8600GT vs 7 series

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hi guys I 'm just wondering which is the better one. 8600GT or the 7 series like 7800 GS /7800 GT/ 7950 GTX. there is so many of them I'm confused. I mean looking at the name 8600 GT is a higher number than the 7 series, then it supposed to run graphics better, but how come I see on newegg the price is alot lower than the 7 series. I wish there's a site that has comparison beetween all nvidia cards.
 
Unless you want DX10 then get a 7 series card, they are much better value for money. If you want to game using DX10 then you would pretty much need a 8800gts or higher.
 
I'm rather leery of this generation of cards and their DX10 performance, especially the mid range cards.

I'd get a 7900GS for like $120 and OC it. That would be your best bet for the ~$100 price range unless you *need* DX10.
 
Look at the second number, *600 is a mid end card *800/*900 is a high end card. 8*00 series is a newer generation than 7*00 series but sometimes a high end card from the older generation is faster than a mid card from the new generation, same thing applies to ATi as well. Go to wikipedia and search for "Comparison of NVIDIA Graphics Processing Units" or "Comparison of ATi Graphics Processing Units" to know the rank of the cards.
 
hmm, i´ll bet a 7800GT OC gives around the same performance as a 8600GT

have to run some benchmarks though
 
leSLIe said:
hmm, i´ll bet a 7800GT OC gives around the same performance as a 8600GT

have to run some benchmarks though
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You would be wrong. It gives about half the performance at anything more than 1280x1024 and even worse with eye candy on. 8600 GT still has a 128-bit memory pipe to contend with while the 7800 GT has 256-bit memory pipe.
 
worx said:
Is this a good deal for the 7900gs OC?
http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4970851

Is it better to get a 8600gts or 7900gs OC? I don't really need dx10. How important is HDCP?
Which one has a bigger power consumption?
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rebate ended today. The 8600gts and 7900gs use almost the same power. Now that the prices are dropping an 8600gts is not that bad of deal. The 7900gs beats it in some games but games like Stalker the 8600gts easily wins.
 
Thanks for the info guys

and thanks munif. I never knew that we should see the second number. thank you very much :) anyway how about the GT and GS or GTX thing. whent it comes to cars like mercedez benz. the lower the alphabet, the more exclusive the car is. like c series vs s series. is it the same thing with nvidia card too ?

alg7_munif said:
Look at the second number, *600 is a mid end card *800/*900 is a high end card. 8*00 series is a newer generation than 7*00 series but sometimes a high end card from the older generation is faster than a mid card from the new generation, same thing applies to ATi as well. Go to wikipedia and search for "Comparison of NVIDIA Graphics Processing Units" or "Comparison of ATi Graphics Processing Units" to know the rank of the cards.
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jajaja said:
Thanks for the info guys

and thanks munif. I never knew that we should see the second number. thank you very much :) anyway how about the GT and GS or GTX thing. whent it comes to cars like mercedez benz. the lower the alphabet, the more exclusive the car is. like c series vs s series. is it the same thing with nvidia card too ?
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within the same model(i.e. 8800) it usually goes Ultra>GTX>GTS>GT>GS. of course they dont always use those and when you see LE its usually stripped down. XT is also a stripped down card for Nvidia. ATI is completely different.
 
trek554 said:
within the same model(i.e. 8800) it usually goes Ultra>GTX>GTS>GT>GS. of course they dont always use those and when you see LE its usually stripped down. XT is also a stripped down card for Nvidia. ATI is completely different.
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thank youuuu. and by stripped down you mean ?
 
Look at the second number, *600 is a mid end card *800/*900 is a high end card.
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If you look back a few years, the mid range card tended to match or better the performance of the high end card the day before. 6600gt vs 9800pro, 7600gt to 6800gt. Just seems like this gen of mid range is a stinker.
 
I forgot this last question. what about cards ending with KO or OC ?
 
Those are the initials certain manufacturers assign to their factory overclocked cards.
 
If you want to know how the GPU are ranked, check this out for nVidia's cards and this for ATi's. The GPUs are listed according to their generation and performance, the latter GPU from a generation has more performance. My advice, don't go for the best GPU of a generation but go with a lower GPU that has a same config core as the best GPU because the best GPU is usually priced a lot more expensive eventhough the performance difference is not very big.
 
daamn. it really beats 7900 GS from the review. now I'm leaning more toward 8600. can a card that support DX10 run DX9 ?

edit : I was wrong. It is 8600 GTS compared to 7900 GS , not 8600 GT
 
jajaja said:
daamn. it really beats 7900 GS from the review. now I'm leaning more toward 8600. can a card that support DX10 run DX9 ?

edit : I was wrong. It is 8600 GTS compared to 7900 GS , not 8600 GT
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of course it can run dx9. those games you just looked at were DX9. new cards can always run the previous versions of games.
 
Well beyond that, a 7900GS should be able to at least hit 7900GT performance. Mine is about in btwn a 7900GT and a 7950GT core performance wise. My memory performance is higher than either. And my core should beat a 7950GT after my volt modding.

This is of course stock speed 7900GT's and 7950GT's. But the GS is about $120ish and the 7950GT is about $200 so it seems like a good deal to me.

