is notorious for using a number of different panels and im sure they are doing this with the 2407 as well, I have never seen any dell LCD where they were not using different manufacturers panels, that being said, the various manufacturers they are using may all be pva panels. With Dell its a crapshoot at best in any lcd or computer you buy from them.
 
Thank you for the info about Dell. I am now considering just 2 LG 24" monitors to use as dual monitors for school/research work, or picking up a Westinghouse 37" monitor. The cost would be somewhat around the same price. Thanks for all the great info.
 
Just a note about that review. My 360 has no problem going into 1080. Maybe there is an updated firmware or something.

I still can't say enough about this display. I just think it is a bit ugly. But it is a good performer. I picked one up for $430, a steal man. :)
 
conghelach said:
There's really nothing more to talk about here, some of you are on some endless scientific quest, I am not, I have stated my observations and experience. Unless ofcourse you have the LG monitor and care to share what kind of settings and resolution you are using or what you are calibrating it with. We could sit here and argue about digital cables til the cows come home and when they finally do nothing has changed.
Click to expand...

The reason why we argue with you is not because we want to be scientifically correct, but rather to educate. You're the type of person who will convince others to buy an expensive DVI or optical cable on the premise that quality is somehow improved when it is not. Rather than listen to our explanations, you've ignored us, even refusing to disprove my simple challenge on explaining how two digital signals with the same data will display a different image.

Has it ever occurred to you that you might be the one who's seeing a quality difference, simply because you want to, even though there's actually no difference whatsoever? If you don't want to discuss this any further, I will honor that wish, but if you do wish to prove your point, I ask that you provide proof, such as with pictures and such. I'm willing to hear your reasoning so as long as you can provide sufficient evidence to back it up.
 
kmrivers said:
Just a note about that review. My 360 has no problem going into 1080. Maybe there is an updated firmware or something.

I still can't say enough about this display. I just think it is a bit ugly. But it is a good performer. I picked one up for $430, a steal man. :)
Click to expand...

Where did you find it for $430?

Does anyone have pictures of using a PS3 on this monitor? Is there overscan with 1080P using HDMI?

Thanks
 
Lucky eBay snag. I am thinking about dumping off the second one I got that is still in the box and the one I am using so I can get a 2707... tough decision. Should I just use the 2 LGs? What do you guys think?
 
Can anyone post their settings with this. I just picked one up and I just can't get it right.

Thanks
Ryan
 
Ranma13 said:
The reason why we argue with you is not because we want to be scientifically correct, but rather to educate. You're the type of person who will convince others to buy an expensive DVI or optical cable on the premise that quality is somehow improved when it is not. Rather than listen to our explanations, you've ignored us, even refusing to disprove my simple challenge on explaining how two digital signals with the same data will display a different image.

Has it ever occurred to you that you might be the one who's seeing a quality difference, simply because you want to, even though there's actually no difference whatsoever? If you don't want to discuss this any further, I will honor that wish, but if you do wish to prove your point, I ask that you provide proof, such as with pictures and such. I'm willing to hear your reasoning so as long as you can provide sufficient evidence to back it up.
Click to expand...

I believe my quote that you posted to your response says it all....:D
 
kmrivers said:
Lucky eBay snag. I am thinking about dumping off the second one I got that is still in the box and the one I am using so I can get a 2707... tough decision. Should I just use the 2 LGs? What do you guys think?
Click to expand...

why not have 2 matching ones!
 
ascarytiger said:
I think most of the stores in my district (which is Kansas), got 3 of them.

I'm going to try and hook one up to a PC and see how well video plays back on them. Unfortunatly none of our PCs have DVI out, so I'll be stuck with analog.
Click to expand...

What about the Gateway GM5446E it has a 7650gs with dual DVI.
 
vidoprof said:
Can anyone post their settings with this. I just picked one up and I just can't get it right.

Thanks
Ryan
Click to expand...

