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It's the timing of the thread is the problem. You are just after buying a 780 lightening and opened a thread on it and praised it to the highest, which is fine. Then you open a thread on the 290x/290 and run them into the ground. You claim most reviews have lambasted AMD for having an inferior product, yet, most sites that I have read have given the cards awards. In fact, the cards are so good that it made Nvidia drop prices by a lot, something which I haven't seen Nvidia do ever before.
You and others also say the cards have no overclocking room, yet, the 290x seems to do very well on overclocking sites, breaking world records and all. Which shows that there is plenty of overclocking headroom there.
You and Xoleras keep coming back, making the same comments, saying the same thing over and over and over and over. But, and this is the thing that is annoying people on this thread and getting you both labelled as NVidia fanboys, is that you refuse to listen to people who actually have the card. You also completely choose to ignore the opinions of the two people here who have reviewed the card, Brent and Kyle.
Also if you check Guru3d, they do sound checks in a closed PC case, noise level 43dBA for the 290x and 40 dBA for the 780. Most other sites do the sound checks on an open bench.
Also the smoothness that someone mentioned earlier was about crossfire and sli. Here is the quote from the review here
"A very important note to make, while the performance shown there shows the framerate, it does not relate the smoothness and feel of the game. In this, AMD Radeon R9 290X CrossFire was a lot smoother in Far Cry 3. We found that with both TITAN SLI and 780 SLI there was an extreme choppiness and stutter to the game. Whereas, with R9 290X CrossFire, it was a smoother experience. So far, in each game, a pattern is forming favoring CrossFire for smoothness on R9 290X CrossFire"
I would like to see those 50 website reviews showing huge performance loss. As above, most sites gave both cards awards. You keep harping on about things, but, the performance on quiet mode is roughly between a 780 and a Titan for the 290x. Which is pretty damn good.
And as well as that, noise is completely subjective, for me the guru3d website does the most accurate noise tests. They use DBA weighting, put the cards inside a case and generally makes it most like what it would be a real world situation.
And no you don't have to own a card to say what ever you want about it. Sure, but, YOU keep ignoring every owner of the cards in this thread. A couple have even posted benchmarks and their own results to backup their arguments, but you still ignore them. You have to take their opinion into account as well. Since you don't have a card you can't say they are wrong.
Sure the cooler could have been better, but, it seems to be doing the job for most people who have the card. It's also a blower cooler, which is getting the heat outside of the case.
The power use, 40 watts? is that a big deal? Not really.
But I think most people, I know I am, are fed up to the teeth of reading the exact same comments from you time after time. WE get it, you don't like the cooler and aren't going to buy the card. If it upsets you that much write to AMD and complain to them.
