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Where are you getting the information that Xbox is its "third most profitable sector"? Do tell. Because the (actual) financials say otherwise.
In any case let's talk again on Thursday when the new financials are out.
But thiis:
It started off as "DirectX box"! Which was a better name than OpenGLbox... That generation X stuff was just marketing nonsense!
Yes, even though the hardware itself is probably not the most profitable thing, the games and services probably are... (especially with the ads and subscriptions...)
To bottomline the previous post and in case it wasn't obvious: Xbox360 (and PS3 even more so) have cost the company a NET LOSS since the inception of the device. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it is profitable.
How One of Microsoft's Greatest Consumer Successes Is a Financial Failure
Xbox 360 and PS3 losses total $8 billion, ex-Sony employee paints grim future
Yea uhh... not calling this person a liar but where did they receive that "actual net loss" numbers?
Second article sounds like a butt hurt ex-employee.
1. Microsoft's own S.E.C. Filings.
2. Not an ex-Microsoft employee making the statements, but a game developer that worked at multiple co's working on console titles.
I never get too hung up on any one particular article or analyst's assessment, but when many arrows begin pointing at the same thing there may be something to it. anyone can look up past quarterly disclosures and SEC filings and see for themselves.
Its just hard to believe so a company would hold onto something when tanking so bad.
Either way would explain the rumors on the subpar console hardware next round.
Companies that can afford it will take huge losses for very long periods of time if they have a bigger motivation. Sometimes it just needs to be done because the future is heading that way, think of electric cars, companies that do not offer anything may be locked out in bad ways in the future with now patents to bargain with. This is why MS is all in on mobile and not going to stop even if it kills them. The question really is, does the xbox still fit in MS long term plan?
Microsoft will sell its Xbox brand to "someone like Sony?" Ummm, this guy is smoking crack if he thinks that would ever happen. I had to double check the calendar to make sure it's not April 1st.
1. Microsoft's own S.E.C. Filings.
2. Not an ex-Microsoft employee making the statements, but a game developer that worked at multiple co's working on console titles.
I never get too hung up on any one particular article or analyst's assessment, but when many arrows begin pointing at the same thing there may be something to it. anyone can look up past quarterly disclosures and SEC filings and see for themselves.
True. All the financial/business sites will tell you that the Xbox was a horrible failure. "Overall, the Xbox group has lost $4 billion for Microsoft."
http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-microsoft-losses-on-xbox-2012-6
Its amazing that tools like this asshole who are probably sitting in front of their collective old PCs and masturbating to how amazing they think :inux is , get paid to make up utter nonsense.
they should be happy because in essence Microsoft wanted people to have videogame consoles so badly that they paid for at least half of it. Consumers have benefitted greatly - they should be writing thank you letters to MS on their finest stationary.
True. All the financial/business sites will tell you that the Xbox was a horrible failure. "Overall, the Xbox group has lost $4 billion for Microsoft."
http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-microsoft-losses-on-xbox-2012-6
I wonder how many billions Valve will lose with their console.
This business model isn't sustainable. That's why it took so long for MS and Sony to release new consoles.
It wasn't the studios that screwed over the PC as much as essentially the halt to advancing DirectX. This limited the hardware advancement for Graphics. Graphics improvements don't just require more horsepower in the card, they require new features to really make strides. Microsoft has stifled this for the PC helping to trap the situation of make for Xbox, port to PC.No they shouldn't, because Microsoft screwed over PC gamers to do it. They converted all their PC gaming studios into Xbox gaming studios, or just shut them down. They looked at games that were going to be for the PC from other developers, and made deals to make them Xbox exclusives. The best games on the Xbox, would have been PC games, if it weren't for the Xbox.
So as a Windows customer, I have not benefited from the Xbox. It's the exact opposite.
So not only did they screw over their Windows gamers, they lost money doing it.
At least Valve appreciates PC gamers, and are coming out with Steam on Linux.
How did this turn into apple losing? The hell does apple have to do with this article?