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What will you do if ?

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micah

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Howdy All
This is really for the ATI FanBoys I guess.
What will you do in a few months or Weeks when ATI comes out with their new cards ? If they are faster than the NVIDIA cards I have no problem figuring out what you would do as you would go with the new ATI cards.

But what will you do if the new ATI cards can not touch the new NVIDIA cards ? Many of you for the past year or 2 have done nothing but talk bad about NVIDIA. Are you that shallow that you would all of a sudden be switching over just because they are the leader again ?
Or would you stand by ATI like a lot of people done with NVIDIA ? Many still went with NVIDIA because they was both loyal and likes them. Others left like rats off a sinking ship just because the other brand got a few more fps in games and such.

So what will you be doing ?
 
i dunno, this is just a guess.

but im guessing the die hard ati fans (trying to stay away from the word fanboy) would either:

1. just buy the best card
2. buy a ati card and hope for optimizations that they critisize nvidia for
3. just wait for quarter 3 of 04 to deside again.

but this is going to be a close battle so i dont see fanboyism dying anytime soon

Originally posted by micah

So what will you be doing ?
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i will be buying the best card in june.
 
Originally posted by micah
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I dislike Nvidia and their business practices over the last couple of years but i buy what’s best for me. I will get whatever appeals to be more and if they end up being the same price/performance then i guess i might go with ATI.
 
I rember a report comeing out about Nvidia useing there firmware to inflate to scores, this could be whats going on now but i wouldnt be sure becouse i have not read alot about the new Nvidia cards but i as sure that ATI has some thing just waiting to come out that will proform at the same level.
 
i buy whichever performs better AND looks better with assumption such that they are same price. :eek:
 
I have owned Nvidia card from the TNT line and up, my current rig sports a softmoded 9500 from ATI, my first since prior to the TNT.

I'm not very fond of Nvidia's past and am kinda paranoid as to what kind of company they really are. That being said I'm not due for a new card as of right now, and will not purchase either of the flagships models ever . I am perfectly happy to live with a lesser model that will give me a good bang for the buck value and improve on what I have right now. If it's a close call in the mid high level cards I will go with ATI if it has has feature and value for at least 12 months of usage. If I feel Nvidia has changed their approach on certain issue's that concern me and they offer the best bang for the buck then I will purchase their product.

I don't sleep with either of the CEO's wives so my priorities are me and my wallet.
 
Are you that shallow that you would all of a sudden be switching over just because they are the leader again ?
Or would you stand by ATI like a lot of people done with NVIDIA ? Many still went with NVIDIA because they was both loyal and likes them. Others left like rats off a sinking ship just because the other brand got a few more fps in games and such.
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Hear that guys? We're all shallow for picking a card based solely on performance. It sounds like we should become true, loyal computer enthusiasts and stick with a company, whether they sell us crap or not.

I was excited as the next guy about the launch of the nv40, but the forums have been filled with the rants of rabid fanboys lately. I love to game, but I just can't understand the emotional investment people are making in these products. Are you loyal to your toaster or your washer? Video cards are just appliances to make our games look better and run faster. That's why I'll be "shallow" and pick the one that does the best at just that... making my game run better.
 
I'll buy the better card, whenever I find the need (though this 9600xt I have is getting the job done)

next time, try a little harder with the flame bait.

:tard:
 
This is my opinion and my opinion only but anyone who buys anything but the best performing and highest quality vid card for there cash (this is only true if they are priced similar) at the time is an idiot and I do not use that word lightly, Why bother spending massive amounts of cash on something which is second best to a similar priced better peforming component, thats just stupid.

Brand loyalty to either Nvidia or ATI is not something I think any one should believe in as they all play the same games and they only care about the bottom line, on a moral standpoint ATI have built themselves a trustworthy reputation over the last couple of years while Nvidia have soiled theres considerably mainly with there marketting tactics and various driver hacks to remove functions and inflate performance.

