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R420 12 Pipelines

Originally posted by Merlin45
Nvidia claims that with new tech in the nv40 (this actually said by the CEO) they are hopping for close to 100% yeilds on the nv40 and its derivatives.

It's not terribly hard to do this, just matters how you are organizing the chips and its internal structure, so that no chip can be totally defective, and still have a place in the product line
 
I don't know why anyone bothers reading the inqwell anymore, there story changes by the day it seems. First the R420 was 8 pipes now it's 12-16. The NV40 is now actually the NV45, 16x1 but will not be able to be launched in the spring...

I am kinda think they are just making stuff up now.
 
in their buisiness, they take very little information and extrapolate, as more information comes in, they revise their analysis, hence, it changes. they get it right more often then not, and they are the only source for a lot of it.
 
they get it right more often then not, and they are the only source for a lot of it.

They appear to steal about half of it direct from the Beyond3D 'boards.

They bought the nvidia line that the NV30 was an "8x1" part even though it was not, and their accuracy varies since their predictions vary.
 
You can't question the validity of the inquirer if they are just speculating. Yeah, they probably get a lot of information off of plants at B3D. However, I don't frequent B3D. This is the first I've heard of this kind of speculation, and I probably wouldn't of heard about it had The Inquirer chose to not report on it.
 
Usually when a person wails on the Inq it means the Inq's speculation is casting their prefered product in a not-so-great limelight. Were the opposite true, these same persons would be the first to come to the Inq's defense. I believe there's a word for that. Ah yes...hypocrites. :rolleyes:

The Inq speculates, more often they are right than wrong, big shit. Deal with it.
 
I don't think that they are portraying ATi in a negative light, as nVidia hasn't shown anything better (unless I'm completely wrong).
 
Is it possible that ATI is only enabling 12 pipes so that if the NV40 comes out and is beating them by a good margin they can just put out a new driver release that re-enables the other 4 pipes making people believe that ATI writes magic drivers.
 
WHO CARES??
Arguing about how many pipelines the chip will have doesn't actually change anything.
 
Nobody is arguing, just speculating.

And when has anything that anybody has ever argued about on the hardocp forum ever actually changed anything?
 
You can't question the validity of the inquirer if they are just speculating.

That's funny, I didn't know there was a law.

"So let it be written; if thou doth speculate, thou must be free from criticism of ones speculation, even if thou doth not indicate that such speculation is indeed speculation."
 
You know that there is no guarantee what they are saying is true. However, you believe them anyway, because its the most reliable source. You can't question validity of a statement that isn't told as hard facts.

And I'd pass that law by Congress first to see what they think. :p
 
They aren't posting facts most of the times. Its opinions or guesswork. How can you call their opinions or guesswork wrong?
 
Originally posted by Ibanez
What the hell are you talking about? The R300 was 8x1(9700)/or 4x1(9500). Where is the base 3 part?

The old-school 7200-7500 series Radeons were 2x3. They haven't done that for awhile though.
 
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