Plasma is still beautiful and it's image quality rivals any modern tech!

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Recently started gaming on a Panasonic professional plasma monitor, and it's 60 inches of last generation phospors delivers a stunning image, crt like motion, no haloing or phosphor trails. I readily admit that plasma had to die, and that OLED is a worthy replacement, but I sure would have enjoyed seeing what Pioneer and Panasonic had in store for us.
 

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I love the image these units produce. Recently bought 3 professional models with Jan 2014 manufacture dates for less than 350.00 total. Best money I've ever spent in 25 years of computing. Totally replaced my 22in crt monitors and set me up for the rest of the decade. :) 60 inches of the latest in plasma tech......
 

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I have a 40 inch Panasonic plasma in my bedroom. It is ok.. not the pro model and it shows. My LG UHD has a nicer picture.
 
I loved my Panasonic plasma, sadly I lost it to a storm. I tried replacing the main board inside but it just wouldn't come back to life :(
 
Harvestor said:
Still use and love my pioneer kuro 60, if only they would make a new plasma in 4k i would by in a heart beat
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Tough call for me. I have not had a plasma in a bit due to a storm, but now that I have experienced OLED I would need to compare both.
 
DooLocsta said:
Tough call for me. I have not had a plasma in a bit due to a storm, but now that I have experienced OLED I would need to compare both.
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I've had both and I prefer plasma for it's more natural and softer image; almost like a crt in terms of presentation. That said, if you are into HDR then oled is the way to go.
 
cesarioFL71 said:
I've had both and I prefer plasma for it's more natural and softer image; almost like a crt in terms of presentation. That said, if you are into HDR then oled is the way to go.
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Turning the sharpness down on an OLED TV will produce an even more natural looking picture than a plasma TV.
 
ZodaEX said:
Turning the sharpness down on an OLED TV will produce an even more natural looking picture than a plasma TV.
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That's not true. I've had all three techs next to each other at the same time for over two months. The image is still not the same and never will be due to the nature of oled and the way the subpixel grid is laid out. Also, the black crush on oled is always there along with minimal shadow detail that my plasma monitors excel in. Let's not forget that plasma has motion blur closer to a crt. As long as OLED remains a sample and hold display with no BFI that will always be an issue. That said, OLED is an excellent display tech and were it not for my plasmas I'd still have my C2.
 
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If it was financially feasible for Plasma to get 4k displays, it likely could've lasted for another generation. I always wanted a Pioneer Kuro. But let's be real, $5000+ in 2007 was insanely expensive.

In retrospect it made a lot of sense that Pioneer exited the display market. They wanted to make something premium, driven by excellence. But they were defeated by a market that only cared about price. Pioneer then sold off all their patents to Panasonic, which is while we'll never see another "Pioneer Kuro" brand/label resurrection under OLED. I haven't really seen Panasonic do anything with all the patents they got from Pioneer. I guess they are starting to make a dent in the OLED space as the #4 brand after Sony, LG, and Samsung.
 
I'm still bummed I had a nice tv on the way when my local auction house was selling new in box 65" or something plasma tvs that Boeing bought and never used. The silver lining is I didn't have to move a giant plasma. We have a 42" 720p plasma that came with the house and that's a beast to move. (And lovely)
 
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I'm still bummed I had a nice tv on the way when my local auction house was selling new in box 65" or something plasma tvs that Boeing bought and never used. The silver lining is I didn't have to move a giant plasma. We have a 42" 720p plasma that came with the house and that's a beast to move. (And lovely)
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Pioneer Kuro Plasma can be bought cheaply nowadays if we know the right source. The problem is most of them are huge and I couldn't find any on Ebay anymore. Only mainstream Plasma models with subpar condition are selling online currently.
 
i have multiple people who have told me if I ever want to sell my kuro they want it, for 1080P content it cant be beat.
For movie night if we dont have a 4k disk the family prefers watching on it even tho its slightly smaller.
 
Harvestor said:
i have multiple people who have told me if I ever want to sell my kuro they want it, for 1080P content it cant be beat.
For movie night if we dont have a 4k disk the family prefers watching on it even tho its slightly smaller.
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What he said........

Something else that surprised me was how fast phosphors in my "Neo Plasma" units react compared to my Sony G520, HP p1230 and Cornerstone P1500 crt monitors. The plasma leaves no trace of mouse trails or afterglow while even the best crt monitors including my former FW900 had mouse trails when displaying an all black screen. These "fast switching phospors developed by Panasonic is a hallmark of it''s 9th generation plasma tech. These improved phosphors really shine during the ANSI Contrast Test where plasma shows little light bleed from whites to black in the checkerboard pattern.
 
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First, I've never owned a Plasma TV/display. However, decades ago (or more), I worked in a datacenter where they bought like a $50-75K Plasma display, it was huge, maybe 50" (?) and had, you know the resolution of that cheap laptop from Wal*Mart... but, we used it as our "monitoring" display (the glass wall faced an area where people could see in). Of course, I think you know how things turned out....
 
I have a ca. 2013 (I think) 65" Panasonic tv as my main viewing TV. It still looks great but I'm getting antsy now that it seems it's becoming salad days for huge tvs with low prices.

Seriously considering retiring it for a 98/100" mini LED this year.
 
jvrobert said:
I have a ca. 2013 (I think) 65" Panasonic tv as my main viewing TV. It still looks great but I'm getting antsy now that it seems it's becoming salad days for huge tvs with low prices.

Seriously considering retiring it for a 98/100" mini LED this year.
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Nice!
 
cjcox said:
First, I've never owned a Plasma TV/display. However, decades ago (or more), I worked in a datacenter where they bought like a $50-75K Plasma display, it was huge, maybe 50" (?) and had, you know the resolution of that cheap laptop from Wal*Mart... but, we used it as our "monitoring" display (the glass wall faced an area where people could see in). Of course, I think you know how things turned out....
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I was given this 42" Plasma that was used in an Airport Terminal at the Baggage Claim area,
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Zepher said:
I was given this 42" Plasma that was used in an Airport Terminal at the Baggage Claim area,
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In my case, I was talking about digging it out and trying to use it and the burn-in was massive.
 
cjcox said:
In my case, I was talking about digging it out and trying to use it and the burn-in was massive.
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Look closely at the images, you can read the text on the display that is burned in.
 
l88bastard said:
I had a 65" panasonic plasma then sold it once oled came on the scene.

That's one TV I regret selling 😞
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Did the exact opposite and sold my 42in C2 after a month with my plasmas. HDR is the only sellling point for me with oled. Blacks are great but crush is bad and shadow detail is poor. I play alot of dark, moody games and my plasmas have about 90% of the oleds blacks. Shadow detail on the plasmas spanks the oled. Lastly, my plasmas have no motion blur due to the "low persistence phosphors" used specifically in these monitors. They are faster than any high end crt i'e; FW900 etc;. Lastly, input lag is near zero as these are strictly monitors with no image processing. Unfortunately, even the best consumer plasma TVs like the ZT60 or Pioneer equivalent have too much input lag for my taste. Don't get me wrong they are still great TV's but just a tad too much lag for pc gaming. I'm working on obtaining one more of these as backup and I should be golden for the foreseeable future.
 
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I base my desire for plasma over oled for pc gaming only and not media consumption. All of that processing you mention is absent on my plasmas and its pure, clean signal provides crt level input lag and motion clarity. I've mentioned earlier why I prefer plasma over oled for pure image quality also. That said, oled is a great tech and if I were interested in hdr it would be my daily driver.
 
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