new LG's AH-IPS tech shown at SID 2011

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i saw this as well. too bad they didnt list resolutions for the new displays. the way they're talking makes me think that the resolutions are going to be increased? 24inch 2560x1600?
 
Tamahagane said:
Yeah that's what I gathered too.

2560x1600 @ 24 = 0.2019mm ... lol

Would make certain things look nicer but would be useless as an everyday normal computer display.

The 4.5" screen, 329ppi... 1280x720 on 4.5 is 326.36 so it's a res something like that.

Dot Pitch: 0.0778mm o______o


http://www.engadget.com/photos/lg-display-high-resolution-conceptual-roundup-at-sid-2011
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Um it would make everything look "nicer". The only thing you wouldn't see a benefit in is pictures and movies which have a set resolution.
 
Very low dot pitch mainly only benefit games. But some games not (can make various menus, things you click on and stuff, and/or ingame text very tiny).

Pictures appears really small and... yeah, mostly everything; webpages, OSs, programs, text, etc.

Videos don't suffer from lower dotpitch per se, when they do suffer is when they're played on a large screen, regardless of that screen's resolution.
For example, both a 1280x720 and a 640x480 video will look just fine on a 1920x1080 monitor with size of ~24", but will look crap on 30" (regardless of the native res / dotpitch on that 30").

Videos look better if the both the dotpitch and screen size are small. For example, imagine 1920x1080 at 15"; it makes movies sharper than they'd be on a 24" screen with the same res.

If mostly everything is better at ultra low dotpitch, then go get a 15" laptop with 1920x1080. Enjoy 0.173mm.

 
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Text is much nicer at high DPI. I use an IBM T221. At 200 DPI I can just zoom web pages and documents to 200%, or usually less because it's so sharp. Unfortunately Windows doesn't scale amazingly well, but it's workable at 125% font size.

Chrome and Firefox do a fine job scaling using the zoom function. Zoom in to 200% and notice how smooth everything is? Chrome and Firefox also let you specify a minimum font size to prevent stuff from being illegible.

Safari on the iPhone also demonstrates how good scaling can be. Text is nice and crisp.
 
I mean for PC use in general, not specialized hardware like an iPhone that runs its own special software. Yeah zooming in FF works great but it's stupid to have to sit and zoom all the time ~ not only is it a bother but it's also unnatural. Websites are supposed to be viewed as the their creator intended them to look. Pressing + does not equal how the page would look on a corresponding higher dotpitch monitor.

You can change stuff (menus, text, icons, etc) in Windows to appear larger but that's not optimal. Kind of the same problem there, the default look of everything gets warped by doing that. Some people may not have a problem with that (upsizing windows stuff) but to many people it would feel weird as hell.

I myself, I want my taskbar, start menu, icons and folders, etc, to all be the same size as they've been for the last ~10 years (one of the reasons I haven't bothered with Win7 -- stuff is oversized in it, looks like it was made for 5 year old children).

And if you custom upsize certain aspect of Windows, other aspects can't be upsized... and programs generally remain the way the are.

In other words, you lose homogeny... or whatever word is right to describe everything being streamlined to the same size standard. With that I mean, all programs & applications and whatnot have been made to fit in with how the OS looks like by default. I've seen some odd programs though, that have overly large design ~ and they were probably created on a very low dot pitch display, or they were using Win7, or both.

If I was given a monitor for free and I was forced to choose between a 0.25mm version of it and a 0.31mm version of it I'd pick the 0.31, just because although it would be large (and thus less smooth/clean), it would cause less problems than the 0.25mm would. On the 0.25mm I'd have to either live with everything being that small, or go and custom upsize various things (again, unnatural... not right) and leaving some things small because they can't be messed with. On the 0.31 everything would be large, but at least you wouldn't have to change the size of anything. Everything would be large, but it would all be uniformly the same large size... not all mixed/random/customized.
 
Tamahagane said:
2560x1600 @ 24 = 0.2019mm ... lol
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Well, that's not really low by my standards. I'd honestly love to have this. What I like about a low dot pitch is that it helps quite a bit with the fixed resolution issue of LCDs, by letting you pick a lower res and keep a decent sharpness.
 
Another LG ridicolous panel ?

Now relase the S-PLS panel, the answer of IPS by Samsung, same specific but with Light AG coating ! :eek:

The AH-IPS is not competitive if not use a better coating.
 
netwebber said:
Text is much nicer at high DPI. I use an IBM T221. At 200 DPI I can just zoom web pages and documents to 200%, or usually less because it's so sharp. Unfortunately Windows doesn't scale amazingly well, but it's workable at 125% font size.

Chrome and Firefox do a fine job scaling using the zoom function. Zoom in to 200% and notice how smooth everything is? Chrome and Firefox also let you specify a minimum font size to prevent stuff from being illegible.

Safari on the iPhone also demonstrates how good scaling can be. Text is nice and crisp.
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always wanted to try an IBM T221, or the viewsonic equivalent.
 
ah yes another cheaper-to-produce ips-panel
just what the market needs to further maximize lg's profit
 
I don't mind LG cutting their costs by refining their manufacturing processes, but I do have a problem if they are cutting costs by loosening tolerances, using cheaper electronics and loosening their quality control; which is what I believe they have done with so called "e-IPS" panels.
 
What quality control? Seems like all of their panels have these problems. Pink, green, yellow tint; backlight uneven and bleeding; white glow, poor contrast; and ruff AG coating.
 
daveswantek said:
What quality control? Seems like all of their panels have these problems. Pink, green, yellow tint; backlight uneven and bleeding; white glow, poor contrast; and ruff AG coating.
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My 2090UXi has no tinting, absolutely no backlight bleeding and no glow due to A-TW polarizer. Contrast is probably synthetically low, but numbers dont always translate to real world performance. the AG coating is typical of IPS panels, but it doesnt bother me as much as it seems to bother others.
 
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