Which would you recommend?

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Limp Gawd
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Here's a fun question for everyone to discuss. Let me preface it with the situation, and then you guys can tell me what you think.

I built a little home system from my best friend a couple of years ago. At the time all he said he needed it for was a little email, web surfing, and MS Office/word processing work. At the time money was a factor, so the component list was comprised mostly of "Hot deals/Fry's specials", and stuff on the cheap from the local compuer flea market. ( For you Dallas'ites - 1st Saturday ). Nothing snappy,snazzy,or extremely fast. Just enough to get the job done. A ECS board, AMD Duron 1.6, 256MB of memory, 80G HDD, CDR/RW, and a 9200SE. Since then the box has happily hummed along, doing the work it was tasked to do.

The other day his house took a huge power spike. (lighting strike) He brought the comp to me yesterday, thinking the PSU was fried. After troubleshooting the problem for a few minutes it became apparent the PSU was fine, but the mobo was toast. I gave him his options: purchase the same mobo, and recover to the same state in a very short time frame, or this would be a perfect opportunity to upgrade to something faster. >:)

He had mentioned a couple of months ago that he was interested in upgrading the processor and ram, so this time around he said money wasn't such a neccessary factor. Upgrading the CPU, mobo, ram, and HDD were the preferred action. His only need is to have the system ready by this weekend. I told him it shouldn't be a problem to round up the hardware in a relativey short time frame.

I'm still on somewhat of a budget, so I'll be perusing the "Hot deals" thread as well as the local Fry's sales. I'll be throwing in a gig of ram, and moving the HDD(s) over to a SATA solution.

As far as CPU/Mobo choices go I've always been a Intel !!!!!!. I've spent many a hour/day/year building systems, and have always felt that solution ( at least back in the day ) provided a more stable platform. I only used AMD based hardware where cost was more of a factor.

Here's the question:

Considering the current state of hardware which would you recommend?

1. Intel based CPU/Mobo platform.
2. AMD based CPU/Mobo platform.

His needs are still roughly the same, with some newer requirements. The new machine will not be used as a gaming rig. He's not much of a player, and it's only his younger brother in-law that plays games on the box. Nothing graphics intensive (no FPS games), only stuff like Command & Conquer, Baldaur's Gate, and Diablo II. He will, however, being using it for more multimedia purposes than previous. Listening to music, digital photography work/storage, and graphic design work for the restaurant he manages.

Overclockability is not needed. Stability is the requirement.

Thoughts?
 
There are no stability issues with AMD.
Mobo: Asus, Epox, Gigabyte or MSI
Socket: 754 or 939 (AMD). I think for his needs, 754 will be more than enough, but it does lack some things 939 has (namely dual channel ram and future upgradibility). Check on the price differences between processors and motherboards, if not much, go for 939.
 
I would recommend replacing anything in the system. Lightning strikes are very wierd on how they can damage a system. I've seen a lightning strike take out the onboard sound, had the system run fine for a month, then random vid card lock ups. You're taking a pretty good chance of any of the old hardware in it just up and dieing for no apparent reason if you do leave them in the system.
 
I saw a thread in the "Hot deals" forum for a Fry's special. A AMD Athlon ( not Sempron ) 64 3000+ OEM with Mobo for $129. It's an ECS NForce3-A mobo, socket 754. For the price, I don't think I can beat it. I also picked up 1 Gig dual channel of Kingston DDR400 value ram for $79 AR. He's not going to overclock it, so I don't see the need to buy low latency stuff. It should do just fine. I also picked up a 120GB WD SATA HDD for $49 AR. I added a Zalman HSF for under $30. All in all, before MFR, I spent $390 of his money. ( heh ). After the rebates it'll be closer to $300. For that price he's getting something WAY better than his previous rig, and has something that can actually perform with some decent capability for his needs. :cool:
 
Since it s754, the RAM won't run in dual channel... but hey, it's still a gig :)
 
Dual channel on an AMD64 doesn't increase performance much, think I read @ Anandtech about 4%....

Having 1 Mb of L2 cache on die versus 512 Kb can counter that with 6-8% performance increase.

Dual channel on nforce 2 makes a bit more difference giving end user up to 10% increase.
 
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