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sockets....

snoopy

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how much better is 775 than 478. I have a 478 now, and I want to upgrade, but is there really a HUGE difference between the two sockets?
 
Dual core support/ PCI-E SLI/ SATA II

Performance comparison, it might match a Prescott EE, i can't say though. But since the Dual Core prescotts where rushed out so i don't know if that was a good thing, i dunno if its worth going to L775. I'm have a Albatron PCI-E/S478 in transit for my 3.0E system. If i was to get another socket, it would be S939 or wait for the M2, and i'm a Intel f-a-n-b-o-y :rolleyes:


BTW, i heard that L775 only has another year of life in it till they change again :mad:
 
LGA775 has been around a year already. So if it changes again in a year, that will be two years. Not bad compared to all the socket changes AMD has had lately.

On another note, it isn't so much that LGA775 is better. From a performance standpoint, sockets aren't better exactly. A LGA775 CPU and socket 478 CPU perform the same if both boards have the same chipset. LGA775 has some advantages though in that the LGA775 motherboards have newer features, PCI-Express being a key feature. Plus LGA775 was necessary for dual core support.
 
Ah ok...I know there arent many 478 with pci-e support. But if I even do go pci-e (I'm 15, not all the money in the world), I'd probably switch to AMD ( :( ) unless Intel really has something worth it.
 
There is no point in going to PCI-E right now. AGP performs as well, and the best AGP cards on the market will still play any games out there at max res.
 
That's what I figured. Of course the day I buy PCI-E is when pci-e 32x comes out or something


:(
 
thats life with wants and needs, i have 3 cars (1 for sale) tons of bills and barely can afford computer parts as it is. I'm 23

I'm just keeping what i have now, i ordered the S478/PCI-E motherboard so if they get discontinued i will have one, and eventually save up to get a 7800GT or GTX if the price is right. DAMN X-MAS ;)

If i knew what i do know, i'd be saving for college and a nice car, and keep a mid-range PC.
 
what mobo did you get...id like to get a S478 pci-e just for the sake of future-proofing as much as I can...
 
NulloModo said:
There is no point in going to PCI-E right now. AGP performs as well, and the best AGP cards on the market will still play any games out there at max res.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The performance you can get from a PCI-E solution are FAR better now than anything AGP can bring to the table. I am not speaking of AGP's weaknesses or design, but rather what is available in PCI-E vs. AGP.

Games like Quake 4, FEAR and others can certainly NOT be run at max resolution and detail with AA and AF on a single X850XT-PE or a single 6800Ultra. Sorry, but it isn't the case.
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
Sorry, but you are wrong. The performance you can get from a PCI-E solution are FAR better now than anything AGP can bring to the table. I am not speaking of AGP's weaknesses or design, but rather what is available in PCI-E vs. AGP.

Games like Quake 4, FEAR and others can certainly NOT be run at max resolution and detail with AA and AF on a single X850XT-PE or a single 6800Ultra. Sorry, but it isn't the case.


Id also like to say again: I'm 15...I can't go splurge $600 on a 7800 and new mobo. By the time I saved up enough, PCI-E x512 would be out or something :D.


AGP is basically all I can really afford to get.
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
Sorry, but you are wrong. The performance you can get from a PCI-E solution are FAR better now than anything AGP can bring to the table. I am not speaking of AGP's weaknesses or design, but rather what is available in PCI-E vs. AGP.

Games like Quake 4, FEAR and others can certainly NOT be run at max resolution and detail with AA and AF on a single X850XT-PE or a single 6800Ultra. Sorry, but it isn't the case.

Well, you have the SLI stuff with PCI-E, but other than that, the AGP cards hold their own. AA makes games take a huge hit, I always play with it off, I think the games look better that way anyway, AA causes a loss of fine detail.
 
NulloModo said:
Well, you have the SLI stuff with PCI-E, but other than that, the AGP cards hold their own. AA makes games take a huge hit, I always play with it off, I think the games look better that way anyway, AA causes a loss of fine detail.

Well, that's your opinion concerning AA. That doesn't change the fact that when you max out some of these newest games to their fullest settings, there is no AGP card that can deliver the same kind of performance as the cards that are out for PCI-Express exclusively.

snoopy said:
Id also like to say again: I'm 15...I can't go splurge $600 on a 7800 and new mobo. By the time I saved up enough, PCI-E x512 would be out or something :D.


AGP is basically all I can really afford to get.

We aren't talking about what people can afford. The fact is that AGP can bring two things to performance for a gaming machine that AGP can not. SLi/Crossfire and cards that are made exclusively for the PCI-E bus.

That doesn't mean AGP is crap. Or that AGP versions of these cards couldn't be made. Simply put, all design and technological concerns aside, PCI-E is better because ATi and nVidia are choosing to provide better product support for PCI-E rather than legacy AGP systems in the high end market segment.
 
snoopy said:
what mobo did you get...id like to get a S478 pci-e just for the sake of future-proofing as much as I can...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813170143

Only 89$ and you do need a 20 to 24pin adapter (can pick one up on the net for as little as 4$) if you run more IDE drives then probably need a IDE PCI card or some SATA to IDE cables.

