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Ram water cooling

It will always depend upon the particular situation (your case airflow, how hard you are pushing you ram, what type of ram you have be it TCCD or BH-5) but in the majority of the situations a heat spreader is overkill much less watercooling.

That being said, if for whatever reason you want to watercool your ram, the Koolance blocks seem like the best. The use of the aquapak, or whatever its called, technology makes for a much better heat transfer than competing ram blocks.
 
yea im considering these too, and i would need a separate loop myself (andd prolly just do the chipst too) cuz my ram is currently being cooled by 2x80mm fans at 5v and its doin fine. otherwise they would be HOTT to the touch
 
topcat989 said:
the aquacomputer ones seem nice
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The biggest difference between the Koolance and AC blocks is their design. In the Koolance block the water is moving right over the memory modules. Also the HydraPak (looked it up this time) design means that there is nothing to adjust or fiddle with. The AC design is basically a straight through aluminum block attached to the top of some aluminum heat spreaders. Granted it is probably more than enough for cooling the RAM...but if you are going to do it why not go with the more elegant design of the Koolance?
 
holy crap. $50 each?! X 4?!!! that's $200!!!

I built half my setup for that! :eek:

I agree with the koolance ones being a better design than the AC ones though.
 
Double Jesus said:
holy crap. $50 each?! X 4?!!! that's $200!!!

I built half my setup for that! :eek:

I agree with the koolance ones being a better design than the AC ones though.
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The koolance one's cool two mem sticks at once, so it's actually x2, which is only 100.
 
Erasmus354 said:
The biggest difference between the Koolance and AC blocks is their design. In the Koolance block the water is moving right over the memory modules. Also the HydraPak (looked it up this time) design means that there is nothing to adjust or fiddle with. The AC design is basically a straight through aluminum block attached to the top of some aluminum heat spreaders. Granted it is probably more than enough for cooling the RAM...but if you are going to do it why not go with the more elegant design of the Koolance?
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I was thinking of adding one, but for sheer looks. I just want it to fill with green glowing liquid, but then again, I don't know if I want to hassle with another block - I can't stand tubes going everywhere and prefer a minimalistic approach.
 
im using the AC one my self im not to big on the way they are set up but after my case is finished they should remove enough heat.
 
What I notice: The Koolance ones are only 1/4" tubing... Basically, you'd have to have an exos or other premade kit... I rarely know of anyone who has built their own WC setup with 1/4" tubing... With any of the higher end pumps, squeezing the flow into that small of a diameter would probably cause some problems with a 1/2" setup.
 
BLiTzKRiEG said:
What I notice: The Koolance ones are only 1/4" tubing... Basically, you'd have to have an exos or other premade kit... I rarely know of anyone who has built their own WC setup with 1/4" tubing... With any of the higher end pumps, squeezing the flow into that small of a diameter would probably cause some problems with a 1/2" setup.
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With a 1/2" setup you wouldn't want to bother with ramblocks anyways.
 
Erasmus354 said:
With a 1/2" setup you wouldn't want to bother with ramblocks anyways.
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An eloquent reason not to use silly 1/2" bore setups, yes?
 
Top Nurse said:
An eloquent reason not to use silly 1/2" bore setups, yes?
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If you think watercooling the RAM makes a bit of difference then it's your judgement that is in question, not the awesomeness of 1/2" setups.
 
Top Nurse said:
An eloquent reason not to use silly 1/2" bore setups, yes?
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Can we try not to turn this into yet another small vs. large bore thread please? I think zer0signal is getting quite tired of shutting down threads.

There is no reason why someone cant run both a 1/2" setup for their high heat components and a secondary 1/4" setup for other components like RAM, Chipset, and HDD if they so choose.
 
Erasmus354 said:
There is no reason why someone cant run both a 1/2" setup for their high heat components and a secondary 1/4" setup for other components like RAM, Chipset, and HDD if they so choose.
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qft cuz this is exactly what i plan to do if i can afford it or get teh secondary loop used. wait, what am i talkin about? i got my PRIMARY loop used!

and im looking forward to my 7/16" tubuing signifying my MAIN loop interacting with the smaller tubing cooling my chipset and ram all interacting with my AQUAERO thats on the way as we speak.

so yea, please lets not argue about this one right here.

ps: without active cooling on my ram i would have to run it stock. either the tccd gets too hot over 220 mhz or the utt-bh ram gets too hot past 3v.
 
I think using two separate loops is a good idea if you want to use blocks that aren't available for those who use big tubes. Let the big bore stuff go to the CPU and use the small bore stuff to go to everything else. Thus you would get the most bang for the buck out of your high flow systems.
 
