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next gen intel core? TEJAS?

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nightelfmaster

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i think tejas is the next gen intel core...
i heard that tejas will come out in 2005, and will feature 64-bit extentions...
of course these are just rumors, but can anyone confirm then with valid sources?
or if theyre wrong, can anyone post the correct features/release date of the tejas core?
 
yes tejas is the next intel core, it probably will have the 64 bit extensions enabled, (heck, intel will probably enable those on prescott 775 eventually) also there is reason to believe that tejas is dual core due to the massive power draw of the samples that mobo manufacturers are getting. (150+ watts for a 2.8 chip, move over scottie, tejas needs more power)
 
thx but do u know whens it comeing out?
i know that sucker will be hottttt..
itll be like haveing 2 prescotts in one small space.. lol
but also, isn't it supposto be pentium 5? or will they call it sumthing else because of the 64-bit extentions, which will make it different from the other 32bit processors?
 
Originally posted by nightelfmaster
thx but do u know whens it comeing out?
i know that sucker will be hottttt..
itll be like haveing 2 prescotts in one small space.. lol
but also, isn't it supposto be pentium 5? or will they call it sumthing else because of the 64-bit extentions, which will make it different from the other 32bit processors?
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Tejas isn't really a next gen core, it is an updated Netburst core (same as Northwood and Prescott). The rumored next gen all new core is Nehalem. Of course, Inq has been rumoring that Intel has scrapped their roadmap... (grain, salt, but I'm not going to be surprised anymore).

Nobody knows when it is coming out, but it is on the roadmap for 2005.

Nobody knows what it is going to be called, probably including Intel. Those are marketing decisions.

Like Merlin45 said, Prescott already has 64bit extensions, it's just a matter of when they turn them on.
 
Originally posted by VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVI
Tejas isn't really a next gen core, it is an updated Netburst core (same as Northwood and Prescott). The rumored next gen all new core is Nehalem. Of course, Inq has been rumoring that Intel has scrapped their roadmap... (grain, salt, but I'm not going to be surprised anymore).

Nobody knows when it is coming out, but it is on the roadmap for 2005.

Nobody knows what it is going to be called, probably including Intel. Those are marketing decisions.

Like Merlin45 said, Prescott already has 64bit extensions, it's just a matter of when they turn them on.
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I think Tejas is the last of the Netburst batch, which is what the original Williamette P4 is based off of, and Nehalem is the next big overhaul. I'm assuming this road map is accurate.
 
thx...
very confusing these days with all dis new stuff
they should like just make one roadmap that they WILL follow..
also anyone have a link to the intel roadmaps? i can't find it...
 
Intel is rewriting their roadmaps every week it seems, they are trying to compensate for the addition of x86-64, the pentium-m architecture, and the fact that netburst is going to die soon because it isn't scaling like they wanted and the chips are getting too hot.
 
It is hard to say just how good tejas will be. Given the lacklustre p4 part from its very beginnings, I think that they pooched the design from the start. There are supposed to be some of the next generation building blocks architected into tejas also. More and more though the power saving features of the p-m seem to make more and more sense. Prescott could have been a breakaway part for them, but they hosed that up. If they would have just added a couple of extra stages, with the addition of the prefetch and branch optmiziations they could have actually improved the performance of the p4. I think that management should take a close look to how they are managing the part. Putting too much emphasis on mhz while shotting ipc down the toilet isn't much of a executive decision. If they took the good stuff that has emerged from the p4 design and grafted all the good stuff on the p-m they would put some major spank down on anything else. (hyperthreading,trace-cache, etc)
 
Given all the Merom rumors around, I'm willing to bet that Intel has made some big changes in their internal roadmap. At this point, I think the future is pretty hazy from our perspective.
 
can someone like find a consilidated intel roadmap, or maybe make one and post it? thx (send me the web link)
 
Originally posted by nightelfmaster
can someone like find a consilidated intel roadmap, or maybe make one and post it? thx (send me the web link)
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Here is a rumored NEW Intel roadmap, showing Nehalem being replaced by an unamed 'Merom based' chip:

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0312/kaigail.gif

Cedarmill is supposidly just a dual core Tejas.

Nothing has changed as far as Netburst goes, it has been known that Tejas was the end of line for some time now. The big rumored change is what follows Netburst in 2006.

Nehalem was supposidly a next gen long pipeline chip and the replacement for Netburst. Not much was known about it.

Merom is a continuation of the Pentium M. The new rumors suggest Intel will make a desktop variant of Merom to replace Netburst and scrap Nehalem.

It's possible people are reading too much into this, and that Nehalem is still under development. Netburst has been rumored to be the death of Intel ever since it was released.
 
150 Watts??? Intel just never learns. Sigh. :(

Unless, of course , it really is dual core. Then they could spread them out on the opposite parts of the card, so you wouldn't get the mass nuke heating. Although, you'd need dual fan systems then. Bleh, w/e.
 
Originally posted by M4d-K10wN
150 Watts??? Intel just never learns. Sigh. :(
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Architecture changes take time to implement. How else can you intepret Intel's tinkering with Pentium M based desktop chips as anything EXCEPT as Intel realizing that the technology isn't advancing fast enough to keep their NetBurst dreams alive? It's already too late to fix Tejas so they have to live with it, but I wouldn't assume they're stupid as they are not.
 
They would have to bundle a new PSU with each processor. And phase-change cooling.
 
Thats exaggerating. Manufacturers like Dell, Compaq may have to stop using crappy PSUs, but enthusiasts should be unfazed. As for cooling, the better coolers out now are already capable of handling this kind of load, but you'll have to accept higher temps.

BUT, 150W is still just a rumor. We don't really know many details on Tejas yet so its a bit early to make assumptions. Things can change somewhat in several months time also.
 
Yes, but assuming i want to Oc that thing, what kind of power + cooling would i need?? And better cooling requires more power. It's a vicious cycle. .'., i would need at least a 550-600W psu.
 
Not necessarily. In truth most people buy PSUs far larger than they actually need. My current system used to run fine on a salvaged Dell PCP&C 250W PSU, so with my current Antec True Power 430, I could probably run a 150W proc overclocked without much issue.
 
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