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stimlaphine

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i was planning to build a new system using the asus p4c800-e deluxe motherboard but considering socket 478 is dead and discontinued, is it even worth it?
 
If you want to buy something that has a good upgrade path have your considered a socket 939 Athlon 64 system? It just came out and should offer a decent upgrade path. Also, when you buy Intel you overpay extra twice - once when you build and then again when you eventually upgrade. I just upgraded my p4 system and the cpu I upgraded to was twice the price of the AMD equivalent. The Athlon 64 is faster than a p4 in most benchmarks anyway (unless you're buying for hyperthreading, then the p4 is the better chip).
 
I'm going to build one last socket 478 system this summer. The hardware prices, bang for the buck, are pretty incredible. The i875 is a very fast, stable, proven chipset.

My $00.02 - B.B.S.
 
BlindedByScience said:
I'm going to build one last socket 478 system this summer. The hardware prices, bang for the buck, are pretty incredible. The i875 is a very fast, stable, proven chipset.

My $00.02 - B.B.S.
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i agree with you on that.

i just upgraded from my old 468 system to a a 468 shuttle, and it is still a great setup for the cost of it. i am quite happy with my system
 
Darth Flatus said:
If you want to buy something that has a good upgrade path have your considered a socket 939 Athlon 64 system? It just came out and should offer a decent upgrade path. Also, when you buy Intel you overpay extra twice - once when you build and then again when you eventually upgrade. I just upgraded my p4 system and the cpu I upgraded to was twice the price of the AMD equivalent. The Athlon 64 is faster than a p4 in most benchmarks anyway (unless you're buying for hyperthreading, then the p4 is the better chip).
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Would socket 939 or 754 be a better choice?
Also, are there any sub 200 dollar processors avaialble for socket 939? The only one's i am seeing that are 939 socket are the athlon fx's which are way beyond my budget.
 
Socket 478 isn't dead yet, they have to fix the new one first......


and amd and intel are now just about dead even on price.....just look on pricewatch...
AMD64 3200+ = Intel P4 3.2 = $260ish
AMD64 3400+ = Intel P4 3.4 = $390ish

As performance goes, one person will say AMD and the next will say Intel.
 
The Athlon64 3000+ or 2800+ are pretty cheap and I think they're socket 754 which would be cheap but less upgradeable.

I just compared the prices and I stand corrected about AMD being cheaper. I haven't been in the market for a brand new cpu for quite awhile and just went on the assumption that AMD would be cheaper since they have been most of the time in the past.
 
Does intel plan to make any higher speed northwood for the rest of the year? e.g 3.6 3.8 etc...?
 
i think i rather stick with either socket 478 or 754. I'm not planning to dump all my cash on this rig, looking to spend ~1000 dollars. This computer should be able to last me for about 2 years, at that point i should have enough money to purchase the newest and best parts from intel or amd (whoever is better at that point).
 
Darth Flatus said:
If you want to buy something that has a good upgrade path have your considered a socket 939 Athlon 64 system? It just came out and should offer a decent upgrade path. Also, when you buy Intel you overpay extra twice - once when you build and then again when you eventually upgrade. I just upgraded my p4 system and the cpu I upgraded to was twice the price of the AMD equivalent. The Athlon 64 is faster than a p4 in most benchmarks anyway (unless you're buying for hyperthreading, then the p4 is the better chip).
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actually IMO getting a socket 939 system would not be a wise decision. not only would you be spending probably 100$+ on pretty much no extra performance, but all the initial 939 mobos probably have many problems. 478 setups are becoming more attractive everyday as the price comes down.
 
apHytHiaTe said:
Nope, I heard that 3.4 Ghz is the end of it.
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By that you mean 3.4ghz is the highest speed you will see on a northwood core p4 and the prescotts will come out in faster speeds for socket 478 right?
 
mc_P said:
By that you mean 3.4ghz is the highest speed you will see on a northwood core p4 and the prescotts will come out in faster speeds for socket 478 right?
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Not exactly. 3.4GHz will be the end of the Socket 478 line, as far as full-blown Pentium 4's are concerned - Northwood or Prescott. Any future Socket 478 processors that will come out will all be Celerons.
 
is there a big enough difference in performance to pay the extra 60 bucks or so for the 3.2 P4 over the 3.0 p.4?
 
if you can wait until august 22nd the prices will be dropping. The 3.2 price will drop to the 3.0 levell, in other words it will be around $200-220 depending on different deals going on.
Here's the link that talks about the price drops

Aug 22nd price drops

As for performance you'de gain from the $60.00? at this point it's not worth it. You'de be better off investing that money in better fans, heatsinks, etc... but if you still are willing to pay that extra $60, you can get your self a 3.4 :)
 
E4g1e said:
Not exactly. 3.4GHz will be the end of the Socket 478 line, as far as full-blown Pentium 4's are concerned - Northwood or Prescott. Any future Socket 478 processors that will come out will all be Celerons.
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oh man :( but then again why does it say my mobo will support up to 3.6ghz in the manual? Its kinda gay if the socket 478 faster processor is 3.4ghz i think it should stop at around 4ghz
 
Skt478 ends at 3.4ghz with intel slowing chip production at the end of the year

LGA755 is currently roadmapped to get upto 4ghz by the end of the year

Intrestingly enough 1066fsb CPUs will be due out soon yet there isnt currently a chipset to support them untill Auguest
 
superd00k said:
is there a big enough difference in performance to pay the extra 60 bucks or so for the 3.2 P4 over the 3.0 p.4?
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Not at all. Usually, a 200MHZ difference doesn't reveal any tangible or "feelable" differences.

I say, buy the 3.0GHZ and OC it to a 3.2GHZ. If you have a decent cooling setup, you can probably take it beyond 3.4GHZ and keep it stable.

Even my 2.8E can hit 3.4GHZ. Unfortunately, I can't take it up further cuz my mobo is retarded--it capped the CPU Vcore at 1.6 V. :mad:
 
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