Pendulum swinging AMD's way?

8800gt is pretty darn close to 8800gtx =\

2 problems with that are 1, its close but not faster and 2, its the same company.

So after a year the progress we have seen so far is nothing more than revisions, overclocks and 1 card that is well priced in the high end. And realistically considering the 8800GT is slower than last years fastest part its really not priced all that well IMO.

We would have 8800GTX equivelents in the mid range by now for under $200 if there was some competition.
 
My big thing these days is the AIB makers...

Almost all the good AIB makers are Nvidia. BFG, XFX, eVGA...

ATi has Sapphire (ROFL, I'm NEVER buying a card from them again), HIS ($$, but ok), and Powercolor (had some bad experiences, and some good)... but all have a 1 yr warranty at best.

And did ATi ever get their linux drivers working well?
 
But hey if your willing to settle for more of the same every year thats fine by me but it dont make much sense. Usually the current midrange parts are = to last years high end and thats really not the case right now because of the lack of competition.


Well, if you aren't satisfied with the state of things, haul your ass out into the real world and create some competition for nVidia and ATi rather than just whining. More competition is certainly better for us consumers, so get on it.
 
And did ATi ever get their linux drivers working well?

They did even better than that - they released the specs to the cards and then open sourced a large chunk of the base driver. The official ati binary driver is supposed to have been overhauled and work much better, but I don't have an ATi card anymore so I can't verify that. But the open specs alone make me want to pick up an ATi card over an nVidia card...
 
They did even better than that - they released the specs to the cards and then open sourced a large chunk of the base driver. The official ati binary driver is supposed to have been overhauled and work much better, but I don't have an ATi card anymore so I can't verify that. But the open specs alone make me want to pick up an ATi card over an nVidia card...

I honestly don't care about open or not: I use Linux in both a personal and purely business aspect. As long as the drivers WORK, I don't care if they're open or closed.

Given that last I used them, you had to have 2 possible exact kernel patch levels, and then still didn't have GL acceleration, work much better isn't exactly reassuring.
 
I honestly don't care about open or not: I use Linux in both a personal and purely business aspect. As long as the drivers WORK, I don't care if they're open or closed.

Given that last I used them, you had to have 2 possible exact kernel patch levels, and then still didn't have GL acceleration, work much better isn't exactly reassuring.

Huh? When I used the ATi drivers years ago on a 9700Pro it had full GL acceleration and worked on several different kernel versions... Did it really get worse, or did your distro only provide pre-compiled modules for 2 kernel versions?
 
Huh? When I used the ATi drivers years ago on a 9700Pro it had full GL acceleration and worked on several different kernel versions... Did it really get worse, or did your distro only provide pre-compiled modules for 2 kernel versions?

What distro were you using?

I had a 9500 softmod and 9800, working with W1zzard on the early ATiTool stuff. Couldn't get it working easily, if at all, in RHEL, Fedora, or Gentoo. Slackware sorta worked, but that was it.

The drivers were a joke for that entire era: it was the one reason to have an Nvidia card.
 
What distro were you using?

I had a 9500 softmod and 9800, working with W1zzard on the early ATiTool stuff. Couldn't get it working easily, if at all, in RHEL, Fedora, or Gentoo. Slackware sorta worked, but that was it.

The drivers were a joke for that entire era: it was the one reason to have an Nvidia card.

Still are a joke. Go to any linux forum and they will tell you if you plan on sticking with linux to go Nvidia.

2 companies to avoid with linux are Creative and ATI.

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_Avoid_ATI_Video_Cards

That is where the source of the real issues with ATI and linux are. ATI simply dont want to deal with linux and it shows.
 
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