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Why is Intel dropping the Pentium name?
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UltimaParadox
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kumquat said:
Thats in retail stores, the only reason that is currently is due to the fact that the majority of 400 dollar boxes are AMD based boxes.
However as stated before this does not include the suppliers and OEM market, I mean with Dell still only selling Intel, that should say it all. Businesses want the intel name.
I knew something that lame was coming! Notice the exclamation point: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1546pxc said:
This person gets it!
Intel ran into this problem with 3GHz Celerons taking profits and sales away from 2.4 to 3GHz Pentiums and even complained about it on ZDNet. This is a real problem since in most cases a 3GHz Celeron is slower than those Pentiums mentioned. Folks here not truely understanding the the way Intel does it should go
here.
It actually had more to do with Intel's own low end models than anything AMD had or has. Same goes for Cedar Mill and etc......
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pxc said:Even with a label on the front of the computer stating "Intel Core Duo," Joe and Jane Consumer will still probably call it a Pentium. Think of the people who call all carbonated beverages "Coke".
Anyways, look at how quickly the Centrino branding was built up from nothing. The same thing will happen with Core Duo/Solo. Advertising works (er, pricing does too, explaining AMD's success in retail).
But Centrino, still has a Pentium M inside.
Even though most of them have a Centrino platform with wireless, no one actually calls them Centrino. Everyone I know, says.... my new laptop has got a Pentium M in it.
edit: to clarify what I was saying.
I don't understand how that relates to what you quoted. I said that a laptop with a Core Duo processor inside will still be called a "Pentium" by the average person.chrisf6969 said:
"Centrino Duo" laptops do not contain a Pentium. The Pentium name ended for mobile chips with the Dothan and "Mobile Pentium 4" (Prescott w/ and w/o HT) chips.
I'm assuming the Merom CPU will be branded the "mobile core duo" (or "mobile core solo" for single core versions) and the centrino duo/solo config specific branding will continue.
There needs two points to draw a line, three points to give a trend some meaning. There's no logical reason why Intel would have gone to Sextium or Sextium. That much was obvious when the Pentium Pro came out.
Pentium is likely a joining of "Penta" and the ending "ium" as an allusion to the word "millenium" - as in ushering in the millenium of the 586, or the third millenium 5 years ahead. Or maybe an allusion to chemical elements, that just make it sound cool.
Notice how Intel coined Xeon and Celeron[probably from latin "celeriter", meaning "quickly" or "fast"] with the "on" ending. Notice how AMD copied it with Athlon, Duron, Opteron, Sempron, Turion.
Ok, fast forward to the present. Core Solo, Core Duo. Now, say "Core" with a Spanish "C". Pause your breath before saying "Duo". Then, imagine Beavis and Butthead or whatever cartoon makes you giddy, repeating "Core", then "Duo", then "Core Duo" and back and forth. Pump your fists at chest level with elbows crooked at 90 degrees, upper arm flush with torso, cock your head downwards while looking up, and walk around your den saying "I want Core Duo for my lappy" in a high pitched whine if you still don't get what I mean. Umm..you might want make sure the coast is clear first.
So, I'm guessing the new trend will be ending "o", as in Core Quadro or Quattro, Core Octo, Core HexadecimO!!!! O yeah!
Pentium is likely a joining of "Penta" and the ending "ium" as an allusion to the word "millenium" - as in ushering in the millenium of the 586, or the third millenium 5 years ahead. Or maybe an allusion to chemical elements, that just make it sound cool.
Notice how Intel coined Xeon and Celeron[probably from latin "celeriter", meaning "quickly" or "fast"] with the "on" ending. Notice how AMD copied it with Athlon, Duron, Opteron, Sempron, Turion.
Ok, fast forward to the present. Core Solo, Core Duo. Now, say "Core" with a Spanish "C". Pause your breath before saying "Duo". Then, imagine Beavis and Butthead or whatever cartoon makes you giddy, repeating "Core", then "Duo", then "Core Duo" and back and forth. Pump your fists at chest level with elbows crooked at 90 degrees, upper arm flush with torso, cock your head downwards while looking up, and walk around your den saying "I want Core Duo for my lappy" in a high pitched whine if you still don't get what I mean. Umm..you might want make sure the coast is clear first.
So, I'm guessing the new trend will be ending "o", as in Core Quadro or Quattro, Core Octo, Core HexadecimO!!!! O yeah!
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^ lol! Probably.
Then again I'd hope they keep the gay Core Solo/Duo cherade to the 1 and 2 core chips, and have better names for the multi-core processors. Might not happen, but oh well, the name game dosn't influence what I buy, benchmarks and raw numbers influence what I buy ( High benchmarks, low price
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Then again I'd hope they keep the gay Core Solo/Duo cherade to the 1 and 2 core chips, and have better names for the multi-core processors. Might not happen, but oh well, the name game dosn't influence what I buy, benchmarks and raw numbers influence what I buy ( High benchmarks, low price
).Josh_B said:
If I were the IT guy at an office, I wouldn't touch AMD machines. Regardless if they are just as stable or not (I personlly don't believe the chipsets availible for AMD procs are quite as good as Intel + Intel solutions yet, but they are close....) the first time there was a problem, 80% of the managers out there would hang your ass out to dry for going with some 'unknown' company for the processors (well, if they even knew what was in them, but some secretary would raise some shit at least and it would work its way up).
Plus, P4s are just as fast as A64s in pretty much everything but gaming (and granted some science and 3D apps) but for 99% of the stuff a business machine is used for, it just isn't worth the risk.
Emission said:^ lol! Probably.
Then again I'd hope they keep the gay Core Solo/Duo cherade to the 1 and 2 core chips, and have better names for the multi-core processors. Might not happen, but oh well, the name game dosn't influence what I buy, benchmarks and raw numbers influence what I buy ( High benchmarks, low price
Well, maybe after Core Quadro/Tetro or whatever, they may start calling them a generic "Core Multo" = Many cores. OR. "Core Mucho". Much0 Cor0 does sound kinda cool.
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here's the difference. amd could make a processor based on 586 architecture, but lockheed martin wouldn't come along and produce their own version of the 747. the number 747 isnt trademarked, boeing 747 is.
That's exactly the contradiction from the PTO. No one else can make a "747" jet in the US because Boeing has a trademark on the number (and most likely 797). However when Intel tried to trademark i486 and 80486 (and higher designations), they were denied which led to the Pentium branding for their next CPU.santaliqueur said:
I don't expect you to remember the decision, but this was back to around 1989-1990. I do remember it.
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Josh_B said:1) Like AMD and Intel are going to clearly point out that "This processor sucks at data mining, but it's great at running ten pron streams at once!". Not. Gonna. Happen.
Marketing departments are populated with liars, err, I mean "Media Professionals" for a reason.
2) As others have said, Joe Blow needs a PC. Besides, everyone's an expert. Walk into any PC store and listen to Tom telling Dick and Harry that "Pentiums are much better for gaming... you don't want one of those ADM CPUs." Consumers are already confused. What difference does it make attaching a number drawn from thin air to the CPU?
Lol!
. I'd be willing to bet that you can stick any computer illiterate person in the marketing department, tell them what to sell, and they'll sell it better than any "professional" before them, lol. Sadly, if you dont know squat about computing, your bound to get ripped off at some point. Unfortunately there are very few who offer Joe Blow a computer thats worth every penny.