New BenQ arrives tomorrow (I love Amazon)!
More details and thoughts once I get it hooked up.
looking forward to it, get some side by side pics with your current screen
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New BenQ arrives tomorrow (I love Amazon)!
More details and thoughts once I get it hooked up.
looking forward to it, get some side by side pics with your current screen
http://www.alza.sk/32-benq-bl3200pt-d1529260.htm
i doubt it can help you though, i'm quite sure they only ship within czech rep. and slovakia.
Will try to get one. Will be tough as the Korean is wall mounted at my standing up desk set up.
You guys will probably think I'm crazy, but I'm sending it back.
I just find the text on it to look "ugh". I'm going to keep milking time off the 'ol Korean until I decide what 4K direction to go.
@skuko - Sounds like you'll enjoy the monitor. It was just an instantaneous "downgrade" (even if slight) for me and not worth it to keep.
It all depends upon what you're coming from and have been used to I guess.
Thanks for the insight. I really appreciate it.
Did you do any gaming with the BenQ and did you notice any blurring or motion issues compared with your IPS monitor?
Darn...was about to order off Amazon but they increased the price by $30...(and it's OOS atm).
the bigger pixels are actually one of the selling points for me. i have a 24" 1920x1200 screen as secondary and a 29" 2560x1080 primary and i must say i like the ppi on the 24" and would just like to have it bigger. will find out soon enough, it should be here tomorrow.
+1 here
My Dell 2407WFP-HC has served me well these last 7 years and I've wanted to get a bigger panel for over a year, this looks to me to cover all the bases I need covering at a price similar to what I paid for my Dell. Unfortunately I won't be in a position to buy it until November so with any luck it will be cheaper then.
Just to be clear, this monitor has identical PPI to a 24 inch 1080p monitor (that means a nearly imperceptible drop in PPI from Dell 24 inch 16:10 monitor... Couple with the fact that you will be sitting farther away it is a clear upgrade from that).
As a pc gamer I have zero interest in 4k because of the insane hardware needed to even reach a bare minimum 30 fps in modern games.
I will probably be putting in an order as soon as it dips to 700 on Amazon (mainly due to their customer service).
Hard to guess, you still haven't told us which Korean 30" you have, afaik. They pretty much all have negatives that 27" monitors don't, but they are bigger so... can't really argue with that. CCFL isn't hard on the eyes it's power hungry and gets hot. They all have big time input delay, too. But going to a 32" isn't going to give anything to really compare to there. You said it had better contrast and deeper blacks. Kinda to be expected. Not surprised you're returning it, actually. If you ever bought one. I'm suspicious since you have offered no pictures.
I also think the reason this was more an issue for me is I mainly do work, coding, photo stuff, etc on my monitors.
And the only game I even play is flight simulator....
Probably the main reason 4k is more up my alley. Other than gaming, lots of reasons for me personally to go that direction.
The problem there is we are at least 3 years (clearly a guess...but I am probably being generous) from having cost effective 30" 4K monitors. Those TN panels don't count at all as they are crap for color accuracy and viewing angles.
Since your goals are different, stick with your 30" until you feel comfortable purchasing a real 4K. For me, this 32 inch 1440p is exactly what I looking for when it comes to gaming.
For photos and things I will continue to use my Apple Cinema Display 27" which has a 109 PPI (I believe), which is as high as you can get right now without going 4K.
Currently, I only have the ACD and a single desktop. My plan is to split this and use a Macbook Pro with the ACD for all "productivity" activites and use this BenQ with my desktop purely for gaming. As soon as Apple refreshes the retina MBP I will put my plan into action.
I have a Crossover 3020mdp.
If you had searched my posts you'd see I have mentioned it before.
The CCFL is a non-issue and doesn't get particularly warm on my display.
Input delay I could care less about.
I seriously don't get you BlueSun.
You go from excited and praise to negative and attacking in seemingly a flash.
I had the monitor here, didn't like even grainier text and sent it back.
No big mystery here.
The BenQ is fine. Just a downgrade for my personal preference and usages and in comparison to what I already have sitting here.
...And just a thought, but maybe you should tone down your negative opinion of the Korean 30" monitors since you've admitted to never having even *seen* one in person!?
Nah, I won't until someone shows me a review on one that doesn't look like a snuff film. There isn't a single good pro review on any of them....And just a thought, but maybe you should tone down your negative opinion of the Korean 30" monitors since you've admitted to never having even *seen* one in person!?
dude, it's the internet, what would you expect?
thanks for your insights, i will hopefully post mine later on today when/if i get the screen.
Nah, I won't until someone shows me a review on one that doesn't look like a snuff film. There isn't a single good pro review on any of them.