The 8600GTS (Not sure about the GT) seem to be decent OCers and are volt moddable, but I didn't really see much performance testing when I was reading all of that and mostly just saw what speeds they were hitting.
 
keep in mind also that the 8600 uses less electrical power and can even be cooled passively (gigabyte version) so if you like a quiet computer or are worried about power consumption /heat generation/ unreliable fans you might consider it.
 
DeFex said:
keep in mind also that the 8600 uses less electrical power and can even be cooled passively (gigabyte version) so if you like a quiet computer or are worried about power consumption /heat generation/ unreliable fans you might consider it.
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uses less power than what? a 7900gs and 8600gts have almost the exact same power draw. a 7900gt only uses about 10 more watts than those two.
 
9600GT, it uses less than the higher end 7x00, 10 watts may not seem like much but it is heat that needs to be removed.
 
DeFex said:
9600GT, it uses less than the higher end 7x00, 10 watts may not seem like much but it is heat that needs to be removed.
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9600gt??? if 10 watts sways your video card decision then I think you have issues. :p
 
WintersFury said:
Well beyond that, a 7900GS should be able to at least hit 7900GT performance. Mine is about in btwn a 7900GT and a 7950GT core performance wise. My memory performance is higher than either. And my core should beat a 7950GT after my volt modding.

This is of course stock speed 7900GT's and 7950GT's. But the GS is about $120ish and the 7950GT is about $200 so it seems like a good deal to me.

The 8600GTS (Not sure about the GT) seem to be decent OCers and are volt moddable, but I didn't really see much performance testing when I was reading all of that and mostly just saw what speeds they were hitting.
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I doubt it, eventhough you can get the same core speed, 7950GT has 24 pipeline and 7900GS only has 20.
 
jajaja said:
hi guys I 'm just wondering which is the better one. 8600GT or the 7 series like 7800 GS /7800 GT/ 7950 GTX. there is so many of them I'm confused. I mean looking at the name 8600 GT is a higher number than the 7 series, then it supposed to run graphics better, but how come I see on newegg the price is alot lower than the 7 series. I wish there's a site that has comparison beetween all nvidia cards.
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A card like the 8600 GT/GTS, will not be faster than a 7900 GTX, in the majority of situations. However, given the new architecture, even the 8600 GTS can make high-end cards from previous generations, look bad. Examples of that, are shader intensive games such as Oblivion, which just loves G80. Keep that in mind, because in certain games, the 8600's are excellent performers. In others, they won't be faster than previous generation high-end.
However, given the 128 bit memory interface, a 8600, will not be a very good card, for any resolution above 1280x1024.

In short, If you don't intend to game at resolutions above 1280x1024 and don't mind to make some compromises in eye candy (like lowering AA levels), get a 8600 GTS. If that's not your cup of tea, get a 7900 GTX/X1950 XT or even better, a 8800 GTS 320. Best bang for your buck right now.
 
alg7_munif said:
I doubt it, eventhough you can get the same core speed, 7950GT has 24 pipeline and 7900GS only has 20.
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The loss of four pipes makes a 7900GS about ten percent slower than a 7900GT (and the 7900GS is about ten percent faster than a 7800GT).

Overclocking the 7900GS from its stock core speed of 450mhz to the 600 - 700mhz range makes up for the lost pipes very well, and easily pushes it past a stock 7900GT / 7950GT.

(Of course a similarly overclocked 7900GT / 7950GT still would win due to the extra pipes).

But as Wintersfury pointed out, the 7900GS can be found going cheap - recently as low as $99 - compared to the still fairly high price of the 7950GT. A 7900GS, the conductive ink found in a $6 rear-window-defrost-repair-kit and a spare casefan makes for some voltmod enabled overclocking goodness on the cheap.
 
123Lanoix said:
whats the power requirements

for a 8600GT
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the 8600gt only pulls around 40-45 watts. any decent 300 to 350 watt psu is fine if you have a basic system. if using more than 2 or 3 drives and sound cards and such then 350watt minimum is recommended.
 
iam trying to upgrade a dell

its a p4 3ghz with a pcie x300 currently
i belive it has 2 hds in a RAid configure from the factory
i installed vista home premium on it
and its working really well but the x300 is really shitty and it doesn't use dedicated memory
it uses the system memory

its kinda laggy in that 3d windows scroll
so iam loooking for a good video card with decent performance with low power consumption
either 8600gT or 7600GT pcie
 
123Lanoix said:
iam trying to upgrade a dell

its a p4 3ghz with a pcie x300 currently
i belive it has 2 hds in a RAid configure from the factory
i installed vista home premium on it
and its working really well but the x300 is really shitty and it doesn't use dedicated memory
it uses the system memory

its kinda laggy in that 3d windows scroll
so iam loooking for a good video card with decent performance with low power consumption
either 8600gT or 7600GT pcie
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the 7600gt and 8600gt both use almost the exact same amount of power. the 8600gt is a lot better in some games like STALKER and about even with the 7600gt in others. on newegg you can a 7600gt for under a $100 and a 8600gt for just a little more.
 
thats what i was thinking
i really like the features of the 8600Gt
ive been hearing the 8600 does better hd stuff than even the 8800gts

the computer iam putting it in is for light gaming
probably won't get upgraded for a long long long long time if ever
 
I have decided to get the 6800 for now and I'll upgrade latter when 8800 series price drops :eek:
 
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