I agree with top nurse, as my first setup i had koolance video coolers 1/4" hose, and koolance hard drive coolers 1/4"hose, a tdx cpu cooler 3/8" hose and a mcp 350 pump 3/8", i used some hose 1/4" to 3/8" hose reducers.
It worked for a about three weeks then my pump crapped out on me. I think all that back pressure screwed up the pump. Or it just failed, not sure which of the two, but i would just keep different size loops separated.
I also don't trust the seals on those koolance fittings. poor design the way the oring seals.
all the seals failed on my Sli rig. :mad:
luckly i salvaged my 6800gt cards. :p
 
Erasmus354 said:
The biggest difference between the Koolance and AC blocks is their design. In the Koolance block the water is moving right over the memory modules. Also the HydraPak (looked it up this time) design means that there is nothing to adjust or fiddle with. The AC design is basically a straight through aluminum block attached to the top of some aluminum heat spreaders. Granted it is probably more than enough for cooling the RAM...but if you are going to do it why not go with the more elegant design of the Koolance?
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how is the koolance more "elegant"?

and since it is "more than enough for cooling the RAM" and, IMOHO, looks 10x more elegant than the koolance, why not go with it?

also, the aquacomputer ram block is capable of cooling 2 sticks at once
 
Double Jesus said:
holy crap. $50 each?! X 4?!!! that's $200!!!

I built half my setup for that! :eek:

I agree with the koolance ones being a better design than the AC ones though.
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Actually no, since 1 of the ram coolers can hold 2 sticks.
 
For the S754 people, the Ramplex can actually cool all three sticks (I believe) if you get an additional thermal pad and the like for it.
 
topcat989 said:
how is the koolance more "elegant"?

and since it is "more than enough for cooling the RAM" and, IMOHO, looks 10x more elegant than the koolance, why not go with it?

also, the aquacomputer ram block is capable of cooling 2 sticks at once
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The AC design basically takes what amounts to an aluminum heatspreader, and then puts an aluminum waterblock on top of that. It requires adjusting in order to get good contact with the RAM modules, and even then the heat must travel through the "heatspreaders" and into the aluminum block, and then FINALLY into the water. The Koolance design on the otherhand uses their hydrapaks. This eliminates any adjusting, provides good contact with the RAM modules, and the heat transfers through the hydrapak and right into the water. Much more elegant, much more efficient IMO.

The Koolance block cools 2 sticks at once as well.
 
Well it won't belong before 2 gigs is going to be a must have. I will want to go with 4X512.just so I can use these

4x512 means you're probably going to have to resort to 2T which means a fair drop in performance. Much better off with 2x1Gb - there are several good kits like this available. 1 gig modules may not overclock as well, but utilizing command-per-clock more than makes up for any shortcomings on that front

FYI I don't think watercooling memory is necessary at all. Just a small amount of airflow over them is enough, especially if the rest of the rig is watercooled (ie. lower ambient temps). The heatspreaders on my Ballistix at 243MHz are only lukewarm, I just lucked out with bad overclockers (only good for ~250 MHz which is stock - I'm running 270 at 9:10 divider). With or without a 120mm fan blowing over them, makes no difference.
 
Well the fact is there is for sure 1 M/B that can run 4 sticks and still do 1T. As far as cooling the ram goes . One of the reasons (for me ) is a quiter system . So once you remove all those little fans from your system .There is a lot less air moving around your M/B . So the ram does infact get rather warm. 4 sticks of fast DDR2 X 512 will have lower latency than 2x1024 sticks . 4x512 DDR2 5400 UL= $700+ I don't think it would be a bad Idea to protect you big$ Ram with a little water cooling for an aditional $100. and cooling Ram/ HD/ and NB with 1/4 line is more than enough . And won't restrict the flow in a well setup up Parallel cooling system .
 
Erasmus354 said:
Can we try not to turn this into yet another small vs. large bore thread please? I think zer0signal is getting quite tired of shutting down threads.
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:D :D :D
What would give you THAT impression?
 
Erasmus354 said:
The AC design basically takes what amounts to an aluminum heatspreader, and then puts an aluminum waterblock on top of that. It requires adjusting in order to get good contact with the RAM modules, and even then the heat must travel through the "heatspreaders" and into the aluminum block, and then FINALLY into the water. The Koolance design on the otherhand uses their hydrapaks. This eliminates any adjusting, provides good contact with the RAM modules, and the heat transfers through the hydrapak and right into the water. Much more elegant, much more efficient IMO.

