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R420 + NV40 Delayed?

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Something doesn't seem right here, why would Nvidia lauch PCI-Express cards when there aren't even any PCI-Express mobos out, not to mention that they would be competing with the NV40 line of cards... I am thinking that maybe NV40 has been delayed to mid May or June.

The same applies to the ATI side. If you check on their mainpage, there is a marketting anouncement about PCI-Express, I expect that to just counter Nvidia's press release on their new cards. Still, they haven't even formerly announced the R420, and given their track record, it takes them 2-3 months to move from announcement to retail. If they announce it at CeBIT (middle of march), that'll put it at a mid May or June release date also.

Of course, this means that the LGA 775 and Socket 939 motherboards should be arriving on schedule given that Nvidia has decided there is enough of a market in the internim from late march til NV40 + R420 to justify releasing PCI-Express boards based on old generation technology.

All pure speculation at this point however. Any thoughts?
 
I've read that too.

"The ATI Radeon 9800XT is still in the channel and ATI doesn't want to kill its sales numbers as there are quite a few of these cards remaining to be sold."

Then maybe there is something behind the Nvidia PCI-Express launch. If they know ATI is ready with a R420 PCI-Express video card, and they know their precious NV40 is delayed, it would make sense to try to preempt ATI in order to try to at least hold onto market share.

Lets face it, they've been screwed by ATI for the last two refreshes, they might not be able to make the same mistake again with XBox2 profits out of the questions.

Whatever, as long as I can retire my Ti4200 in April/May.
 
For the same reason why nVidia delivered 8x AGP ti-4200 video cards. To increase sales. It´s all PR you know?
 
The ATi card should be in production soon.

Remember, ATi's Radeon 9700 and GFFX5800 were originally supposed to go to market "head to head" ATi just happened to get theirs out of the gate a lot earlier (and faster too)

ATi is probably going to launch as close to Nvidia as possible (I would think) to give extra time for the 9700/9800's to sell, which are doing extremely well right now. Have no doubt, ATi will not rush the 420 out with the current 96/97/9800's doing so well.

Which means that the first consumer level R420's will probably already have been refined quite a bit by the time Nvidia threatens with their counterpunch.
 
I saw a bit a few weeks ago (can't remember where, anandtech maybe) indicating R420 was in production and sample have shipped to ATi partners. I think this indicates, if true, that R420 is on schedule.

Also, don't forget the working silicon demoed at IDF by ATi.
 
Yeah, was a prototype board demoed at IDF for sure? I hear conflicting reports.

I don't think anyone actually got to open up the computer that it was supposed to be running in.
 
Originally posted by ZenOps
Yeah, was a prototype board demoed at IDF for sure? I hear conflicting reports.
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From what I have read, the specific card they were running was not announced. I think reports that it was a 420 are speculative. The thing is ATi did the same thing with R300 a couple months before it's launch so it's more or less an educated guess.
 
man what is this world comming to?


Jesus Christ first hl2 and doom3 and now new gpu cores

next will be ddr2 and btx and everything.. its just never gonna come out :p
 
Well, I think R420 is ready for a march/april launch, but ATI is delaying it on purpose. Looks like those $180-$190 9800 Pros are just a way to clear inventory. They might hold it off on purpose to get rid of all those expensive 9800 XTs that no one will buy.

I think something is up with Nvidia though, launching a PCI-Express lineup just a month and a half before their next generation parts are due to come out. Sounds like NV40 is delayed, and they are just trying to score with OEM manufactures before they jump on the ATI train.

Poor Nvidia, they can't afford to miss again.
 
I'll believe they'be been delayed when leaked alphas/betas/picsofgabenewellassualtingasubwaysub make their way online.
 
the r420 is on will be shiped in april/may its a agp card,the pci-express card r423 will be shipped in the fall
 
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