I personally do not have the extra capital to be able to afford to buy the second best card just because of there past reputation and some corrupt sense of loyalty, I buy whats best and am happy with my decision.

Edit: in 2 months when everything has died down I will know which card to buy and it could be either.
 
Originally posted by _Sin_
I'll buy the better card, whenever I find the need (though this 9600xt I have is getting the job done)

next time, try a little harder with the flame bait.

:tard:
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It was not flame bait from me at all
:Tard

It was just me asking what the ones who in the past year or 2 have talked so bad. I could go back and drag up old post where some said they they would never buy a NVIDIA card again.
My point in very simple. Now that it looks like NVIDIA will have at least as good if not better of graphic cards will they keep to what they have been saying and stick with ATI.

I also want the best card for the money I have to spend. I have said on these forums and others that it has just happened to work out at the time that I have always been with NVIDIA. If like when I got this 5900XT the ATI cards at the same price was better I would be using the ATI ones. But at the time I got it the ATI cards that could compete with it was $50 + More than this card. When your on a fixed income like myself that $50 means a lot.
 
Nvidia did suck bad, they did deserve every bad thing said about them. But fanboyism sucks. It looks like that Nvidia got it's shit back together and is using hardware to sell hardware instead of cheating and lies.

I am sure they could give a shit less if you stuck with them through the tough times.

It's not like Nvidia is a priest that touched your no no spot. Or, once you go black you can never go back.

ati fanboys = nvidia fanboys = irrational idiots
 
Originally posted by micah
Howdy All
This is really for the ATI FanBoys I guess.
What will you do in a few months or Weeks when ATI comes out with their new cards ? If they are faster than the NVIDIA cards I have no problem figuring out what you would do as you would go with the new ATI cards.

But what will you do if the new ATI cards can not touch the new NVIDIA cards ? Many of you for the past year or 2 have done nothing but talk bad about NVIDIA. Are you that shallow that you would all of a sudden be switching over just because they are the leader again ?
Or would you stand by ATI like a lot of people done with NVIDIA ? Many still went with NVIDIA because they was both loyal and likes them. Others left like rats off a sinking ship just because the other brand got a few more fps in games and such.

So what will you be doing ?
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If they stay with ATi and think in their minds the NVIDIA is better, they are idiots. Brand loyalty is hilarious. It's as if they think ATi would come to their houses and help them in times of need. LOL.
 
Originally posted by creedAMD
Nvidia did suck bad, they did deserve every bad thing said about them. But fanboyism sucks. It looks like that Nvidia got it's shit back together and is using hardware to sell hardware instead of cheating and lies.

I am sure they could give a shit less if you stuck with them through the tough times.

It's not like Nvidia is a priest that touched your no no spot. Or, once you go black you can never go back.

ati fanboys = nvidia fanboys = irrational idiots
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so then creed = irrational idiot?

ATi has sucked worse than NVIDIA the past 5 years. ATi *still* doesn't have their shit together with drivers. I still use 3.7 on my 9800P. Every new driver breaks new shit.
 
Originally posted by rackus
I dislike Nvidia and their business practices over the last couple of years but i buy what’s best for me. I will get whatever appeals to be more and if they end up being the same price/performance then i guess i might go with ATI.
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What's wrong with their business practices? ATi uses the same tricks. So does Intel. So does AMD. Companies want to be number 1. ATi is not a bunch of sweet, ethical guys looking out for you and just wanting to give you the best. They are about THEMSELVES, which is fine, because they aren't a charity. Business practices, lol.
 
Originally posted by evilchris
so then creed = irrational idiot?

ATi has sucked worse than NVIDIA the past 5 years. ATi *still* doesn't have their shit together with drivers. I still use 3.7 on my 9800P. Every new driver breaks new shit.
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I hope you wasn't so bad in math in school. I must have hit a weak spot in you. Do you even understand what a fanboi is, if not skip all of the good rational posts and just read your own, it will get real clear, then the solution of the math problem will be clear.
 
