Thinking getting Thermaltake Big water SE as my first WC kit

DFI Daishi said:
okay then. no, i have not used a thermaltake bigwater kit of any sort.

every thermaltake product that i have ever had the misfortune of being near while it was running was cheaply built and much louder than advertised. i won't buy a thermaltake product anytime in the near future because of their track record.

so, would you be honest and tell me if you have used a well put together watercooling kit, to give you a good basis for comparison to the bigwater?
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To be honest i never used any other water cooling kit.
 
annaconda said:
To be honest i never used any other water cooling kit.
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so then, your basis for comparison is air cooling, and the Tt bigwater does better than the air cooling you have tried.

that is fair, i just wanted to be clear that you did not have the experience to say that in your particular case going from premium gear to a bigwater did not negatively impact you performance. this is the argument that some prominant A-C users put forward.

to be fair, your kit performs on par with A-C gear, but costs a whole lot less.

also to be fair, i consider that to be a compromised level of performance.

i hope that one day you put yourself together a really nice custom loop, just so that you can appreciate the differences between the premium brands and Tt. it's not always a big deal in terms of raw temps, but the gear has a really solid and well built look, feel and heft to it in person.

of course, well before that, i hope that you get that ultra PSU out of there, just for the long term saftey of your hardware, but that's another issue.
 
sabrewolf732 said:
The newer ultras are actually manufactured by a well respected 3rd party, wintech.
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ah......no more dipping below 3 volts on the 3.3 rail when running heavy load then?
 
DFI Daishi said:
ah......no more dipping below 3 volts on the 3.3 rail when running heavy load then?
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Yeah, their old units were crappy. Forgot who made them.
 
sabrewolf732 said:
Yeah, their old units were crappy. Forgot who made them.
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The old 2004 X-Connect's are made by Wintech.
The 2005 X-connects are made by Taiwan YoungYear.
The old, and new, x-finities are made by Wintech.
The X2-connect's are made by Wintech.
 
Bbq said:
The old 2004 X-Connect's are made by Wintech.
The 2005 X-connects are made by Taiwan YoungYear.
The old, and new, x-finities are made by Wintech.
The X2-connect's are made by Wintech.
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Yeah, the young years were bad.
 
DFI Daishi said:
just to note: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=792566&highlight=reccomended+PSU

is one of the things that i generally look at when i seen a PSU that is not familiar to me.

my enermax server supply has severed me very well, and i'd be prohibitively expensive to get a zippy up here, and fortrons are few and far between. PCP&C........that'd run as much as the video card upgrade that i want but can't afford to get.
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Zippy, I've never seen in Canada.
Fortron, try NCIX.
PCP&C, Never seen here.

Where in canada do you live?
 
This thread reads like "Which is faster, a Corvair or a Vega?"
These low price/easy install kits do what they're supposed to do...cool a stock CPU/GPU..
Other higher priced/harder to install/more efficient user assembled systems will overclock much higher.
 
billb said:
This thread reads like "Which is faster, a Corvair or a Vega?"
These low price/easy install kits do what they're supposed to do...cool a stock CPU/GPU..
Other higher priced/harder to install/more efficient user assembled systems will overclock much higher.
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Not neccesarily, they actually cool a bit better than good air that you can oc with. But with great water, you can get that custom factor and a level of quality you can't get with a pre configged kit.Along with quietness and unparralelled temps (excluding subambient cooling of course)
 
DFI Daishi said:
so then, your basis for comparison is air cooling, and the Tt bigwater does better than the air cooling you have tried.

that is fair, i just wanted to be clear that you did not have the experience to say that in your particular case going from premium gear to a bigwater did not negatively impact you performance. this is the argument that some prominant A-C users put forward.

to be fair, your kit performs on par with A-C gear, but costs a whole lot less.

also to be fair, i consider that to be a compromised level of performance.

i hope that one day you put yourself together a really nice custom loop, just so that you can appreciate the differences between the premium brands and Tt. it's not always a big deal in terms of raw temps, but the gear has a really solid and well built look, feel and heft to it in person.

of course, well before that, i hope that you get that ultra PSU out of there, just for the long term saftey of your hardware, but that's another issue.
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I'll be able to offer a good comparison of premium air to cheap watercooling, because I'm tired of my XP-120 that seriously sucks (panaflo 120mm fan, getting 38c idle 58c load, 3800X2 @ 2.6). We'll see how the Bigwater SE handles it.

I just need a temp probe, fucking Fry's doesn't sell one :(
 
This has been reported as a problem, I failed to listen and used two of them one which failed. I think the acrylic is just not good quality. Does not mean their other parts such but the blocks do.
 
I have a big water SE and a TT VGA cooling block with Zalaman heat sinks on the memory chips, in the same loop. It seems decent. But after running it for 3 months, it performs ok but I think a custom build would have been the way to go. The BigWater's reservoir is kinda a pain to refill(unscrew holder pull out, etc). I had some debris(lack of what it really was) show up in the loop recently. Should have flushed the system before running it. But that was the only issue I have had. I idle @ 31 and max @ 42. Bigwater SE is a good learning system for water cooling but beyond that I feel a custom build would have been much better. To sum up I have really had no problems with it except the debris. Hope you enjoy your Bigwater and that is runs smoothly.

Oh yeah and a Flow indicator might be a good idea.

/wink
 
probably algae, it is probably time to flush your loop. I had a exos 1 for my beginning water cooling days. Now I (will have a storm on monday). :D Also I had to flush my exos everyonce in awhile as well (actually everyone flushes their system everyonce in awhile, I hope :eek: ).

Sidecomments, the exos block did very good, it was constructed well and still works after 2 years. No cracks or anything.

Anyways I put the sucker on a p4 3.6 do stepping es. (if anyone thinks there processor is warm they should try one of these, or the 8xx processors. You'll understand the word hot). Anyways the exos was on a 2.4 c before this and it hit 3.3 (motherboard limitation). So I moved it to the p4 3.6 es (had to get that stupid adapter and solid copper plate) I was getting temps in the upper sixties on dual stress testing and couldn't figure out why. Well I cleaned my radiator, lol. I saw a drop in temps dramatically. LoL. So after all of this chit chat and being off topic, don't forget to dust off your radiator everyonce in awhile.

Maybe I will do a comparison for you guys next week sometime. What does everyone think? To bad I don't have a thermaltake se or a bigwater. Oh well.
 
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