After a few days of tinkering I am using the monitor primarily at 1280x960 resolution, This works for me, I dont like clear type or to mess about with text size in windows. The text is clear and comfortable to me at this setting, others will argue ofcourse and your results may vary.
As for color/contrast/brightness settings I initially made my own adjustments under the USER setting but found that for gaming these settings were too dark. Anyhow after playing around with other settings when selecting the MENU under the first category PICTURE I selected CSM and clicked OK/AUTO then selected the profile SRGB and set the brightness of the panel to 30. This has given me the most satisfactory results soo far, I am not sure what the contrast is at this setting but when going back to some games like battlefield2 the game was no longer too dark to play, it was well......perfect....for me anyhow. What you like may be different.
Also I have found that I am unable to use the EZ VIDEO setting, not sure if it is not available due to using the HDMI or because of some other setting I have selected, the LG disk that came with the monitor wasnt extremely helpful as far as the manual is concerned but I did install the driver so my monitor is properly recognized.
I am using an EVGA 8800GTS 320mb graphics card. Recent nvidia control panel updates do not have the gamma, digital vibrance and other settings that I used to enjoy with my 6800 GT video card which is probably what I would have used to adjust the monitor were those options available to me at this time.
Anyhow with the settings mentioned I get deep blacks, a screen that is not to bright and looks good. I dont much fancy the idea of buying a calibrator and endlessly tweaking my monitor like some prefer to do.

The best advice I have for you is to play with the settings and see what you like, experiment with various resolutions to find one that is comfortable for you with regard to text size.

Using the SRGB profile and a brightness of 30 works for me quite nicely and I am satisfied for the moment unless I get some compulsive urge to do some more tweaking. Really what I was looking for was a similar appearance to the samsung lcd which the LG replaced and would venture to say that most people use their previous monitors as a frame of reference to how they want their new one, in this case the LG to look.

I hope you find this helpful, be sure to let us know what settings you decide to use. The LG is a great monitor, coming from a 19 inch lcd it does take some getting used to and I found it helpful to web browse, view pictures, screen savers and play games at different resolutions to see what I liked the best and so far it is 1280x960. Im sure there are some purists out there who will give me a scolding for not running at the native 1920x1200 but even with 20/20 vision text is too tiny and with XP adjusting font sizes does not give me results that I was satisfied with.

I find anytime I upgrade to a new monitor or video card things will look different.
 
kmrivers said:
Lucky eBay snag. I am thinking about dumping off the second one I got that is still in the box and the one I am using so I can get a 2707... tough decision. Should I just use the 2 LGs? What do you guys think?
Click to expand...

That depends on you really, for me, one 24 inch monitor on my desk is quite enough and an even larger panel I have deemed unnecessary. If it were a choice between driving two lcds as opposed to a larger panel I would probably go with a larger panel but you should take space into consideration too. Larger than 24 inches, lcd's are generally TV's and dont come with adjustable stands for height, I dont like my monitor to be sitting on the desk, I prefer to raise it up to a more comfortable height.
 
conghelach said:
After a few days of tinkering I am using the monitor primarily at 1280x960 resolution,
Click to expand...
god... I used to run a 19" CRT (18" visible) at more than that, and my eyesight's not the best. Not only are you running at a ridiculously low non-native resolution, it has a 4:3 ratio when the monitor's physical aspect ratio is 16:10.

No disrespect, but it makes *any* of your claims about image quality seem a little suspect, never mind your supposed ability to differentiate between two identical digital signals.

conghelach said:
Really what I was looking for was a similar appearance to the samsung lcd which the LG replaced and would venture to say that most people use their previous monitors as a frame of reference to how they want their new one, in this case the LG to look.
Click to expand...
errmm... I can't speak for others, but if I'm spending a large wedge of cash on a monitor upgrade, I'd want it to look a damn sight *better* than what I'm replacing, or else what's the point?