Second, you had the monitor for less than a day, but you had Amazon overnight it to you? What a pointless review you've given us. You've been dancing around the question of what 30" you have for a couple days. I finally come out and ask and I should have searched your posts? lol. Your Crossover is CCFL with a grainy coating and probably peaks out at about 500:1 contrast ratio. But you sent back the BL3200PT because it makes text look funny and wasn't any better as far as you could tell than your IPS? Mk. Did you try to fix the text issue at all? Different input, different settings? Don't see that you could have spent enough time with the display to really give it any chance. You were pretty obviously going to send it back from the start. Thanks for the proof you bought it, though. A picture of the display would have been a lot more useful.
The problem there is we are at least 3 years (clearly a guess...but I am probably being generous) from having cost effective 30" 4K monitors. Those TN panels don't count at all as they are crap for color accuracy and viewing angles.
Since your goals are different, stick with your 30" until you feel comfortable purchasing a real 4K. For me, this 32 inch 1440p is exactly what I looking for when it comes to gaming.
For photos and things I will continue to use my Apple Cinema Display 27" which has a 109 PPI (I believe), which is as high as you can get right now without going 4K.
Currently, I only have the ACD and a single desktop. My plan is to split this and use a Macbook Pro with the ACD for all "productivity" activites and use this BenQ with my desktop purely for gaming. As soon as Apple refreshes the retina MBP I will put my plan into action.
I didn't I was trying to be polite. The fact you own and like your Korean 30" Wide-gamut CCFL display is already evidence enough that you don't know what to look for in monitors and were trying to save a buck and get as big a monitor as you could.If you think I'm so uninformed and have such poor taste and quality standards to be using a Korean monitor in the first place, I'm not sure why you wanted my opinion anyways?
I didn't I was trying to be polite. The fact you own and like your Korean 30" Wide-gamut CCFL display is already evidence enough that you don't know what to look for in monitors.
Then when you address my "concerns" and claim that the BL3200PT is "no better" than your Crossover 3020MDP I call bullshit.
You can scurry on away if it makes you less frustrated, or stay and "learn something" as you were talking about the other day, but I don't really care either way.
K now you're starting to get into the personal attack arena. So you might wanna go read the rules.
Like I said, welcome to [H], pal.
If you don't want to hear that your monitor isn't the right gamut for your video card that's fine. But it doesn't change the facts. If that's a bully to you, well... you should go back to grade school. Those kids just spit on you instead of informing you about your hardware.
I guess for coders and other software suites that rely on heavy text usage a smaller/1440p screen or a higher resolution monitor (4K) at 30/32" is more suitable. Since turbineseaplane mentioned he/she spends alot of time coding and working on photos I can see why the lower dpi can become an issue. Different requirements for different folks.
My Brother is has been using a 32" Sony TV as a monitor for nearly 2 years. He mostly games and watches movies. I had always thought it looked great but could never get passed the 1080p res. Since I've been using 1440p I could never go back to 1080p. I always wanted a 32" (at least 1440p) so I get the best of both worlds without sacrificing the res. Yes, the DPI is a little lower however for us who predominately game and browse the net and watch media the lower dpi should not be an issue.
After seeing this week what a glossy coating does for my perceived DPI at 1440p on 27" screens, I suspect grainy matte 30" 1600p pixels don't look that much smaller than the pixels on a 32" semi-gloss 1440p. It didn't occur to me that gamut makes little difference if you aren't actually looking at colors, but that is certainly true. My main argument against 30" monitors is that they are pretty much all wide gamut and it goes out the window if you aren't looking at anything but numbers and text. I really just wanted to see a lot of pictures of what this thing can do so if anyone could be so kind before they send their BL3200PT back take a shot or two of it on a black screen and put on a Disney movie or something for all of us poor salivating enthusiasts.
accroding to the shop, it's not there yet, but it's expected to be in today. that message may change though, not holding my breath
I guess for coders and other software suites that rely on heavy text usage a smaller/1440p screen or a higher resolution monitor (4K) at 30/32" is more suitable. Since turbineseaplane mentioned he/she spends alot of time coding and working on photos I can see why the lower dpi can become an issue. Different requirements for different folks.
My Brother is has been using a 32" Sony TV as a monitor for nearly 2 years. He mostly games and watches movies. I had always thought it looked great but could never get passed the 1080p res. Since I've been using 1440p I could never go back to 1080p. I always wanted a 32" (at least 1440p) so I get the best of both worlds without sacrificing the res. Yes, the DPI is a little lower however for us who predominately game and browse the net and watch media the lower dpi should not be an issue.
108.79 PPI, 0.2335mm dot pitch (27" 1440p)
91.79 PPI, 0.2767mm dot pitch (32" 1440p)
Thanks turbineseaplane for your feedback though. It has been helpful. One question I have; what are your thoughts on the LG 34UM95 in relation to the BenQ? Did you also return the LG too?
Going from 24" Dell you mentioned will also be getting lower pixels per inch with this panel, albeit not a huge drop, so hopefully it works out for you.