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BlackHawk22

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Is a X1900XTX ES (Engineering sample) from ATI direct better than a regular X1900XTX (No ES)? Worth more? More FPS? Beats a 7900GTX in price and performance?
 
Lots of variables here. ES might mean that the GPU is a cherry-picked golden sample, which would be nice for OCing. But if the card was actually used as a testbed or review sample, it might be thrashed, and there's no guarantee that their samples were cherry-picked.

Any X1900XTX will generally outperform any 7900GTX and have better image quality, but depending on the price, you might be better served by an 8800GTS 640MB, which has better performance and image quality than either of those.

If the ATi ES is $300 or more, the 8800GTS is a better buy. If they're offering it for down around $200-250 (and it isn't thrashed) it could be a sweet deal. The new 8800 GTS 320MB is nice, but probably would lose ground to the 512MB on the XTX in demanding newer games. Another variable is how much DX10 compatibility means to you, which might boost the attractiveness of the GTS 320.
 
If it's a straight-across trade and you trust the owner not to have thrashed the card, you'd probably be happy with the deal.
 
its with a guy who leads BFROE - and I verified he is selling it, and has pics, even a reciet with his ship to address on it...
 
BlackHawk22 said:
its with a guy who leads BFROE - and I verified he is selling it, and has pics, even a reciet with his ship to address on it...
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Sigh--I give... what does BFROE stand for? Best Friends Running On Ecstasy? Butt-Frakking Rhinos Over Europe?:confused:

ojibewa said:
no the card is not trashed, hell it's never even been clocked..

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9158287

:D :D
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I assume you're the owner, so please explain--why do you want to trade a faster card with better image quality for a lesser one? Lower heat/noise/powerdraw?
 
Battlefield Rules Of Engagement?

Sounds damn fishy to me who is the original owner of the card? This isnt something a consumer can just walk into BB and snatch up these are sent out to reviewers and developers to test and work with around release time.

Real question you need to ask is how he got his hands on it and why he is willing to downgrade to trade to you. Oh and ES cards also carry no warranty most of the time.
 
Also ojibewa that link shows us nothing whatsoever it dont even prove that your card is an XTX let alone an ES that has never been overclocked.

I did find this interesting however,
Video Memory 1024 MB
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Running 2 of them are ya? makes me really question wtf is going on with this guy.
 
pfunkman said:
Also ojibewa that link shows us nothing whatsoever it dont even prove that your card is an XTX let alone an ES that has never been overclocked.

I did find this interesting however,


Running 2 of them are ya? makes me really question wtf is going on with this guy.
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Mine shows as 1024 too, though it's only 512.
 
3dmark for some reason has always shown 1024 memory for this card..

BFROE - Battlefield Rules of Engagement www.bfroe.com

we work directly with EA/DICE in processing player and server reports direct to EA Customer Service..

yes the card is an ES, and has NEVER been clocked at all, there is a reason I cant go into why I need a DX10 card, but lets just say we also do alot of beta testing, but sorry but that would violate my NDA if I went any further in why I need it..

http://www.bfroe.com/confirm.JPG

I'm not hiding anything from anyone, I'm too well known in our community..

here is a recent PC Gamer article ( Jan 07 issue) about me and my program..

http://www.bfroe.com/pcgamer.jpg

normally I wouldnt go to such lengths to try and prove myself, but I do have a reputation to uphold..

thanks for the concern tho guys..

IndianScout
 
I didnt mean any personal disrespect to you at all i just think it sounded fishy and still does to me.

I understand you cant say why you need a DX10 card but if thats your need why trade it off for a DX9 card?!

Personally i wouldnt take the deal just based on warranty. That ES card has none whatsoever.
 
ojibewa said:
BFROE - Battlefield Rules of Engagement www.bfroe.com

we work directly with EA/DICE in processing player and server reports direct to EA Customer Service..

yes the card is an ES, and has NEVER been clocked at all, there is a reason I cant go into why I need a DX10 card, but lets just say we also do alot of beta testing, but sorry but that would violate my NDA if I went any further in why I need it..
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Ah, now I see--sorry, just way too many acronyms to keep track of anymore. So it's kinda like a human, moderated punkbuster? Good--trying to correct cheating and abuse of software with more software is insufficient, IMHO; the human touch is needed to ferret out the truth.

I just want to go on record, though, that I believe Butt-Frakkin' Rhinos Over Europe is a combat flight-sim that just cries out to be made....:)

As pfunkman points out, the 7900GTO is not a DX10 card--if that's what you're aiming for, you'll be disappointed.
 
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