The Koolance block cools 2 sticks at once as well.
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Are you making this statement based on reading webpages or from actually owning them or seen the products in person? :p

Actually if you have ever had a HydraPak cooler you might not be saying that. While the water is in closer contact to the RAM modules it has to absorb the heat through something that doesn't conduct heat as well as aluminum. If you want to save yourself the cost of a Koolance RAM cooler to see what I am talking about then go buy one of their coolant bags as the material appears to be the same.
 
Erasmus354 said:
The AC design basically takes what amounts to an aluminum heatspreader, and then puts an aluminum waterblock on top of that. It requires adjusting in order to get good contact with the RAM modules, and even then the heat must travel through the "heatspreaders" and into the aluminum block, and then FINALLY into the water. The Koolance design on the otherhand uses their hydrapaks. This eliminates any adjusting, provides good contact with the RAM modules, and the heat transfers through the hydrapak and right into the water. Much more elegant, much more efficient IMO.

The Koolance block cools 2 sticks at once as well.
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OK, i sww where you're coming from, but even so, don't you think that that AC ramplex has more than enough thermal capicity to cool RAM? it's similar to the high/low flow debates, as long as it get's the job done (that you want), than why go bigger/faster, etc?

i just think the koolance coolers look like ass, and the AC ones look cool. and more elegant. who cares if the koolance ones are more "effecient" than the AC ones if the AC more than adaquately cools the RAM? anyway, JMOHO :eek:
 
topcat989 said:
OK, i sww where you're coming from, but even so, don't you think that that AC ramplex has more than enough thermal capicity to cool RAM? it's similar to the high/low flow debates, as long as it get's the job done (that you want), than why go bigger/faster, etc?

i just think the koolance coolers look like ass, and the AC ones look cool. and more elegant. who cares if the koolance ones are more "effecient" than the AC ones if the AC more than adaquately cools the RAM? anyway, JMOHO :eek:
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QFT. Btw Topcat what part of the B.A. do you reside in?
 
topcat989 said:
OK, i sww where you're coming from, but even so, don't you think that that AC ramplex has more than enough thermal capicity to cool RAM? it's similar to the high/low flow debates, as long as it get's the job done (that you want), than why go bigger/faster, etc?

i just think the koolance coolers look like ass, and the AC ones look cool. and more elegant. who cares if the koolance ones are more "effecient" than the AC ones if the AC more than adaquately cools the RAM? anyway, JMOHO :eek:
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I believe my exact words were "Granted it is probably more than enough for cooling the RAM", the wonders of reading. And when I was referring to the Koolance coolers being more elegant I was referring to the design, not the looks. As many people here probably know looks is not something I consider when looking at watercooling gear :D .
 
Erasmus354 said:
The AC design basically takes what amounts to an aluminum heatspreader, and then puts an aluminum waterblock on top of that. It requires adjusting in order to get good contact with the RAM modules, and even then the heat must travel through the "heatspreaders" and into the aluminum block, and then FINALLY into the water. The Koolance design on the otherhand uses their hydrapaks. This eliminates any adjusting, provides good contact with the RAM modules, and the heat transfers through the hydrapak and right into the water. Much more elegant, much more efficient IMO.

The Koolance block cools 2 sticks at once as well.
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Only problem with the Koolance blocks are they are ugly as all getty up. The AC ones looks clean but serve no real function other than BLING.
 
topcat989 said:
OK, i sww where you're coming from, but even so, don't you think that that AC ramplex has more than enough thermal capicity to cool RAM? it's similar to the high/low flow debates, as long as it get's the job done (that you want), than why go bigger/faster, etc?

i just think the koolance coolers look like ass, and the AC ones look cool. and more elegant. who cares if the koolance ones are more "effecient" than the AC ones if the AC more than adaquately cools the RAM? anyway, JMOHO :eek:
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Your asking a guy who doesn't water cool........
 
You would have to look for a review on witch performs better then trying to discuss whos right and wrong.

Has anyone seen reviews for the Koolance and AC ram coolers.

Any ways they all probably are the same in cooling.
 
The ram water blocks from Koolance are the the only water blocks I would use from them . As far as reviews go on how well they work no I haven't read any. But I have read reviews on the Hydra packs used for cooling HD and the reviewer was very inpressed.

As for a parrallel cooling system I run 3/8 line to a storm cpu block
3/8 line to Maze 4 GPu
1/4 line to invotak hds 2x
1/4 line to koolance memory water blocks 2x ( I haven't used these yet)
1/4 line to NB cooler

2 water pumps to y splitters ( I use High performance Racing Y blocks)
1 6 port intake water manifold
1 6 port return water manifold

If you havent tried it don't knock it. Its expensive but very cool . with 2 pumps good flow is maintained to all water blocks.

LARGE CASE REQUIRED LIAN LI V2000 series
 
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