OCing Problems, AGAIN!

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Russ

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I can't get my computer to OC. I set it in the bios but no matter what it says in there (it DOES read it correctly after a reboot, for instance saying that the CPU frequency is at 1890 (210 fsb/HT link). But when I boot into windows, CPU-Z ALWAYS says 1809 (201 fsb). I have tried using clockgen, but my computer freezes in a minute or so when I use it. CPU-Z can corectly detect an OC between clockgen and the freeze.

I have my voltage manually set to 1.4v, DDR voltage set to 2.7, chipset at 1.5, multiplier manually 9x, ram divider @ 200 (1:1), and cool 'n quiet DISABLED (yes I specifically checked this multiple times).

I recently updated to the 8/11 DFI bios, hoping it would help. It didn't.

Any suggestions? Anyone ever had this odd problem before?
 
Hmmm... that is weird. 1890 isnt much of an OC I know but did you try to bump up your cpu voltage one notch to see if it made any difference?
 
This sounds like a bios setting problem to me. Looks like something is being left on auto that shouldn't be, and is setting itself and the rest of the system back to spec. Do you have proc multi set on auto or are you specifying which multi to use? Your HTT multi should be on 5 for starters. Instincts tell me you have the proc multi set at 4, which would prob cause the mobo to put proc at default settings.
 
nah i manually set what I assume is the multi (has settings of default and 4-9x) to 9x. I forget what it's named.

Why does the HTT have to be on 5x? I'm OCing.

Some of my ram timings are on auto, but the four ones that everybody knows are manually set to 3-3-3-8 and 1T.
 
Your HTT does not have to be on 5 and definately should not be if you're OCing!!! When OCing AMD 64s you want to make sure your HTT is always 1000 or less.

For example 250 FSB X 4 HTT Multi = 1000 HTT

250 FSB X 9 CPU Multi = 2250 CPU

2250 / Mem divider = DDR Speed.

Hope that helps :)
 
Check out ocing guide @ ocia.net, explains HTT in great depth. HTT should be within 5 to 10 percent of 1000. The thought that it must be less than 1000 is a myth, although you don't want to be too much over. I use the 5 multi up to 1100, then I step down to 4.
 
oh oops, back to your problem. :) Have you tried a software program to oc? I don't normally recommend but it would be interesting to see if it works.
 
hm.

I don't voltage is the issue here, I'm at fsb 265x9 with mem @ 166 divider, HTT link = 4 on auto voltage with no problems at all.

wadec22 is probably right - something is being left at auto that shouldn't be. make sure your cpu multiplier (i think its called something different in my bios) is set at 9x and your HTT is set at 5 for now. try leaving all your volts at stock.

did you lock pci-e at 101mhz?

if you're using sata, make sure it's ports 3 and 4, because 1&2 don't lock. if you're not using sata, disable it in the bios.
 
Ok, had some odd experiences with ClockGen last night.

For some reason, CPU-Z reports the correct voltage (I set it at 1.450). Or at least the correct DFI-adjusted voltage ( ;) ). But Clock Gen says it's 1.400 at startup and 1.400 currently (when I open it on a clean reboot), but 1.450 "max". The first time I noticed this I set it to 1.450 and suddenly my 210 fsb was recognized when I said "get values" for it! I checked CPU-Z and sure enough, 1890. Yay, I thought, but then it froze and I had to reboot. Now, every time I click get values whether I've messed with the "VID" (as ClockGen calls the voltage) or not my computer freezes. It is a bad freeze, mouse doesn't move and power button must be held for 4 seconds to reboot.

O yea, and I haven't successfully gotten the overclock to stick once windows boots after that first time. 1809 all the time. (I'm pretty sure this is just magin of error that it's not 1800, because the times when I can get ClockGen to get values, I see 200.93 fsb stock, hence it rounds to 201 and the extra 9 mHz over stock.)

The multiplier is called "hammer fid control" or something. I have tried it both at 9x and at "StartUp" (a.k.a. default).

edit: And every time I have gotten to see the values on ClockGen no matter what the PCI-E is at 100.00 and PCI is 33.34. I don't see options (or at least obvious ones) in the bios to unlock the lock or even set the values myself, so I have no idea how to change one of them at all.

Can anyone with a DFI bios (or failing that anyone) think of what the setting that is hurting me might be? I have no clue.
 
man... hate to keep you waiting, just got home from monday night football at the bar :) kind of in the bag right now.... i have tomorrow off, keeping your post up... i will try and help more tomorrow morning.... i have a dfi, will look at my settings a little further.... hang in there!
 
Hate to say it guy but I'm at a total loss. Only thing I could think of was maybe the jumper that clears your CMOS is in the wrong position, thus resetting your system settings on each boot. However, if that was the case, I would think it would have toasted your mobo a long time ago.
 
Ok, I figured it out. (Used planetamd64 forums). It's the "CPU Spread Spectrum" option. Has to be disabled. Did so and now OCs work!

Sorry to revive this, just though people should know.
 
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