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Pump Help

Glyphic

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I have a Swiftech mcp-650 pump, and it comes with that neoprene on the bottom, well despite the warning not to remove it I had to anyways since it randomly started to interferre with my HD after about a month or so and I had to reposition it in my case. The problem is that since I've moved it my pump will make a horrible vibration noise and it does this on and off, any ideas? Also since I''m here I have my rad mounted to the top of my case, its quite noisy and I'm not sure what to do with it. I tried finding a box or something I could fit it in but I have had no luck. As of right now I have ducttape wrapped around it in order to force air through the rad instead of it hitting the bottom of it and coming out of the sides, looks crappy. Although I am considering getting a new case since this midtower definately is too small, and all of my components are jammed into my case very tightly. I can't take any one thing out without removing at least 2 other things, including my pump and video card.

edit2: I was looking through the wc gallery and I want something similar to the whiteguy's setup here, http://www.imagevenue.com/host/web1/472df_rad.jpg., I have this case... http://kingwin.com/pdut_detail.asp?LineID=&CateID=1&ID=151, and it's driving me nuts that everything it so poorly fit into the case, I'm considering getting two bay trays for both my HD's and putting them up there so I can put my pump where the HD's are mounted. Then since I have this fill and bleed kit from swifttech, which annoys me, I can't get my system fully bleeded and I'm suffering from freaking airbubbles which are impossible to remove, I was thinking about getting a res and mounting it where my floppy drives are, since I have none. But yeah, any ideas are helpful, sorry for this long post :p
 
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Well, my temps are horrible, idles at 33c, load temps are around 50-55c. 3.0c @ 1.62 volts, 3.4 ghz. I believe the fact that I had tropuble bleeding my system was part of the problem, I couldn't get it to bleed all the way with this fill and bleed kit, I'm looking into getting a res as soon as I find one.
 
Well, I strongly believe that one of your problems is lack of airflow in and out of the case. Your cables are everywhere! Try to consolidate them and maintain a clear pathway for air to go through your case. I understand that you are watercooling, but airflow still helps a ton.

Also, what way are your fans under your radiator pushing air? They should be forcing it up, to help heat's natural tendency to rise over cooler air.

Also, don't forget to check for and eliminate kinks.
 
Yeah, my fans are blowing up, I'm planning on getting mobile racks ( all I can think of atm) and put my 2 Harddrives into my cd-rom bay, moving the pump to where the harddrives are ( even though my two intake fans are there), and hopefully there will be room for a res somewhere in there, hopefully floppy bay, but I doubt that.
 
I've just realized I've got a nasty little kink on the tube that connects to the intake for my waterblock, I have no idea on how to remove it. I wanted to replace this crappy vinyl tubing but swiftech clamped it onto my CPU. Bleh, and any reason why there are black markings on the corners of my Waterblock? Tried cleaning it but didn't work.
 
yep, need to put the fans on top sucking air. if necesary build a wooden frame to fill in the gap or hopefully your rad will sit on the hole you cut in the top of your case. In any event get the fans on top and seal between the rad and case with 3/8 inch foam weatherstrip tape. either apply the foam aournd the edge of the hole or on both sides of the frame you build.

Springs in a "spring assortment pack" from Home Depot has two springs with "C" shaped hooks on each end that work great for securing the rad. You drill a small hole in the top of the case right at each corner of the rad. Hook one end of the spring in the hole and pull it up and hook the other hook end of the spring into the upper corner of the rad. Along with the foam tape it will very securely hold the rad in place and make the tape seal perfectly.

You should have ALL fans blowing into you case except for the rad fans. This means you need to reverse the fan in your power supply. Be careful. Of course unplug it from the wall first, hit the power button several times to help discharge the capacatiors inside the supply. Its usually pretty easy to flip the fan around and there should be no need to get near any of the electronics. Usually it will slide right out, flip it around and slide it back in. Bonus, PS now gets nice cool air. Flip the bottom fan too. While you will be putting some heat in the case you will most likely be much better off as now all air will be forced /sucked out the top thru your rad.

I have a setup like that, but went further and flipped the PS upside down and it has its own blowhole out the top. Not sure from pics if you have room for that.

A Tee line placed in the loop will slowly collect the air, it will take a week lol. One of the diffiuclites with a high mounted rad is getting the air out. Laying the computer on its side with the disharge part of the rad up will help a little. Use books etc. to prop it up so air can get out of the rad and into the tee line and let it run. Make the hose on the tee line nice and long so that it will be the highest point. Put it on the suction side of the pump. After you get the air out you can cut it shorter and cap it off.
 
What good does blowing hot air from out of the case onto the rad do? Besides I don't really like having to cut two large holes in the top of my case

edit oh and due to my case being too small I can't mount my rad like that

I'm def looking into a new case now. I'm really thinking about getting this chenming entry level case. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-125-475&depa=1
and at 57 bucks who can beat that. It should be enough room for me to mount everything, and it should look much cleaner. My first concern though is whether or not I should just mount the Radiator on the back of the case. I'm not even sure if it would fit but it should be fine using two 80mm on a rad that uses two 120mm right?
 
this is the best I can do with this case, not sure what I'm gonna do, I think my drives get a bit hot where they are


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Yeah... drives will get quite hot that close together. Can you drop the bottom one down a slot?
 
DarkenReaper57 said:
I thought that was proven false (that pumps interfere with HD's, that is).

It shouldn't happen... hard drives are shielded from magnetic fields by the metal case that they are inside of. The pump could be introducing noise into the cables, though. SATA drives are somewhat sensitive to electrical noise, I believe, which could be induced by local magnetic fields.
 
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