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pzGrenadier

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Here is my component wish list, which I will buy on Oct 29 (First Weekend after receiving my paycheck... :D)

Asus A8N SLI-Premium + AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+
2* Corsair ValueSelect 1G PC3200 Memory CL-3 (This is the only memory that I can find in 1G/stick here at the local store :( )
Leadtek 7800GTX (not extreme version)
Hitachi 250GB 7200rpm 8MB cache SATA Harddisk (Changed to Maxtor 250GB with 16MB cache :) )
Antec TruePower 550W ver.2
Cooler Master Centurion 5 Casing (with side window)
Audigy 2 ZS
LG 4617B Dual Layer DVD Burner
Creative Inspire T6060 5.1 speaker
Logitech MX518 Mouse

I am also planning on buying the Zalman CNPS-7700Cu and VF-700Cu after this rig has run a month without any problems.

So, what do you guys think about my setup? Anything to improve?

Thanks in advance
pzGrenadier
 
paintb4707 said:
Yeah... Why the hitachi HD? I would suggest a maxtor 250g with the 16mb cache.
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Agreed. Hitachi is more of a budget company, and the extra cache of the Maxtor'll help quite a bit. Also, on the RAM I noticed you said it was the only kind you could find at your local store? Are you buying all these components locally?
 
If he gets the T7K250 version Hitachi 250GB, it will not be signifacntly slower than a 16MB Maxtor drive - it may even be faster. Hitachi's 7K400 (which has only an 8MB buffer and a lower areal density than the 16MB Maxtors) actually outperforms the 16MB Maxtor drives in most of SR's new 2006 DriveMarks. The T7K250 whould be even better, as it delivers seek performance similar to the 7K400 and achieves a 50% increase in density.
 
sc00ter said:
Agreed. Hitachi is more of a budget company, and the extra cache of the Maxtor'll help quite a bit. Also, on the RAM I noticed you said it was the only kind you could find at your local store? Are you buying all these components locally?
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Yes, I'm going to buy all of the components from one local retailer. Since I'm in Singapore, I'm not sure if I order something from e-Tailer, whether I should pay some extra tax or something. :p So, that left me with only one choice on the ram.
 
Thanks guys for the recommendation on HD. I will change to the Maxtor 250G Harddisk. However, just as the mem, I cannot locate the Western Digital harddisk from the retailer. But I will keep that in mind and ask him whether he has such harddisk when I make the purchase.

And, I'm having another question concerning CPU and Video Card.

I was planning on buying a X2 4400+ with Leadtek 7800GTX (non-extreme), since I'm on a budget, if I want to switch to a Leadtek 7800GTX (extreme), I will have to choose a cheaper CPU such as 3800+. And I think, with the 4400+, basically i need to OC the video card and with X2 3800+ I need to OC the CPU. So here is my question:

If running at stock which combination would perform better in games? I know that X2 3800+ is a great for OC. But, how much difference would the 1M cache from the X2 4400+ make during daily use and gaming?
 
...i am sorry if this is off topic....
Is the AMD X2 4400 a good overclocker? I was thinking of maybe someday getting it :)
It seems just like the 4800 but slower...
So i was also thinking of getting teh Asus A8N SLI-Premium and the x2 4400 and then just OCing it to 4800 speeds...
If running at stock which combination would perform better in games? I know that X2 3800+ is a great for OC. But, how much difference would the 1M cache from the X2 4400+ make during daily use and gaming?
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Usually, the more cache the better, i think...
 
Well, Just read from review that the Leadtek non-extreme is not such a great cooler. Cost-wise, the Extreme is similar to the regular Leadtek with an additional VF-700Cu. So, maybe I'm better off with the Extreme. After all, with the Asus Premium, dual slot is not such a big problem even with SLI and I'm very interested with the idea that the heat is vented outside the box.
 
Sorry for the bump, but just confirmed, my paycheck has arrived and I will go out and get my new rig in about 3 hours. :D Just wanna make sure everything is all right for the last time. :)

So, here is my component list:
Asus A8N SLI-Premium (with 98 boot disk and 1.0.0.8 BIOS ready)
AMD Athlon64 x2 4400+
Leadtek WinFast PX7800GTX Extreme
2 * 1G PC3200 Memory
Maxtor 250G 7200rpm 16MB Harddisk
Antec TruePower 550W ver.2
Creative Audigy 2 ZS
Creative Inspire T6060 5.1 Speaker
Logitech MX518 Mouse
LG 4167B dual-layer DVD burner

Please comment. :)
 
{NcsO}ReichstaG said:
...i am sorry if this is off topic....
Is the AMD X2 4400 a good overclocker? I was thinking of maybe someday getting it :)
It seems just like the 4800 but slower...
So i was also thinking of getting teh Asus A8N SLI-Premium and the x2 4400 and then just OCing it to 4800 speeds...