If you just want it to look as much like your previous 19" model as possible, it seems a colossal waste of resources. Still, if you're happy with your purchase, that's the main thing. :)
 
DeFex said:
why not have 2 matching ones!
Click to expand...

Well I would be getting rid of both to get the 2707. I haven't really made a choice yet. I am starting to like the look of the LG though.

conghelach said:
That depends on you really, for me, one 24 inch monitor on my desk is quite enough and an even larger panel I have deemed unnecessary. If it were a choice between driving two lcds as opposed to a larger panel I would probably go with a larger panel but you should take space into consideration too. Larger than 24 inches, lcd's are generally TV's and dont come with adjustable stands for height, I dont like my monitor to be sitting on the desk, I prefer to raise it up to a more comfortable height.
Click to expand...

One 24" is enough. I agree, but driving the two displays wouldn't be too taxing. I am going to have two 8x00 cards on my next computer.

Plus I want to be able to use my 360 on one while my comp is up on the other. So I don't have to switch back and forth. I might set it up. I am holding out on opening the other one until I know for sure.

The 2707 is height adjustable for the record though.
 
nick8571 said:
god... I used to run a 19" CRT (18" visible) at more than that, and my eyesight's not the best. Not only are you running at a ridiculously low non-native resolution, it has a 4:3 ratio when the monitor's physical aspect ratio is 16:10.

No disrespect, but it makes *any* of your claims about image quality seem a little suspect, never mind your supposed ability to differentiate between two identical digital signals.


errmm... I can't speak for others, but if I'm spending a large wedge of cash on a monitor upgrade, I'd want it to look a damn sight *better* than what I'm replacing, or else what's the point?

If you just want it to look as much like your previous 19" model as possible, it seems a colossal waste of resources. Still, if you're happy with your purchase, that's the main thing. :)
Click to expand...



I agree and my new monitor does look a dam sight better than my previous monitor, I knew someone would throw a fit because I dont use my monitor at native resolution. I dont like 1920x1200 plain and simple. Not everyone wants tiny text, at least I dont :D :D :D
I like this monitor to look as much like my frame of reference which for me was my previous monitor with regards to color/contrast/brightness, I am using the SRGB setting. Yes the picture is very sharp at 1920x1200 but most games dont support that high of a resolution and the text is very tiny, unless you have some better suggestions on making the text larger, I dont like the way clear type looks on the LG panel either. So far I find 1280x960 and 1600x900 ( which is a wide screen resolution) to look quite nice. I especially like the deeper blacks, the low light leakage which is evenly distributed across the panel and the enhanced viewing angles over my previous TN panel. Do you have the LG panel? If so what settings are you using??
 
conghelach said:
I agree and my new monitor does look a dam sight better than my previous monitor, I knew someone would throw a fit because I dont use my monitor at native resolution. I dont like 1920x1200 plain and simple. Not everyone wants tiny text, at least I dont :D :D :D
Click to expand...

Non-native resolution!? BLASPHEMY! :eek:
 
Alright, so my monitor arrives today (ordered it from BestBuy.com). All excited about it all day long, hook it up, plug it in.

Looks bright overall. Load up Word. Nasty large 'darkness' about 2/3 of the way down on about 1/5th of the entire screen horizontally. Nasty. Load up FireFox, same thing at the same part of the screen. After 5 minutes, the screen begins blinking uncontrollably. Crap!

Looks like this thing is defective. Gonna return it at a BestBuy brick and mortar store and try to exchange it for a working one.

I hope that the new one:
A. Works (duh)
B. Has uniform lighting and no nasty darkened areas across the length of the entire screen (that was just awful and I probably would have returned it for that alone)
C. Has no dead pixels (which was the redeeming value of this panel).

Having said that, this marks the longest consecutive steak of bad, broken, or nonfuncitonal computer hardware I've ever had. It started with months and months of an Alienware debacle, followed by Gateway's Crossfire issue (the back of the master card connector was broken preventing the cable from fitting properly), a magically dead iPod USB cable, and now getting a DOA brand new flatscreen. All in all, 12 months of as soon as I buy it, I'm on the phone calling for a replacement...

