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The impossible computer problem - Don't believe me? Read this...
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blackrino9 said:
I have ALWAYS used a magnetic screw driver for over 10 years and have NEVER once EVER had it cause a problem.
Swap keyboard, mouse...Unplug soundcard and any EXTRA drives...leave CD ROM, and 1 harddrive....unplug any network cards, SCSI cards, or anything NOT related to it's critical functions....run 1 stick of RAM ONLY for testing. check all JUMPERS on DRIVES, ENSURE you have right multiplier and bus speed set...remove any OVERCLOCK settings you may have been playing with.
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I'm too cheap to buy a new screwdriver every time my old ones get magnetized, so I too do what I shouldn't. I am careful with it though. At least give me that much...
Anyway, what's your chasis temperature? When I was trying to get my grandmother's computer stable, Prime95 would crash once the temperature went above 36 or so. (Which is unreasonably high for a chasis temperature anyway, even in my parent's ultra-hot house my own PC ran 27C with a little help from Prime95 to warm it up...)
Anyway, what's your chasis temperature? When I was trying to get my grandmother's computer stable, Prime95 would crash once the temperature went above 36 or so. (Which is unreasonably high for a chasis temperature anyway, even in my parent's ultra-hot house my own PC ran 27C with a little help from Prime95 to warm it up...)
WorldRunner
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JackieChanIsGOD said:
Come on man...don't be mean...I'm not a complete idiot. I've built some 30-40 computers in my life... The fact that I'm asking about this is proof of my desperation
however...I'm not stupidI would go into BIOS.. disable all that you do not need.. Serial ports.. Parallel, onboard SATA, onboard sound even net.. take out what ya don't need like PCI cards [sound, net etc] The main thing is to get windows to install..
Is that error during installation on the initial loading of files or after you pick the drive and it starts to copy the OS over?
If the drive is formatted..and if you have a floppy drive.. find a win98 boot disk or something.. boot off that and throw an actual MS Win CD in the drive [no burns]. Copy the i386 folder [probably have to use xcopy] to the hard drive and run setup off the hard drive.
If the drive is not formatted.. I would boot off the WinXP cd and partition/format through that [If you can get past that point.. not sure how far your previous installation attempts got] and then boot off the floppy, copy i386 and install from there.
You could also throw the drive in another computer and format it and copy the i386 dir over.
I find that MS has a tendency to point a lot of problems to memory.
As for the restarts.. my computer would do that when I installed some new memory [A7N8X - Deluxe v1.04] so that further made me believe that the ram was not compatible with the motherboard [would get memtest errors whenever 2 DIMMs were installed in any slots.. even single channel mode. Even underclocked the RAM and still got errors] Finally got some new Corsair memory and so far no problems. The real test will be tomorrow morning when I usually have troubles [must be something about the computer setting with no power that was screwing it up. Once I gave it power for a bit [always after a few failed boots] it would boot right up and would not have any problems the rest of the day.
Anyhoo.. Run memtest if you have not.. took me 26 minutes to go through the first pass of standard tests.
Hope ya get it figured out!
Is that error during installation on the initial loading of files or after you pick the drive and it starts to copy the OS over?
If the drive is formatted..and if you have a floppy drive.. find a win98 boot disk or something.. boot off that and throw an actual MS Win CD in the drive [no burns]. Copy the i386 folder [probably have to use xcopy] to the hard drive and run setup off the hard drive.
If the drive is not formatted.. I would boot off the WinXP cd and partition/format through that [If you can get past that point.. not sure how far your previous installation attempts got] and then boot off the floppy, copy i386 and install from there.
You could also throw the drive in another computer and format it and copy the i386 dir over.
I find that MS has a tendency to point a lot of problems to memory.
As for the restarts.. my computer would do that when I installed some new memory [A7N8X - Deluxe v1.04] so that further made me believe that the ram was not compatible with the motherboard [would get memtest errors whenever 2 DIMMs were installed in any slots.. even single channel mode. Even underclocked the RAM and still got errors] Finally got some new Corsair memory and so far no problems. The real test will be tomorrow morning when I usually have troubles [must be something about the computer setting with no power that was screwing it up. Once I gave it power for a bit [always after a few failed boots] it would boot right up and would not have any problems the rest of the day.