Originally posted by evilchris
What's wrong with their business practices? ATi uses the same tricks. So does Intel. So does AMD. Companies want to be number 1. ATi is not a bunch of sweet, ethical guys looking out for you and just wanting to give you the best. They are about THEMSELVES, which is fine, because they aren't a charity. Business practices, lol.
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Do you have a big N on your chest? You remind me of a superhero, out to save the day.
 
Originally posted by creedAMD
Do you have a big N on your chest? You remind me of a superhero, out to save the day.
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You remind me of an ATi PR dweeb, shitting his pants.
 
Originally posted by evilchris
What's wrong with their business practices? ATi uses the same tricks. So does Intel. So does AMD. Companies want to be number 1. ATi is not a bunch of sweet, ethical guys looking out for you and just wanting to give you the best. They are about THEMSELVES, which is fine, because they aren't a charity. Business practices, lol.
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Because ATi apologized for what they did, and Nvidia sued instead.

I'll buy whatever is best, and I will be jumping onto this generation. I'll wait 2 months though. Prices only go down. If they're equal, I'll stay ATi, since my other systems run it.
 
I buy the best card of the time, and then support that company for the time being. So if Nvidia is better and I have the money I would buy their card.
 
I'll buy whichever one is better, and I'm desperate for a card so its definitely either going to be a 6800 or a x800.

The Pixel and vertex shader speed using shadermark 2.0 is very impressive for the 6800 compared to the 9800. http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD03NDcmdXJsX3BhZ2U9MTg=

Its still missing some standard lighting functions (I think they are phong spot and AF) but the other scores really tend to make me look the other way. Nvidia seems to have adopted some sort of propreitary localized lighting setup. I'm a little confused though, I'm assuming those are all base tests that are needed to be considered fully Pixel and Vertex Shader 2.0 compliant?

Peformance at 1600x1200 (and even above) is paramount. No sense wasting a perfectly good 2048x1536 capable monitor. I'd like to see 32xAF as an option, and see little value in going over 6xAA, so the current problem that the 6800 has with 8xaa will be of little consequence.

From what I have seen, Nvidia's optimized Trilinear seems passable to me. True trilinear is always nice though.
 
I seriously doubt that ATI's new card will be MUCH slower than the 6800u. Even if it is, it's not going to make a big enough of a difference to be worth arguing.

Also, their prices are always similar, so that's no going to be an issue either.

What will finalise my decision are the drivers. I personally had better luck with ATI cards. They always worked the way I wanted them and up until now, had better 2D quality. I know people will say 'who cares about 2D, 3D is MUCH more important.' That might be true, but I spend more time in windows than playing games. Plus, the difference in quality was noticable on my monitor.

I gave ATI and nvidia cards a fair chance. ATI just happened to work out better for me than nvidia. Does that make me an 'ATI' fanboy? LOL, I hope not. I just chose what was better for myself.

We'll see what ATI has to offer in a couple of months. My guess is that it will be very similar to the nvidia cards (as usual) and we'll have flame threads posted all over the net (again).

I say, pick what suits you better, and not whose company logo is on the retail box.
 
Peformance at 1600x1200 (and even above) is paramount. No sense wasting a perfectly good 2048x1536 capable monitor.
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Unfortunately most games I've been playing simply do not have rendering options above 1600x1200. As much as I'd like to try out 1840x1440x85Hz on my Sony, I can't with any game I've currently got installed, not without editing some .ini at the very least.
 
Originally posted by zoltan
Well i know you weren't so good in english :rolleyes:
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*english.

lol...

edit *I

edit2 *Well,



Oh the irony. The n00b's make it so easy.

It's almost like Duck[H]unt2k4
 
Originally posted by ZenOps
I'll buy whichever one is better, and I'm desperate for a card so its definitely either going to be a 6800 or a x800.

