Yet another temp thread (E6600)

[Rudd]

I'm running my E6600 at stock settings and I wasn't too happy with the temperatures before so I thought I might've put on too much thermal paste.

Today I remounted my heatsink (TR Ultra-120 with Noctua NF-S12-1200) and applied thermal paste according to this "guide" http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appinstruct/as5/ins_as5_intel_dual_wcap.pdf

Now my temps are even worse, it's at 46/43 idle, and 58/57 load in TAT (after only like 30min)

Before it was at 45/43 idle and 57/55 load.

I know the paste needs a little time to break in, and that's what I thought was wrong with the temps before I remounted the heatsink, but they never changed even after several weeks at that temp.

There's really almost no improvement from the stock cooler, except like a degree or two off the idle temp.

So, are these temps normal, or should I try lapping the cpu/heatsink?

 

[rsgunter]

That's odd man, do you have good air flow inside your case save the noctua fan?

My Stacker at the time had excellent airflow and with an ultra 120 I was getting great temps.



That's 9 hours with Orthos, at roughly 50c. However stressing with TAT made them about 52 or something.

I applied my thermal paste a little differently than recommended, I covered the entire proc with as5, a VERY thin later.

TR has good factory finish, so I'd definitely wait on that as a last resort. If you still have issues contact TR, you may not have an exactly flat finish which you may want to check as well.

 

[Rudd]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the airflow tbh.

Just checked coretemp, it hits 59/58 after running TAT for 20min :x

Hm, btw, my VID in Coretemp is at 1.325v, isn't that kinda weird if you're able to run yours at 3.4ghz with 1.275v?

Although CPUZ and Everest reports the core to be at 1.272v. I'm confused.

EDIT: It only hits 54/52 while running Orthos =/

 

[ghost6303]

Now my temps are even worse, it's at 46/43 idle, and 58/57
Before it was at 45/43 idle and 57/55 load.

that difference in one degree isnt necessairily "worse" temps fluctuate single degrees all the time. you can leave your computer sitting there doing the same thing for a week strait the temps will constantly be changing, you could have opened a window or door, it might have been sunny one day and cloudy the next. any of these could explain a one degree difference.

thermal paste "breaks in" after a few dozen hours and a few power cycles, it takes a few days-a week under normal use, you will see temps drop 2-3 degrees after a week, not 10-15 degrees. pretty much the temp that you get when you put the paste on is what your going to get, plus or minus.

if you used that guide, are you sure you followed it correctly? do you know which way the cores are orriented on the chip and put the line strait across them? im guessing you may have put too much on still, try just putting a small bead in the middle and clamping the heatsink down ontop of it. the bead should be the size of a small BB. do not spread it out. also make sure your heatsink isnt hitting any caps on your motherboard near the socket.

VID in coretemp is your cpu's stock voltage. it is NOT the actual voltage, you can often undervolt these chips, or overclock without raising the voltage. you said CPUz reports your core voltage at 1.272? what is it set in bios? thats either alot of vdroop or your settings are not right.

 

[Rudd]

that difference in one degree isnt necessairily "worse" temps fluctuate single degrees all the time. you can leave your computer sitting there doing the same thing for a week strait the temps will constantly be changing, you could have opened a window or door, it might have been sunny one day and cloudy the next. any of these could explain a one degree difference.

thermal paste "breaks in" after a few dozen hours and a few power cycles, it takes a few days-a week under normal use, you will see temps drop 2-3 degrees after a week, not 10-15 degrees. pretty much the temp that you get when you put the paste on is what your going to get, plus or minus.

if you used that guide, are you sure you followed it correctly? do you know which way the cores are orriented on the chip and put the line strait across them? im guessing you may have put too much on still, try just putting a small bead in the middle and clamping the heatsink down ontop of it. the bead should be the size of a small BB. do not spread it out. also make sure your heatsink isnt hitting any caps on your motherboard near the socket.

VID in coretemp is your cpu's stock voltage. it is NOT the actual voltage, you can often undervolt these chips, or overclock without raising the voltage. you said CPUz reports your core voltage at 1.272? what is it set in bios? thats either alot of vdroop or your settings are not right.

I'm sure I applied the paste the way the guide said, with the cores and everything. Although, I didn't use quite as much, I made like a 1-2cm line instead. And I didn't spread it out, I just placed the heatsink directly on it.

All BIOS-settings are on auto, but I noticed that when the CPU isn't stressed the vcore in CPU-Z is up at 1.288V. Also, could you explain vdroop? :x

 

[>GSXR<mrbusa]

Auto settings are to make sure a new system will boot, period! Most of the problems related to a new systems instability are do to user error of not configuring there BIOS manually.
Once a system is booted for the first time then go into the BIOS and configure all relevant settings manually. You need to set the vcore to the reading CPUZ is giving you. That is the required vcore for stock clocks. Some chips will even run under the lowest recommended vcore. The vcore the BIOS is assigning is the max rated vcore for your chip. I am running a simple 3ghz OC on a e6600 until the as5 burns in and my vcore is set at 1.25 and runs full load at 41c with ambient temps of 70f with a zalman cnps9500

 

[Rudd]

Auto settings are to make sure a new system will boot, period! Most of the problems related to a new systems instability are do to user error of not configuring there BIOS manually.
Once a system is booted for the first time then go into the BIOS and configure all relevant settings manually. You need to set the vcore to the reading CPUZ is giving you. That is the required vcore for stock clocks. Some chips will even run under the lowest recommended vcore. The vcore the BIOS is assigning is the max rated vcore for your chip. I am running a simple 3ghz OC on a e6600 until the as5 burns in and my vcore is set at 1.25 and runs full load at 41c with ambient temps of 70f with a zalman cnps9500

You mind taking a few pics of your settings and posting them here? I'm very inexperienced at overclocking. :x