Used Xeon pricing?

[MahoganySoapbox]

Why is it some 'modern' E5-16**v3 processors are cheaper out in the used markets than the E3-12**v2?

Is this a Supply & Demand issue where the older Ivy Bridge units aren't circulating, or does it have to do with the higher expense of 2011-3 boards reducing interest?

 

[Trimlock]

Do you have any examples?

The cheaper ones are usually lower clocked cores for thermal and energy conservation purposes. Performance per core on those are pretty bad but they offer bulk cores for small packages and make great virtualization environments on the cheap.

 

[Kirika]

Used Xeon pricing is largely dependent on servers and workstations going off corporate lease or companies upgrading their servers so used xeons getting dumped into the market at which time the used low end and mid range processors have a large drop in price. The high end still tends to retain a higher price. Once supply of used processors from retired or upgraded servers dries up the price climbs a bit.

 

[MahoganySoapbox]

Do you have any examples?

E3-1240v2 can go for $150-$200 on EBay
E5-1603v3 can go for $100'ish

 

[defaultluser]

E3-1240v2 can go for $150-$200 on EBay
E5-1603v3 can go for $100'ish

My guess would be:

E3-1240v2 is clocked higher, and provides an inexpensive route for owners of 1155 systems to upgrade to 8 threads. The specs are similar to a 2600k without the roughly 30-50 dollar overclockers premium

The E5-1603v3 is clocked lower, requires a more expensive 2011 motherboard, and 4 cores/8 threads was really the entry-level processor on the platform. If people upgrade at all, it would be to 6 cores.

Finally, the first 2011 systems didn't sell all that well because people held onto their x58 systems until Haswell-E offered the cheap 6 core (and high-end 8 cores). So I wouldn't expect there to be a lot of used motherboards for sale - people will have to buy the system as a whole.

 

[Trimlock]

E3-1240v2 can go for $150-$200 on EBay
E5-1603v3 can go for $100'ish

That's like super low end for E5's, it's an i5 equivalent on the 2011 platform.

 

[MahoganySoapbox]

Yeah, but as I did more research it appears the 1603v3 & 1607v3 are the budget Xeons and I was simply ignorant of that in comparison of models.

They are 4c4t with lower clocks & no boost, vs. the 4c8t & boosting of the 1240v2. That does seem like an appropriate price discrepancy upon further consideration. Although the ability to use greater than 32gb of Ram, DDR4 as well, is nice.

 

[Levelog]

In addition to that there are a lot more offlease servers running 2011 sockets than 1155 I'd imagine. Something in 1155 is a great drop in replacement for a low end i5 someone may have, or an i3. Higher demand and all. Plus you can go with so many more cores on 2011.

 

[Trimlock]

Yeah, but as I did more research it appears the 1603v3 & 1607v3 are the budget Xeons and I was simply ignorant of that in comparison of models.

They are 4c4t with lower clocks & no boost, vs. the 4c8t & boosting of the 1240v2. That does seem like an appropriate price discrepancy upon further consideration. Although the ability to use greater than 32gb of Ram, DDR4 as well, is nice.

Right, these are special ordered peices of equipment for a very specific use. I'd rather snag an E5-2670 for $90 honestly

 

[arestavo]

I snagged a 1650V2 (6C 12T - basically a higher quality 4930K) for $370 - not bad considering it really only cost me $120 after I sold my 3930K. It overclocks like a champ and runs much cooler to boot (4.5GHz at +100 offset (1.43V showing in BIOS) and only 65C using big air in Prime95 - and I've no idea how is isn't running hotter than that other than it is just that much higher quality silicon).