The Pixel and vertex shader speed using shadermark 2.0 is very impressive for the 6800 compared to the 9800. http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD03NDcmdXJsX3BhZ2U9MTg=

Its still missing some standard lighting functions (I think they are phong spot and AF) but the other scores really tend to make me look the other way. Nvidia seems to have adopted some sort of propreitary localized lighting setup. I'm a little confused though, I'm assuming those are all base tests that are needed to be considered fully Pixel and Vertex Shader 2.0 compliant?

Peformance at 1600x1200 (and even above) is paramount. No sense wasting a perfectly good 2048x1536 capable monitor. I'd like to see 32xAF as an option, and see little value in going over 6xAA, so the current problem that the 6800 has with 8xaa will be of little consequence.

From what I have seen, Nvidia's optimized Trilinear seems passable to me. True trilinear is always nice though.
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ShaderMark is being updated. I read it has some sort of problem with the 6800 as the card didn't exist at the last build. All the tests are said to run on the update.
 
Originally posted by lopoetve
Because ATi apologized for what they did, and Nvidia sued instead.

I'll buy whatever is best, and I will be jumping onto this generation. I'll wait 2 months though. Prices only go down. If they're equal, I'll stay ATi, since my other systems run it.
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Apologies? LOL! I am sure they were VERY sorry....



that they got caught! An apology from a corporation means nothing.
 
I'm looking forward to editing the ini files to unlock the high resolutions.

In preparation, I'm even scouring google and momma looking for ways to unlock old engines :)
 
Actually guys Nvidia apologized [don't remember why exactly, but I remember it was recently...maybe QuakeCon?],

And I don't want apologies, they're just excuses, I want them [them being BOTH Ati and Nvidia] to stop acting like fucking turds.
 
I'm just replying to the first post, I'm a semi-fanboy of ATi.


XGI VOLARI DUO!
 
Originally posted by evilchris
Apologies? LOL! I am sure they were VERY sorry....



that they got caught! An apology from a corporation means nothing.
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Yes, but they DID do it. They didn't try to sue the company out of existance.
 
Nvidia has been trigger happy on the big red SUE button.

An apology after the fact means nothing really, you could have been court-ordered to apologize afterall (sounds like a judge judy thing, but it does happen in real life)

Both ATi and NVidia lie though, not much worse than Intel or AMD, or anyone else in the industry.
 
owned ATI cards for 6 years now Loved them never had a problem with them.And will buy them again no matter how fast the Geforce cards are;)
I just dont feel the need to brag about 3dwank scores i just want a card that looks and works good and thats ATI for me F^ck nvidia:p
6800 fanboy disclaimer(my opinion above Your opinions may vary:p );)
 
lol @trapine
at least your loyal

ill be waitin till june to make my choice on ati or nvidia.
 
lol @trapine
at least your loyal
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Lol to me thats what its about;) I dont care if brandX gets 60000 raw benchmarks in 3dmark or AM3.If i have brought said brand for x amount of time, and never had a problem with it. does everything plus some for the money i payed.Then i will stay with that company Unless they make a total and utter stinker which ATI has yet to do from the ones i have brought.
But if they do then i guess i will have to go NVIDIA (SHUDDERS IN FEAR LOL:eek: )J/K
 
^^ Ok admit it, Geforce 6800 ultra is an awesome card. And it is not that ATI did not have faults their drivers when Radeon 8500 was released were pathetic at the least.

But they scored with Radeon 9700 pro which is still an awesome card after like what 2 years !!

In a way I hope that ATI can narrow the diff now to improve competition, but I doubt if it achieve a lead over this card.
 
if the ATI high end solution uses less power, (one molex) then I will buy it. hopefully it has 2 DVI ports, you honkies and your CRTs need to upgrade.

if not, then I'll probably buy whichever is better.
 
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