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Worth 80$ ?

Originally posted by CoRPS
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/ex-wat-28.html

Think that is worth 80 bucks? Or just stay with a normal HeatSink and fan.
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Eh, I'm going to say ripoff. I don't think that thing could cool a CPU much better than a retail HSF, especially not for the price. I'll bet you 10 dollars if you buy a SP-94 plus a nice 92 MM panaflo, you'll have much better cooling than that, and at a cheaper price.

I think any water kit I've seen under $150 has been pretty bad, and for something like that you'd be way better off just getting good air cooling.

Just my two cents :p
 
not worth it, btw it says "super silent" but its rated at 32dBa
thats NOT silent btw :D
 
It has the 80mm fan which would make it not a silent cooling solution. Spend the money on a Thermalright SP-94 or Zalman 7000.
 
Originally posted by ST|FFY
not worth it, btw it says "super silent" but its rated at 32dBa
thats NOT silent btw :D
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HAHA

*hugs evercool fans on rad*
 
Cant remember if i saw a review for that specific one, but I think it was terrible. Google it.
 
Originally posted by ST|FFY
not worth it, btw it says "super silent" but its rated at 32dBa
thats NOT silent btw :D
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Not disagreeing with you about it's worth, but an empty room typically has a noise level of 30db. That's why recording studios spend so much on sound deadening ceilings/floors/walls.
 
Originally posted by Crapgame
Not disagreeing with you about it's worth, but an empty room typically has a noise level of 30db. That's why recording studios spend so much on sound deadening ceilings/floors/walls.
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an empty room makes noise? :confused:
 
Originally posted by jwill
an empty room makes noise? :confused:
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and i remember the review for it, they kinda liked it - but when compared to air, it wasn't much better, deffinitely not worth the price

just get a Zalman 7000Cu
 
Originally posted by thebro
http://www.freewebs.com/gantb/C4[decibel soun comparison chart].html

a little chart from my a site [not mine:(...ok it is:eek:]
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dead link, oh and it's bs an average room has 30dB, decibel is depending on how far from the object you are, up close 30dB is quite much don't know where you live(probably in the ghettos with loud gunshots and shit all the time) maybe then it's that loud at your place otherwise quite bs.
 
actually he is right, an empty room is about 30db. db is the measure of the logarithmic ratio between the input and output of a system. In terms of sound it refers to the intensity of sound waves at a given location, whether discernable or not sound waves do exist in an empty otherwise quiet room, your ears just cant hear them. It is also important to note that dB work on a logarithmic scale, 1dB = 10x the intensity. I don't know where you got the 'how far from an object' bit because the decibel system works for many more systems then audible sound ....

eg.

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14188/css/14188_50.htm

As for buying this $80 ghetto water cooling type thing. I would recomend against it, for that kinda money you could buy the top of the line air cooling setup, which I doubt could be beaten by this thing.
 
damn it

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Originally posted by HiTech-Hate
actually he is right, an empty room is about 30db. db is the measure of the logarithmic ratio between the input and output of a system. In terms of sound it refers to the intensity of sound waves at a given location, whether discernable or not sound waves do exist in an empty otherwise quiet room, your ears just cant hear them. It is also important to note that dB work on a logarithmic scale, 1dB = 10x the intensity. I don't know where you got the 'how far from an object' bit because the decibel system works for many more systems then audible sound ....
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Its actually +10dB = 10x the power, however in terms of perception, +10dB is only about double the volume.
 
Originally posted by NightRaven
Its actually +10dB = 10x the power, however in terms of perception, +10dB is only about double the volume.
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I thought I read somewhere that for every 3db increase, the perceived volume is doubled.

So for example, if one fan is 28db, then another fan rated at 31db will "seem" about twice as loud.

don't quote me on it though...but I do remember reading it somewhere in these forums....if only the search worked....:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by nst6563
I thought I read somewhere that for every 3db increase, the perceived volume is doubled.

So for example, if one fan is 28db, then another fan rated at 31db will "seem" about twice as loud.

don't quote me on it though...but I do remember reading it somewhere in these forums....if only the search worked....:rolleyes:
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yep, youre right. decibles are fucking logrithmic
 
so given that 30dBa is the norm for an empty room, and that a 3dBa increase is twice as loud, then that cooler would almost be twice the noise of an empty room correct? :confused:
 
Originally posted by RS3RS
Eh, I'm going to say ripoff. I don't think that thing could cool a CPU much better than a retail HSF, especially not for the price. I'll bet you 10 dollars if you buy a SP-94 plus a nice 92 MM panaflo, you'll have much better cooling than that, and at a cheaper price.

I think any water kit I've seen under $150 has been pretty bad, and for something like that you'd be way better off just getting good air cooling.

Just my two cents :p
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I agree.
 
Originally posted by ST|FFY
so given that 30dBa is the norm for an empty room, and that a 3dBa increase is twice as loud, then that cooler would almost be twice the noise of an empty room correct? :confused:
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i guess, which means my ~50dB tornado is almost 14times louder than an empty room..... (did i do that right?)

but then, an empty room isn't very loud in terms of what you hear, therefore, 2 x really little noise = not very loud (im just guessing here tho)
 
No. It's approximately 3dB per doubling in power. So 50 dB would be (50-30)/3 = 6 2/3 ---> 2^(6 2/3) or 102 times more powerful.

I reiterate that a doubling in power is not the same as doubling in percieved loudness though.
 
well damnit... if an empty room has 30db of sound I can't hear... Give me a 120mm 200CFM fan for my radiator that I can't hear either, and we'll be set :)
 
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we did a review on that a while back but it couldnt be completed b/c the thing would never work!

after hours of fixing it up and setting it up to work it ended up cooling as well as the stock hsf..!!!

we have experience with many watercooling systems but never tested one so horribly designed.
 
Originally posted by DiseasedCow
we did a review on that a while back but it couldnt be completed b/c the thing would never work!

after hours of fixing it up and setting it up to work it ended up cooling as well as the stock hsf..!!!

we have experience with many watercooling systems but never tested one so horribly designed.
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LOL - i new that thing looked like crap, hahaha, that is great
 
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