Anyhoo.. Run memtest if you have not.. took me 26 minutes to go through the first pass of standard tests.
Hope ya get it figured out!
JackieChanIsGOD
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WorldRunner said:Come on man...don't be mean...I'm not a complete idiot. I've built some 30-40 computers in my life... The fact that I'm asking about this is proof of my desperation
Oh no, i didn't mean anything by it... i just thought that this project is just a little haunted. Having someone else do it could help?
sorry.
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and if the new IDE cables don't work... let me work on it... I generate an anti entropic field ...seriously, stuff works around me that people have tried hundreds of times unsuccessfully
...seriously, stuff works around me that people have tried hundreds of times unsuccessfully
Nazo
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Would you mind coming here and just standing next to my computer for the next few-er, well, I guess it would have to be the rest of my life... The moment you step away it would surely catch on fire -- and computers DON'T catch fire....
I still wonder about the chipset though. You never said if the chasis was at all warm. All you mentioned was the CPU, and if it were unstable, you'd KNOW. And I still agree that there's just no harm in running memtest. It doesn't change anything so if nothing else, it will shut us up about it if you go ahead and run it. ^_^
I still wonder about the chipset though. You never said if the chasis was at all warm. All you mentioned was the CPU, and if it were unstable, you'd KNOW. And I still agree that there's just no harm in running memtest. It doesn't change anything so if nothing else, it will shut us up about it if you go ahead and run it. ^_^
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damn man, where do you live, if its less than a 4 hour drive from NYC I'll come by and try to give you a hand.
try the ide cables, try memtest, try cmos jumper, (all while outside of the case) try a new os, (hell Ill bring you a new instal cd)
try going into cmos and chaning your ram timing (up or down a little) try another optical drive... after that i got nothin, sorry to hear about your troubles, good luck
try the ide cables, try memtest, try cmos jumper, (all while outside of the case) try a new os, (hell Ill bring you a new instal cd)
try going into cmos and chaning your ram timing (up or down a little) try another optical drive... after that i got nothin, sorry to hear about your troubles, good luck
OK:
Have you tried Memtest? It may not be a RAM problem but you have to test to make sure.
Make sure ALL JUMPERS on the motherboard are set to default as suggested in the manual, and ALL SETTINGS in the BIOS are set to default. Come to think of it, make sure everything that can be set is done so according to the manual. That may have something to do with it, esp. drive settings.
Check your PSU. What type is it? Is it connected properly?
Make sure your HSF is connected properly so it isn't overheating.
Does the installation CD work in the good system ie are there any files corrupted on it? If you can get your hands on another OS, that would be good
Get new IDE cables. That is one thing you haven't really done, you can pick them up easily and cheaply. They could solve your problem.
Have you tried a Honduran fertility dance? They are supposed to clear all evil spirits..
Just covering all bases. Try everything suggested in this thread. They could well work (esp. check all settings in BIOS and jumpers).
Good luck.
Have you tried Memtest? It may not be a RAM problem but you have to test to make sure.
Make sure ALL JUMPERS on the motherboard are set to default as suggested in the manual, and ALL SETTINGS in the BIOS are set to default. Come to think of it, make sure everything that can be set is done so according to the manual. That may have something to do with it, esp. drive settings.
Check your PSU. What type is it? Is it connected properly?
Make sure your HSF is connected properly so it isn't overheating.
Does the installation CD work in the good system ie are there any files corrupted on it? If you can get your hands on another OS, that would be good
Get new IDE cables. That is one thing you haven't really done, you can pick them up easily and cheaply. They could solve your problem.
Have you tried a Honduran fertility dance? They are supposed to clear all evil spirits.
. Just covering all bases. Try everything suggested in this thread. They could well work (esp. check all settings in BIOS and jumpers).
Good luck.