Techreport: Socketed processors "until at least 2016..."

[octoberasian]

http://techreport.com/news/24191/trusted-source-confirms-soldered-on-broadwell-cpus

According to a trusted source in the motherboard industry, select Broadwell chips will indeed come soldered onto desktop motherboards. Lower-end models might not be available in socketed configurations at all, it seems. Our source did, however, reaffirm Intel's position that socketed CPUs aren't being dropped completely. We were told socketed processors are on the roadmap until at least 2016.

Lower-end Broadwell will be soldered-on. There will still be socketed Broadwell processors for higher-end models. Roadmap for socketed CPUs until at least 2016. After that, it's anyone guess if the next processors from low- to high-end are soldered or socketed.

 

[bigted]

it kinda makes sense for OEM's to do this actually, what used to be 2 parts are now being able to be bought all in one, next will be ram onboard. think about it, how often do people who buy dell's or HP's upgrade their processor?

 

[German Muscle]

http://techreport.com/news/24191/trusted-source-confirms-soldered-on-broadwell-cpus


Lower-end Broadwell will be soldered-on. There will still be socketed Broadwell processors for higher-end models. Roadmap for socketed CPUs until at least 2016. After that, it's anyone guess if the next processors from low- to high-end are soldered or socketed.

Intel has already chimed in on this.

Ball Grid array has been used previously, currently and will be used in the future. They stated mainstream and enthusiast will remain socketed and they have no plans to change it.

 

[Tsumi]

Intel has already chimed in on this.

Ball Grid array has been used previously, currently and will be used in the future. They stated mainstream and enthusiast will remain socketed and they have no plans to change it.

Low end mainstream will probably become soldered on though, like Pentiums and Celerons.

 

[pxc]

Low end mainstream will probably become soldered on though, like Pentiums and Celerons.

All the bad reasons to soldering chips to boards are especially bad for high volume chips with many different models. The eventual shift to a higher mix of BGA products will likely be dictated by form factor. If everyone goes tablets, and x86 follows, there's little point to making sockets for those products. While there's demand for corporate "boxes", desktop or traditional laptop (DTR replacement class), and room for a socket, there will be one. It's an insane mess to have dozens of base configs, with no flexibility for manufacturing. IOW, if the customers (large OEMs) demand it, Intel will provide it.

LOL @ TR article. "some configs may only be in BGA". Well, duh. There are low power products often at reduced clock speeds, and have been since the P3 era, which were BGA only. Everyone is still trying to get page hits off the discredited rumor. Pathetic.

 

[DejaWiz]

it kinda makes sense for OEM's to do this actually, what used to be 2 parts are now being able to be bought all in one, next will be ram onboard. think about it, how often do people who buy dell's or HP's upgrade their processor?

The biggest hold-back for everything to be integrated is both design and repair. It's much more viable for an integrator/manufacturer to design several laptop, desktop, workstation, and server models (which would also have different size/shape/specs MoBo for each) to span across all price points, but then be able to use socketed processors and memory. Also allows ease of, fast turn around for, and lower cost of repairing the computer if said socketed components fail at any time, especially during the warranty period.

Integtrate everything on the motherboard and the results are: turn around times increased, product and service/repair costs increased, and customer base shrinks.

 

[pxc]

I think the biggest hold back for all-BGA models is the just in time manufacturing model that Dell pioneered in computer systems and is used by other large OEMs. Base motherboard SKU (multiple of varying sizes and chipsets used) minus CPU + collection of CPUs = many configurations, as needed to supply demand. On the other end of the spectrum, a company like Apple can almost completely use BGA processors since it has a very limited number of base SKUs for each product model. There are many more Dells than Apples in the x86 OEM space.

 

[the_real_7]

Hey if mobo makers did like evga did with nvidia gpus and let's say a GTX 670 and made a GTX 670 ftw version of the board on a nice fixed up ftw board , even a enthusiast like me be down with it , getting the same performance with less hassle from a lower end part that performs well . what i'm trying to say if gpu company's have been doing it strong for last 6 years why cant motherboard makers with cpu , just make overclock able versions , on the plus side no bent pins ever again