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Temp question for you E6600 Owners.

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Primevil

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Hey guys, I recently just upgraded to the E6600 with a 680i EVGA Mobo. And overall, I love this setup, except for one thing that is - my temps, they are kinda worrying me. I'm using the CNPS9500 with AS5 and a P180 case. My temps aren't in the dangerous levels - but they are higher than I expected considering the Cooler I have. I'm currently OC'ed to 3.3 with a 1.3250 CPU voltage.

I've used TAT, Coretemp and Ntune 5.5 - all read the same temps. Room temp is about 28-32c, my CPU temps are - Idle= 44-47c Load=54-59c. These temps are kinda alarming IMO, granted the room temp is kinda up there, but are these normal? I'm considering returning this CPU for another, but I'm not completely sure it's the CPU's fault. I checked the cooler out, the base factory polished to a mirror like finish so I don't think the issus is there. So, should I just return this CPU while I still can(for like another 3 days)

Appreciate any help.
 
Perfectly normal.

Anything under 62 for air is good with that much of an overclock.

At 3.5 my E6300 (at 1.3v) runs at 49-55 on WATER, depending on room temp.
 
Arcygenical said:
Perfectly normal.

Anything under 62 for air is good with that much of an overclock.

At 3.5 my E6300 (at 1.3v) runs at 49-55 on WATER, depending on room temp.
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Well, that's a relief. I was getting kinda concerned about the temps - I had a multitude of things running through my head. I've heard of people getting concave CPU's before, and I normally check before I mount the HSF - I didn't this time, so, that was a concern. That along with a couple other things had me kinda worried. I'm hoping the temps drop alittle more once the As5 sets in also.

Anywho, thanks for the help :D
 
You probably DO have a concave IHS...

I've yet to see a really good Conroe IHS... lol...
 
Oh really? Are they that bad? I almost kinda want to take it out and check, at least I can return it a couple times and attempt to get a better one. Would probably be a waste of time however - especially if these temps are the norm, my chances of getting anything different would probably be low.
 
I run in the low 40's idle, and maybe 50c at full load using a scythe mine hs. Right now I'm at 3ghz@ 1.275v, so not too shabby.
 
Inetl seems to be back at the level of the Prescott temps.....but with loads of CPU power more. :)

Interesting those Waterlevel temps ...very usefull.
 
MatDef said:
I run in the low 40's idle, and maybe 50c at full load using a scythe mine hs. Right now I'm at 3ghz@ 1.275v, so not too shabby.
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Thanks for the info man, you guys saved me a lot of trouble returning the CPU. I'm coming from an AMD system, so, these temps kinda alarmed me - but I also didn't have my AMD OC'ed by almost a ghz, lol.
 
Arcygenical said:
Perfectly normal.

Anything under 62 for air is good with that much of an overclock.

At 3.5 my E6300 (at 1.3v) runs at 49-55 on WATER, depending on room temp.
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How are you getting 3.5ghz at 1.3v? I have to jack my E6600 to 1.565v in bios (1.52 actual) to run at 437 x 8, 3500mhz. My temps are in the same range as yours (unless I run ITAT and put both cores under true 100% load, then they go over 60)...but I would kill to be able to get a 3.5ghz OC on 1.3v. I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I am on water as well.

Could it be my power supply not giving the CPU consistent volts, so I have to jack them up? I can't even get 437 x 8 to boot at less than 1.565 in bios...it's frustrating me.
 
Just luck of the draw as to what you can get out of your cpu. Here is my 24/7 settings, 2 clients folding. 1.325 vcore in bios, temps in the low 50's, completely closed case, scythe mine with stock fan two low speed 120 mm fans. I think the op's temps should be a little lower than they are. Maybe he has a concave ihs. 3.6 takes 1.475 and is completely stable, but temps are too high for me, around 60c. I like my rig to be nice and quiet.

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I am in the same camp as you. I can get 3.5 stable, but it's not worth it at the volts. I posted the stable OC in the Conroe OC DB, then I promptly dropped back down to 1.375v and 400x8. 3.2ghz is still a nice real world CPU speed and it keeps my temps well below 50C now using Water.
 
Hmmm....
I have a E6600, under a Sycthe Ninja and a TT 120mm fan....
W/ the fan at lowest RPM i get 40C idle, w/ my fan spinng the fastest i get it to 46-50c full load. this is at 3ghz stock volts. Ill try some more voltage and see...
 
Calefaction said:
I am in the same camp as you. I can get 3.5 stable, but it's not worth it at the volts. I posted the stable OC in the Conroe OC DB, then I promptly dropped back down to 1.375v and 400x8. 3.2ghz is still a nice real world CPU speed and it keeps my temps well below 50C now using Water.
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Heh same with me. My chip (a now getting older week 26A) can do 3.6Ghz at 1.55V (tested when it below freezing one night, with the wind blowing right into my room, and the stress test loads were still hitting 64C), but that's just to much for my air-cooling to handle. The thing would overheat massively during the summer. I almost want one of the newer weeks to get a better overclock, but me, I'm happy with 3.2Ghz - Low-mid 50s load for me.
 
blade52x said:
Heh same with me. My chip (a now getting older week 26A) can do 3.6Ghz at 1.55V (tested when it below freezing one night, with the wind blowing right into my room, and the stress test loads were still hitting 64C), but that's just to much for my air-cooling to handle. The thing would overheat massively during the summer. I almost want one of the newer weeks to get a better overclock, but me, I'm happy with 3.2Ghz - Low-mid 50s load for me.
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My chip is a week 30A, and won't do 3.5ghz at less than 1.5v. I am currently running 400 FSB x 8 @ 1.375v, DDR2-800 4-4-4-10-1T @ 2.2v. That's a pretty decent machine overall in my book. I am happy with how it's all turned out, and it's been fun to tweak. I know my chip WILL do more, but I see no reason to push it and burn out the chip faster. The real world difference between a C2D at 3.2ghz and a C2D at 3.5ghz is unnoticeable (to me anyway, obviously some benchmark numbers change).
 
