i bought a raptor 36 gig and i heard some stories that they do over heat and burn out. So iam thinking of getting a HDD cooler fan for it. Will it do the job well enough for me not to worry about my HDD burning out 1 night?
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AMEN. I just got rid of my 2 Raptors cause they were way too loud! The performance just wasnt worth the noise levels. Right now I'm happy with my 7200rpm Seagate. The Raptors do run warm, but nowhere near hot enough to kill them.cheezies said:
Some one on this forum told me that his raptor died due to an overheat, i wonder what was he doing 
Ya, i agree with you there a little loud. But not at the level to tick me off. I use it for my OS files and my games. It only gets noisy when i start up games, but its quiet for the rest of the time.
I want one of those maxtor atlas'. I bet there as loud as a lawn mower. 500$ bucks thou.....
Ya, i agree with you there a little loud. But not at the level to tick me off. I use it for my OS files and my games. It only gets noisy when i start up games, but its quiet for the rest of the time.
I want one of those maxtor atlas'. I bet there as loud as a lawn mower. 500$ bucks thou.....
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Have you tried putting rubber washers between the drives and the drive cage? That kills a lot of noise for me. You see, the Raptors vibrate at the natural frequency of most cases, resulting in constructive interference...
Don't ever get 36g raptors... no FDB there and just loud stuff. (unless it is server than who cares )
74g raptors run as quiet as most 7200 RPM drive I have around... (seek noise is bit louder but thats doesn't bother me.... its the spinning noise that would have bothered me in first place).
)74g raptors run as quiet as most 7200 RPM drive I have around... (seek noise is bit louder but thats doesn't bother me.... its the spinning noise that would have bothered me in first place).
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What's the secret behind 36Gig Raptor's added noise? Maybe some component is taken out making it unbalanced and prone to greater vibration?
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Um...i have a 26gb raptor and its hardly loud at all. My new case has rubber washer in the HD tray and it hardly makes a sound that bothers me. My old case didnt and I could hear it but it wasnt that loud, fans are louder
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WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK!?!!!!?!?ToyYoda03 said:
Do you have even any plausible theory behind this mysterious quieting down when the drives are full as opposed to empty? Also, stop following me to every thread and posting intelligent replies like:Dillusion said:
ToyYoda03 said:
i dont know why people say the raptors are loud, i have 2 36gb in raid0 and they are no louder than my 80gb western digital special edition drives. i have them in my super lanboy with the stock 120mm low speed fan blowing over them and they stay nice and cool. this case also has really good vibration isolation for the hard drives.
i recently bought a 250gb maxtor ata133 7200 rpm drive and it is lots louder than my raptors.
i recently bought a 250gb maxtor ata133 7200 rpm drive and it is lots louder than my raptors.
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see, him too. no i dont have any proof, except memories of when i was on your side of the fence, and now i say 'wtf wheres the noise' .... sooo
anyway, some of the 36gb raptors do have FDB theres a site with the differences , like one letter in the serial thingy
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Darth_Fluffy said:
seriously, my raptor isnt loud. I never got why every says they are
edit- im not following you....
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cheezies said:
Thats overheating!!!
My 2 36gb raptors are very quiet, and they are the first version of the drives. The ones that are suppose to be louder then the second version of the raptors.
When your raptors are whining that means the bearings are getting to hot. The only time I hear my drives are when they are accessing a lot but otherwise with like 6 80mm fans for cooling on the case i never hear the drives in normal operation.
I just have 1 80mm fan blowing across my drives in the hard drive cage and that is enough to keep the outsides at basically ambient temps.
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Cant hear either of my hard drives over the fans.
my raptor drive is fine. it doesnt get hot, its nomal temperature. it is a bit loud but it doesnt bother me... infact i dont notice it. but my two raid 0 80 gigs get pretty hot. i had them get to 140 n i dont think that was very accurate temperature. im more worried about the 80's more then the raptor
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Well, my 74gig Raptor is at acceptable noise levels. I put some rubber washers in between it and the drive cage, so I think that helps. I have two 80mm fans blowing over it, and it's pretty isolated as well.. No reason for it to overheat, right?
Maybe the first version of 36gig raptors were simply 74gig raptors with half the storage diabled? And the 2nd version, they actually removed the extra platter making it unbalaced, and therefore more prone to vibration? Just a theory, but as good as any, right??
Maybe the first version of 36gig raptors were simply 74gig raptors with half the storage diabled? And the 2nd version, they actually removed the extra platter making it unbalaced, and therefore more prone to vibration? Just a theory, but as good as any, right??
My 36GB Raptor is as quiet as my WD 80GB SE...can't hear the whine over the fans at all. Read/write noise is quite a bit louder but it doesn't bother me. And no rubber washers in my case yet.
I have 2 80mm fans blowing on mine, somewhat noisy but I like to keep all my drives nice and cool ever since my Deathstar overheated and scratched its platters...
I have 2 80mm fans blowing on mine, somewhat noisy but I like to keep all my drives nice and cool ever since my Deathstar overheated and scratched its platters...