Just had to vent...
 
conghelach said:
I believe my quote that you posted to your response says it all....:D
Click to expand...

~shrug~ If you want to spend your hard-earned money on 'high quality' cables that provide the same picture quality as a cheaper one, that's your prerogative, it doesn't bother me any. Just don't go around telling others to do the same and then being ignorant when we tell you you're spouting bullshit.
 
Ranma13 said:
~shrug~ If you want to spend your hard-earned money on 'high quality' cables that provide the same picture quality as a cheaper one, that's your prerogative, it doesn't bother me any. Just don't go around telling others to do the same and then being ignorant when we tell you you're spouting bullshit.
Click to expand...


I purchased an aftermarket cable for my LG monitor for DVI to HDMI connection and have noticed an improvement over the included cable.
I highly recommend purchasing an aftermarket cable, your results may vary, however, It was worth the investment and only cost me 50 bucks. Get yours TODAY :D
 
Sharps97 said:
Alright, so my monitor arrives today (ordered it from BestBuy.com). All excited about it all day long, hook it up, plug it in.

Looks bright overall. Load up Word. Nasty large 'darkness' about 2/3 of the way down on about 1/5th of the entire screen horizontally. Nasty. Load up FireFox, same thing at the same part of the screen. After 5 minutes, the screen begins blinking uncontrollably. Crap!

Looks like this thing is defective. Gonna return it at a BestBuy brick and mortar store and try to exchange it for a working one.

I hope that the new one:
A. Works (duh)
B. Has uniform lighting and no nasty darkened areas across the length of the entire screen (that was just awful and I probably would have returned it for that alone)
C. Has no dead pixels (which was the redeeming value of this panel).

Having said that, this marks the longest consecutive steak of bad, broken, or nonfuncitonal computer hardware I've ever had. It started with months and months of an Alienware debacle, followed by Gateway's Crossfire issue (the back of the master card connector was broken preventing the cable from fitting properly), a magically dead iPod USB cable, and now getting a DOA brand new flatscreen. All in all, 12 months of as soon as I buy it, I'm on the phone calling for a replacement...

Just had to vent...
Click to expand...

What kind of video card are you using? What hookup are you using? VGA or HDMI to DVI?? Did you play around with some of the settings? HDMI to DVI will give you a much better picture over VGA. You do need a good video card for a 24 inch monitor. Let us know how things go mate.
 
Ranma13 said:
~shrug~ If you want to spend your hard-earned money on 'high quality' cables that provide the same picture quality as a cheaper one, that's your prerogative, it doesn't bother me any. Just don't go around telling others to do the same and then being ignorant when we tell you you're spouting bullshit.
Click to expand...


Obviously it does bother you tremendously as you cannot seem to let it go..... :D :D :D
 
What kind of video card are you using? What hookup are you using? VGA or HDMI to DVI?? Did you play around with some of the settings? HDMI to DVI will give you a much better picture over VGA. You do need a good video card for a 24 inch monitor. Let us know how things go mate.
Click to expand...

Video Card - ATI Crossfire Edition 1950XT
Cable - included HDMI to DVI

So, I think my PC setup is fine. I just got bum luck with a bad monitor. Tomorrow I am heading out to the brick and mortar BB, and hopefully we can get this taken care of. I hope that they can hook the replacement up for me to inspect before I walk out the door. It's a bit of pain to drive to Delaware.
 
conghelach said:
Obviously it does bother you tremendously as you cannot seem to let it go..... :D :D :D
Click to expand...
So says the guy who has to reply twice to my post.

conghelach said:
I purchased an aftermarket cable for my LG monitor for DVI to HDMI connection and have noticed an improvement over the included cable.
Click to expand...

Prove it. As the saying goes, pictures or it didn't happen.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top