Very odd. Tonight I changed around some stuff - I'm running 3.4 @ 1.375Vcore and I'm getting LOWER temps then I was with lower Vcore voltages and speeds. As I'm typing I'm running 2 instances of Orthos(2 per core) and typing this message - my temps are 54c, with a slightly warm room temp, probably around 26-28c.

This isn't all that bad considering the speeds is it not?
 
Primevil said:
Very odd. Tonight I changed around some stuff - I'm running 3.4 @ 1.375Vcore and I'm getting LOWER temps then I was with lower Vcore voltages and speeds. As I'm typing I'm running 2 instances of Orthos(2 per core) and typing this message - my temps are 54c, with a slightly warm room temp, probably around 26-28c.

This isn't all that bad considering the speeds is it not?
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Out of curiosity, what did you change around? Are you running at x8 or x9? What FSB?

And yes, those are decent temps for that vcore and that speed. If you can keep that stable, it's a good OC.
 
1.58v on water is low.

1.68v measured with a digital multimeter on water is where its at :)

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Calefaction said:
Out of curiosity, what did you change around? Are you running at x8 or x9? What FSB?

And yes, those are decent temps for that vcore and that speed. If you can keep that stable, it's a good OC.
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Well, all I changed was the Vcore to 1.375 to 1.365 - I also changed the FSB to 1500. It seems to be running stable, I let it run all night last night - but when I woke up it had went into Standby mode, which it would not wake from. I'm not sure if that's an indication that it's running unstable or what, but it won't come out of Standby. I'll do another test today, but I think I'll be repacking this thing and sending it back to PC Club - try my luck with another chip.

Edit- This sucker is going back, just to kinda test I put it at stock speeds with a 1.3 Vcore. It's still running 41c idle, that can't be correct - not with this cooler and case, unless these procs are just all extremely hot running. So, would you guys advise taking this thing back in hopes for a better one - or am I wasting my time?
 
Your returning a chip because its INTERNAL CORE TEMP IS 41c :rolleyes: Your getting these temps with TAT / Core Temp is absolutely fine temps. If you want to read DIODE temps use whatever software came with your motherboard, as these programs will more then likely report temps in the low 20's, or high 20's. Your always going to see higher temps with TAT or Core Temp cause the "CORE" of the chip is the hottest point.
 
newls1 said:
Your returning a chip because its INTERNAL CORE TEMP IS 41c :rolleyes: Your getting these temps with TAT / Core Temp is absolutely fine temps. If you want to read DIODE temps use whatever software came with your motherboard, as these programs will more then likely report temps in the low 20's, or high 20's. Your always going to see higher temps with TAT or Core Temp cause the "CORE" of the chip is the hottest point.
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Well, I actually use the Ntune software, which reports proetty much identical results compared to Core and TAT. My temps, on average seem to be higher than the norm - maybe they aren't, and I'm probably overreacting. I just don't wanna be stuck with a dud chip. :) The store isn't open quite yet, so I'm still doing more testing and searching around for info.
 
Primevil said:
Well, I actually use the Ntune software, which reports proetty much identical results compared to Core and TAT. My temps, on average seem to be higher than the norm - maybe they aren't, and I'm probably overreacting. I just don't wanna be stuck with a dud chip. :) The store isn't open quite yet, so I'm still doing more testing and searching around for info.
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I run 40C and 60 on full full load @3.5 ghz. These chips have a much higher breakdown temperature from what i have read from several threads here and other forums. I ran orthos over last weekend when i was out of town.... 100% stable and %100 stable in gaming.You are fine.

If it matters, this is the cooler i use........ i didnt want to slap a huge tower heatsink on this my baby. (im happy at 3.5)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835103001
 
I run around 40 idle at 3GHz with 1.35v and a Zalman CNPS 9500LED, but then again, my IHS isn't lapped. I bet lapping would drop the temperature at least a few degrees.
 
Well, I went ahead and returned my 6600 and got another. I lost about 10c off all my temps, highest I've gotten with ORTHOS is 45c, I idle around 35c. And this is just after the install, so the AS5 still needs to Break in yet. So, I think my issues might have just been with my proc, I did notice a pretty uneven finish - which was probably the main factor in the heat from before.

One more question for you guys. Is the TAT bench more straining than the Orthos? I noticed when using TAT my temps hit about 58c with this new setup, and the system is much less responsive - whatever they do in TAT def seems more stressing than Orthos.
 
They actually load up the capacitors under the die in TAT, putting the CPU under maximum thermal stress. It's a great way to see your worst case scenario temps. Even under hard load from games I never really see temps like what TAT can produce in real world scenarios.
 
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