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Windows 7 + Bittorrent = fail

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Castor Troy

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Here's the problem that I'm running into.

Under most conditions, I have no problems with Win7 networking. However, there is one HUGE exception to that.

When torrenting, the NIC's basically shit themselves. With anywhere from 20 minutes to 10 hours of use, the NIC will stop working. It can ping itself, but I cannot ping out to anything (gateway, dns servers, etc). If I disable + reenable the nic, everything works fine, for another 20 minutes. Only way to get more than another 20 minutes out of it is to reboot. Then I'll be able to get a few hours out of it again, if I'm torrenting.

I'm running the RTM of Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. Board is an asus m2n-sli deluxe, with nforce 570 sli chipset and dual 10/100/1000 nics. The problem happens with both NICs. I'm running the latest WHQL drivers from nVidia.

Anybody else experiencing any similar issues?

To add: It's like the NIC is completely locking up. It's not even able to detect that I've disconnected the ethernet cable, if I unplug it after it's locked up.

I've got an Intel 10/100/1000 that I'm going to try tomorrow, and see if it suffers from similar problems.
 
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You sure it's not a router issue?

Oh and not experiencing any problems with torrents and Windows 7 RC. Specs in sig.

IIRC, Nvidia's older NICs are particularly more troublesome than others.
 
NVidias Active Armor firewall that comes with the motherboard drivers causes problems with torrents.
utorrents devs listed it as incompatible and indeed it is.
You can choose not to install the firewall when installing the drivers.
 
Use NICs that don't suck.

Probably a driver issue. The Intel will be fine, and if you had it, you should've been using it already :p
 
using RC 7100 without issue and can torrent for days on end.. I have had issues with nVidias firewall thingy on some older builds. I always ended up uninstalling it in the end on those setups
 
Yes, I'm sure it is not a router issue. A router issue would not cause the NIC to lock up to the point that it can't even tell if there is a cable plugged into it or not.

I know that nVidia's firewall doesnt work well; I did not install it initially.
 
This is not a Win 7 issue, I and many others can assure you of that.
 
I'm having bittorrent issues with Win7 x64 RTM. My nic will shit it self randomly too when using BT. It's an Ralink chipset wireless adapter. I don't know if that helps, but I just wanted to toss in my experience.
 
No issues here either.

Oh, and there are better, faster and more secure options than torrents....
 
Archer75 said:
Oh, and there are better, faster and more secure options than torrents....
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Unless you are a complete idiot, its stupid easy to max out your connection wtih bittorrent. I have never had a problem pegging my 20Mb/s connection.. Don't spread FUD.
 
Castor Troy said:
Here's the problem that I'm running into.

Under most conditions, I have no problems with Win7 networking. However, there is one HUGE exception to that.

When torrenting, the NIC's basically shit themselves. With anywhere from 20 minutes to 10 hours of use, the NIC will stop working. It can ping itself, but I cannot ping out to anything (gateway, dns servers, etc). If I disable + reenable the nic, everything works fine, for another 20 minutes. Only way to get more than another 20 minutes out of it is to reboot. Then I'll be able to get a few hours out of it again, if I'm torrenting.

I'm running the RTM of Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. Board is an asus m2n-sli deluxe, with nforce 570 sli chipset and dual 10/100/1000 nics. The problem happens with both NICs. I'm running the latest WHQL drivers from nVidia.

Anybody else experiencing any similar issues?

To add: It's like the NIC is completely locking up. It's not even able to detect that I've disconnected the ethernet cable, if I unplug it after it's locked up.

I've got an Intel 10/100/1000 that I'm going to try tomorrow, and see if it suffers from similar problems.
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I always like to see people blame OS for their shitty hardware. :rolleyes:
 
criccio said:
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Unless you are a complete idiot, its stupid easy to max out your connection wtih bittorrent. I have never had a problem pegging my 20Mb/s connection.. Don't spread FUD.
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Not FUD at all. I have very very rarely maxed out my connection on torrents. Not in windows, not in linux and not currently in OSX. Not with different torrent clients, different NIC's or different routers. Not even in two different states on different computers.
And yes, there are things you can and should do to optimize your torrents and torrent client, but that only takes you so far.
You are always limited by the people uploading. Try downloading an unpopular tv show, movie or app. You are at the mercy of the person or people uploading. And slowed down more if your ISP is traffic shaping.
Sure, I can max my connection on torrents on a newly released, highly popular file, but that is very rare.
Then you need to seed too. If you just leech you run the risk of getting blocked. If your ISP has a bandwidth cap you are also eating up twice the bandwidth by downloading and seeding.


But even so, there are more secure options. With less hassle.
 
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Grentz said:
No problems with my Atheros L1 NIC in Win7 x64.
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I've had issues with mine on an ASUS board with the latest driver update from Windows U[date. I moved to a revision newer than what came with the RTM, but older than the very newest. And my issues went away. My network would die any time I copied more than 4 GB or so to my file server from my workstation.

I could copy as much data down as i wanted, but up caused issues. I could disable and re-enable the driver, and back to work it would go. A bit of a pain.
 
Castor Troy said:
no offense, but get fucked. it may be "shitty hardware" but it had zero issues with over 2 years of use in windows xp.
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You officially lost me right there. You came in blaming Win 7 (heck its in your title), it turns out it is your hardware/drivers that are currently available for your hardware, he was pretty much stating the obvious.

Dont take things so personally. I want to choke the devs at Creative for the years of shitty XFI drivers, I dont take it personally that it sucked for so long and I own one.
 
You get this same complaint every new OS release as the new OS uses more features present in your motherboard than the old OS..

heard the same thing from 95 to 98 (it worked great with the old OS, even OC'd)
98 to 2k (it worked great with the old OS, even OC'd)
2k to XP (it worked great with the old OS, even OC'd)
XP to Vista/Win7 (it worked great with the old OS, even OC'd)

Doubt it will ever change.
 
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You are Blaming an OS for a problem that is not OS related.

Just because you didnt notice it before doesnt mean shit.

The fact is that board uses the Marvel PHY LAN controller which is trash.
Its PCI based so sharing two *GBe*(if you can really call it that) on one PCI lane.
So the max speed you could ever hope to get is really about half GBe theoretically.
Then throw on some shitty drivers becuase Marvel finds it a waste of time to update older hardware for Win7, and your gonna have problems.

Seriously if you have an Intel NIC why are you not using it?
 
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