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Beleive it, or not that's exactly what they do. A 40Gb hard drive is usually phyiscally identical to it's 120Gb counterpart, only you can't access the rest of the sectors, because the firmware won't allow it. The 120Gb hard drive is actually "bigger" than 120Gb, some likely go over 180Gb. The rest you can't really use. The only time that space becomes used is when you get a bad sector, and it will have to disable that particular sector, and use one in the "inaccessible" part instead.Dillusion said:
There's a trick to use that unused space, however flawed. If you get a bad sector you're fucked. You can read more on it here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14597
and here:
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=15534&highlight=hard+drive
GG pwned.
i was thinking strickly raptors first of all. second of all, the 36gb raptors came out WAY before the 74gb versions, so i dont see how they would have more when mroe wasnt even planned, it wasnt on the roadmaps for WD yet.
pwn yerself
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Exactly. So that means the "version 2" 36Gb raptors are crippled 74Gb ones, while "version 1" are a different drive, entirely. Makes sense. Otherwise there would be no version 1 and 2, they'd all be the same, y'see..
And how do you know what's on WD's roadmaps? Are you an executive there? It seems you like talking about things you know nothing about.
And how do you know what's on WD's roadmaps? Are you an executive there? It seems you like talking about things you know nothing about.
Darth_Fluffy said:Beleive it, or not that's exactly what they do. A 40Gb hard drive is usually phyiscally identical to it's 120Gb counterpart, only you can't access the rest of the sectors, because the firmware won't allow it. The 120Gb hard drive is actually "bigger" than 120Gb, some likely go over 180Gb. The rest you can't really use. The only time that space becomes used is when you get a bad sector, and it will have to disable that particular sector, and use one in the "inaccessible" part instead.
There's a trick to use that unused space, however flawed. If you get a bad sector you're fucked. You can read more on it here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14597
and here:
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=15534&highlight=hard+drive
GG pwned.
Do your research. Those cases are all of overlapping partitions. It does not "unlock" free space that the manufacturer included. Larger capacity drives are created by adding additional platters to the drive. There is a certain amount of unused space on the drive for bad sectors, but that has nothing to do with it as well. What you are seeing is a corruption of the MFT. There has been no case of anyone filling the entire drive, including the "unlocked" space, and being able to read the data. But there are plenty of examples of people who tried this and got instant file corruption where the partitions overlapped.
GG pwned.
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ROFL
There are two versions of the raptors because of a bearing change.
Raptor drives have ~18.3 gb platters in them. 2 in the 36gb and 4 and the 74gb.
Yes there is extra space in very hard drive. That is because we don't use the maximum of the platter. This extra space is very small though. As it is meant for when there are bad sectors on the hard drive. And if there are bad sectors on the hard drive you can RMA.
Anyway... Extra space comes from extra platters. There is no way any company would send out Crippled 74gb drives with the 4 platters and then have it only use 2 for a 36gb model. Costs way to much money in the way of extra platters, more heads. It just doesn't happen.
Just incase any one missed what I mentioned in an earlier post. When the raptors are making a loud whining noise that means the bearings are getting to hot. There should be air flow on the drives even a 60mm fan is fine to keep the outside of the drives cool. I have an 80mm fan blowing on my 2 raptors in the hard drive cage. When I touch them they feel about as warm as the case or maybe just a tad warmer. With them at that the only noise I hear is when they are accessing data.
There are two versions of the raptors because of a bearing change.
Raptor drives have ~18.3 gb platters in them. 2 in the 36gb and 4 and the 74gb.
Yes there is extra space in very hard drive. That is because we don't use the maximum of the platter. This extra space is very small though. As it is meant for when there are bad sectors on the hard drive. And if there are bad sectors on the hard drive you can RMA.
Anyway... Extra space comes from extra platters. There is no way any company would send out Crippled 74gb drives with the 4 platters and then have it only use 2 for a 36gb model. Costs way to much money in the way of extra platters, more heads. It just doesn't happen.
Just incase any one missed what I mentioned in an earlier post. When the raptors are making a loud whining noise that means the bearings are getting to hot. There should be air flow on the drives even a 60mm fan is fine to keep the outside of the drives cool. I have an 80mm fan blowing on my 2 raptors in the hard drive cage. When I touch them they feel about as warm as the case or maybe just a tad warmer. With them at that the only noise I hear is when they are accessing data.
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The heat and whining were mostly from the first or old raptor 36gb.
The platter sizes are the same for all revisions.
Hope thats what you meant.
The platter sizes are the same for all revisions.
Hope thats what you meant.
HUH?
Ive built 2 systems recently, both 2x 36G raptor raid0's in SuperLanBoy cases. They run nice and cool, and are very quiet....need to LOOK at the LED to know you're accessing the drive.
Maybe "OLD" raptors were loud, but ones made in the last few months are as quiet as your avg 80G/8 IDE drive.
The Lanboy's drive isolators Im sure help a good bit too. DONT vibrate the case sides and you WONT have a huge transducer vibrating your head.
Ive built 2 systems recently, both 2x 36G raptor raid0's in SuperLanBoy cases. They run nice and cool, and are very quiet....need to LOOK at the LED to know you're accessing the drive.
Maybe "OLD" raptors were loud, but ones made in the last few months are as quiet as your avg 80G/8 IDE drive.
The Lanboy's drive isolators Im sure help a good bit too. DONT vibrate the case sides and you WONT have a huge transducer vibrating your head.
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It isn't that mines loud. It's just the pitch. And according to FanSpeed it's usually a degree or two above system temp...
My maxtor mounted above it feels a little heat from it though. When the maxtor is under heavy activity it gets around 10 degrees C over system temp
My maxtor mounted above it feels a little heat from it though. When the maxtor is under heavy activity it gets around 10 degrees C over system temp