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P4 3.2 w/ hyperthreading vs AMD 3200+

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Seeing as the search function is off, I cannot search for prior responses on this comparison. Up until tonight I was a huge advocate for the Athlon's but every benchmark I see except for AMD's themselves shows the P4 in the lead. Have I just been in a dream world on this?

What do you guys think about the comparison?
 
I have both p4 and athlonxp

P4 is running at 3.5ghz and athlonxp is runnin at 2.55ghz (approxamately XP4000)

Both of them are overclocked. I would have to say that the Athlon system edges out the p4. Go check other peoples results. And to boot, i spent less on that athlon :eek:

The cpu were originally P4-2.4C and AthlonXP+2500(barton)

Rock bottom cpus running at very high speeds :)
 
The Athlon64 is the way to go for now. Or, you can wait for the Intel socket 775 chip and see what that does.
 
Originally posted by MontyAC
The Athlon64 is the way to go for now. Or, you can wait for the Intel socket 775 chip and see what that does.
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Or AMD Socket 939 :eek:
 
you should just wait and see how good the new CPU's are

then after u wait, u can make a smart decision about which CPU is good and which is not
 
I have been in the AMD camp for my last three CPU upgrades and I must say that I am pretty satisfied of my "passage to the dark side". Since I have an Intel based system, all the problems I had with that damn nForce2 crap gone away. My SCSI setup was acting weirdly, was not as fast as it should, I had numerous USB problem, weird behavior in 3D mark, weird sound problems with soundstorm and so on.

My system is now 1 week old now and as soon as I booted for the first time, I did noticed the difference instantly. My PC was much, much more responsive just as we expect a 15K drive to be. Before, my CPU utilization of the HDD was 22-25% and this is SCSI. Now, it is under 2%, and it shows!

At 3.0GHz, I found my system faster than my 3200+. My system is not as sluggish as it was. It seems that the memory is optimized for Intel. Where my XP 3200+ was sluggish, my P4 3.0C is not. The system is much more responsive, and it is not only due to my 15K RPM drive. Windows apps seems to run faster.

My friend bought my XP2500+ overclocked to 3200+, he borrowed my 9700 Pro to see if my freshly RMA'ed Radeon was working fine. He played a few games, including desert combat. When I finally manage to get all my PC assembled, I played Desert Combat too to see how it compares. Well, everywhere his system skipped some frames, slowed down, my P4 3.0C did not. Go figure.

I also have some leds on my memory DIMMS (Corsair Pro) and as far as I can tell, the leds do not flash the same way than on my previous NF7-S. I don't know if is has something to do with better performance. Anyway.

I don't want to bash the Athlon as it is a superb CPU. The only downside I see is how 3rd parties integrates this marvel. nVidia is a new kid on the block when it comes to chipset, and VIA, well, you know. It seems that only Intel is able to design some decent chipsets. Ok, lets forget about i820 and Rambus.

All in all, my advice, you will pay more for Intel but you will pay for peace of mind, especially with paired with an Intel based motherboard.

It is true that, clock for clock, the P4 is slower. Who cares, since AMD use their "PR rating". The P4 3.2C IS faster than an XP 3200+, no mather what.

One thing that I have learnt from last week is to NOT rely only on benchmarks. This is a good indication if a CPU performs pretty well but does not say all the truth.

Anyway, this is my very own experience. I don't want to start a flame war :rolleyes: but I had to let you know how I felt since I made the switch to Intel.

Para
 
Originally posted by Parabellum
I have been in the AMD camp for my last three CPU upgrades and I must say that I am pretty satisfied of my "passage to the dark side". Since I have an Intel based system, all the problems I had with that damn nForce2 crap gone away. My SCSI setup was acting weirdly, was not as fast as it should, I had numerous USB problem, weird behavior in 3D mark, weird sound problems with soundstorm and so on.

My system is now 1 week old now and as soon as I booted for the first time, I did noticed the difference instantly. My PC was much, much more responsive just as we expect a 15K drive to be. Before, my CPU utilization of the HDD was 22-25% and this is SCSI. Now, it is under 2%, and it shows!

At 3.0GHz, I found my system faster than my 3200+. My system is not as sluggish as it was. It seems that the memory is optimized for Intel. Where my XP 3200+ was sluggish, my P4 3.0C is not. The system is much more responsive, and it is not only due to my 15K RPM drive. Windows apps seems to run faster.

My friend bought my XP2500+ overclocked to 3200+, he borrowed my 9700 Pro to see if my freshly RMA'ed Radeon was working fine. He played a few games, including desert combat. When I finally manage to get all my PC assembled, I played Desert Combat too to see how it compares. Well, everywhere his system skipped some frames, slowed down, my P4 3.0C did not. Go figure.

I also have some leds on my memory DIMMS (Corsair Pro) and as far as I can tell, the leds do not flash the same way than on my previous NF7-S. I don't know if is has something to do with better performance. Anyway.

I don't want to bash the Athlon as it is a superb CPU. The only downside I see is how 3rd parties integrates this marvel. nVidia is a new kid on the block when it comes to chipset, and VIA, well, you know. It seems that only Intel is able to design some decent chipsets. Ok, lets forget about i820 and Rambus.

All in all, my advice, you will pay more for Intel but you will pay for peace of mind, especially with paired with an Intel based motherboard.

It is true that, clock for clock, the P4 is slower. Who cares, since AMD use their "PR rating". The P4 3.2C IS faster than an XP 3200+, no mather what.

One thing that I have learnt from last week is to NOT rely only on benchmarks. This is a good indication if a CPU performs pretty well but does not say all the truth.

Anyway, this is my very own experience. I don't want to start a flame war :rolleyes: but I had to let you know how I felt since I made the switch to Intel.

Para
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Great post, but only one problem. We still don't know if the CPU you are comparing is the same CPU he is referring to. There are 3200+ Bartons and 3200+ Clawhammers - which one is he talking about? Your post applies to the former but sheds no light on the latter.
 
Originally posted by Mad_Pyro
Great post, but only one problem. We still don't know if the CPU you are comparing is the same CPU he is referring to. There are 3200+ Bartons and 3200+ Clawhammers - which one is he talking about? Your post applies to the former but sheds no light on the latter.
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You are right. Well, I was comparing the CPU which I have tested, tweaked, overclocked, killed :rolleyes: I cannot talk about the A64 since I have not tested them myself.

Para
 
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