You could pick up the Asrock motherboard for 60$ but i haven't heard as many good things about it as the Albatron board.

So i figure 95$ on the MB and if i want i could pick up a 6800GS for 200$ and still come out for less than 300$ which most 6800Ultra AGP cards cost alone. I'm gonna be saving for the 7800GT though. By then the 8xxx series with DX10 support will probably be out and i can start saving for those, yay!

AGP isn't crap, just look around at pricing of a AGP card vs. PCI-E card w/ motherboard, you'd be suprised what you can find and will be future proofing for atleast awhile. I'm figuring that the 7800GT has atleast 2-3 years in it compared to a 6800U/GS
 
RogueTrip said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813170143

Only 89$ and you do need a 20 to 24pin adapter (can pick one up on the net for as little as 4$) if you run more IDE drives then probably need a IDE PCI card or some SATA to IDE cables.

You could pick up the Asrock motherboard for 60$ but i haven't heard as many good things about it as the Albatron board.

So i figure 95$ on the MB and if i want i could pick up a 6800GS for 200$ and still come out for less than 300$ which most 6800Ultra AGP cards cost alone. I'm gonna be saving for the 7800GT though. By then the 8xxx series with DX10 support will probably be out and i can start saving for those, yay!

AGP isn't crap, just look around at pricing of a AGP card vs. PCI-E card w/ motherboard, you'd be suprised what you can find and will be future proofing for atleast awhile. I'm figuring that the 7800GT has atleast 2-3 years in it compared to a 6800U/GS



I saw that board, I was thinking about it, but Albatron just kind of seemed like a generic brand, so I was iffy. But if it has good performance, I'll check it out.
 
Yeah...I'm probably gonna go with that board, and the 6800GS, no matter how many times my friend tells me PCI-E isn't worth it right now. Now lets just hope mommy and daddy are nice at Chrismahanakwanzakuh :D.

I should probably keep my grades up too...they pay me for that :D.
 
snoopy said:
Yeah...I'm probably gonna go with that board, and the 6800GS, no matter how many times my friend tells me PCI-E isn't worth it right now. Now lets just hope mommy and daddy are nice at Chrismahanakwanzakuh :D.

I should probably keep my grades up too...they pay me for that :D.

If you want them to be nice go for an X1800XL.
 
I just ordered that same s478/PCIe Albatron (& 7800GT). Damn UPS bastards screwed up and didn't deliver the mobo today on schedule like it was supposed to! So I received my shiney new 7800GT all dressed up with no place to go! :mad:

I wish Newegg's default shipping was still FedEx. They were almost always on time and boxes were in good condition with nothing to worry about.

With UPS its a coin toss. About 50/50.... 50% of time good service / 50% of the time the outside box is damaged, or late or whatever! :(

I ordered both the same day, but 7800GT shipped from Memphis and was on time today. And the mobo shipped from Cali, and MAYBE I'll get it Friday now. :confused:
 
chrisf6969 said:
I just ordered that same s478/PCIe Albatron (& 7800GT). Damn UPS bastards screwed up and didn't deliver the mobo today on schedule like it was supposed to! So I received my shiney new 7800GT all dressed up with no place to go! :mad:

I wish Newegg's default shipping was still FedEx. They were almost always on time and boxes were in good condition with nothing to worry about.

With UPS its a coin toss. About 50/50.... 50% of time good service / 50% of the time the outside box is damaged, or late or whatever! :(

I ordered both the same day, but 7800GT shipped from Memphis and was on time today. And the mobo shipped from Cali, and MAYBE I'll get it Friday now. :confused:

I ordered my Albatron board on saturday, it shipped on monday from CA and i didn't recieve mine yet, I live up in ohio, and the board shows its about 30miles from me. So i figure it should be here tomarrow. When you recieve your goods, please let know what you think of everything!!
 
RogueTrip said:
I ordered my Albatron board on saturday, it shipped on monday from CA and i didn't recieve mine yet, I live up in ohio, and the board shows its about 30miles from me. So i figure it should be here tomarrow. When you recieve your goods, please let know what you think of everything!!

#&)(#@*$ @#$**)(@#* UPS Bastards!! Re-scheduled delivery now says 11-28-05!

I went in to work this morning JUST TO RECEIVE THIS..... checked UPS's website and now its not coming until Monday. Last night it was still showing 11-25-05 delilvery! UPS FUCKERS!
 
snoopy said:
Yeah...I'm probably gonna go with that board, and the 6800GS, no matter how many times my friend tells me PCI-E isn't worth it right now. Now lets just hope mommy and daddy are nice at Chrismahanakwanzakuh :D.

I should probably keep my grades up too...they pay me for that :D.

I just bought one of these,

I was going to get a $339 Geforce 7800GT.

Donnie27
 
I've always been an Nvidia kind of guy, even if that means nine more dollars :D
 
snoopy said:
I've always been an Nvidia kind of guy, even if that means nine more dollars :D

I don't think you understand the card specs. The 12 pipe 6800 or the 6600 is slower than the 16 pipe X800XL. nVidia was my first choice as well.

Donnie27
 
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