Usually, the more cache the better, i think...
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A 4400+ at 2.4GHz will be roughly equivalent to a 3800+ at 2.6GHz. The cache makes up for about 200MHz of speed, in most cases. I personally don't think you should stop at 2.4, unless there's a limiting factor. Most are good for at least 2.5, and many people can get up to 2.6. Imagine having two FX-55's in your system...........
 
ALYNCH75 said:
What is SLI?????????????????????????
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scalable link interface if im correct...its basically hooking up 2 nvidia cards of the same brand/model/gpu and getting about 1.5 times the performance....logically it wud be 2, in reality its around 1.5 but it varies by game...
also, regarding the 4400+ x2, i wud say to grab a 3800+ x2..im going to be getting one myself this weekend and that extra money u save can go towards a better HSF and other goodies :p
if ur looking for good OCing memory (or overall memory) i suggest getting the 2x1gb pc4000 crucial ballistix. u can get the crucial tracers but hte only difference between them and the ballistix is that tracer have activity LED's and black heatspreaders vs the ballistix yellow heatspreader.
if ur looking to OC pretty far (i believe hitting 2.5 wud be 250htt w/ a stock 10 multi) i suggest grabbing a DFI board...u can wait for the "expert" version which has more room btween the pci-e slots, memory compatibility issues have been fixed up a bit, and there is no more SLI jumper. however, if ur not really too much into getting SLI in the future, u can just grab one of the normal ultra-d or sli-dr boards.
and thent eh sound system...creative shud stick to soundcards imo :D not to be biased or anything...but a good, cheap pair of logitech 5.1 speakers will suit most people alot better
hope this helped :)

EDIT:
its better to just grab a normal mx510 imo. most people dont need that extra 800dpi...it may make it more "accurate" but i <3 my 510 to death :p
 
omz said:
also, regarding the 4400+ x2, i wud say to grab a 3800+ x2..im going to be getting one myself this weekend and that extra money u save can go towards a better HSF and other goodies :p
if ur looking for good OCing memory (or overall memory) i suggest getting the 2x1gb pc4000 crucial ballistix. u can get the crucial tracers but hte only difference between them and the ballistix is that tracer have activity LED's and black heatspreaders vs the ballistix yellow heatspreader.
if ur looking to OC pretty far (i believe hitting 2.5 wud be 250htt w/ a stock 10 multi) i suggest grabbing a DFI board...u can wait for the "expert" version which has more room btween the pci-e slots, memory compatibility issues have been fixed up a bit, and there is no more SLI jumper. however, if ur not really too much into getting SLI in the future, u can just grab one of the normal ultra-d or sli-dr boards.
and thent eh sound system...creative shud stick to soundcards imo :D not to be biased or anything...but a good, cheap pair of logitech 5.1 speakers will suit most people alot better
hope this helped :)

EDIT:
its better to just grab a normal mx510 imo. most people dont need that extra 800dpi...it may make it more "accurate" but i <3 my 510 to death :p
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hehe... thanks for the info. I've already made the purchase. Gone with 4400+ because I thought the extra cache might help. Yet the extra cache means no extra cash for the mouse... :p

As for the memory, it seemed the retailer was very limited in choices of memory. So, i had to choose the Twinmos 1G CL2.5 PC3200.
 
if you could find some seagate drives they got 5 year warranties.
other then that looks great
 
pzGrenadier said:
Sorry for the bump, but just confirmed, my paycheck has arrived and I will go out and get my new rig in about 3 hours. :D Just wanna make sure everything is all right for the last time. :)

So, here is my component list:
Asus A8N SLI-Premium (with 98 boot disk and 1.0.0.8 BIOS ready)
AMD Athlon64 x2 4400+
Leadtek WinFast PX7800GTX Extreme
2 * 1G PC3200 Memory
Maxtor 250G 7200rpm 16MB Harddisk
Antec TruePower 550W ver.2
Creative Audigy 2 ZS
Creative Inspire T6060 5.1 Speaker
Logitech MX518 Mouse
LG 4167B dual-layer DVD burner

Please comment. :)
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Awesome.... Enough Said.
 
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