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tonybcrazy

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So here is the deal, I am experiencing random crashing with a computer I just put together. This is my first build so I had a friend who is into hardware help me pick out the system.

Here are the specs:
Lian Li Case
Seasonic SS 550 HT PSU (550w)
Biostar TForce TF720 A2+ MoBo
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600 Brisbane 2.9Ghz CPU
OCZ Fatality 1066 DDR2 Kit 2x2GB Ram
Western Digital 500gb SATA HD
Samsung 22x DVD Burner
XFX GTS 250 1GB Core Edition (XFX GS250XZDFC) GPU
Samsung T220HD Monitor

The system was running great after initially putting it together until one day I was playing World at War and the comp blue screened on me. I restarted and tried playing the game again and the graphics were all messed up. I began getting graphical errors right in windows and finally the comp failed to boot with the graphics card in. It otherwise ran fine with onboard graphics so I got the card replaced by newegg and installed the new one. Now the comp randomly crashes ie the screen just freezes but with no blue screen at all. It will happen just about anytime but seems to be more frequent when watching video in a web browser or trying to do a 3dmark test. Infact I am not even able to make through an entire 3dmark test.

To fix the problem I tried a brand new antec 650w PSU, reninstalled Windows. Up'd voltages for the ram, CPU, HT, 12v rails, but nothing has worked. Also it passes the mem test. Can anyone give me some insite as to whats going on? Did I get two bad cards in a row?

I have been talking to XFX and they want me to try the card in another PC and another card in my PC but I dont know anyone with new enough gear nor do I feel like buying another card or complete system.
 
Try all of the troubleshooting steps/suggestions that are listed in the troubleshooting sticky. And let us know of your continuing progress in going through these steps.
 
I read through the sticky shortly after posting and started running through that stuff. I dl'd the ultimate boot cd and ran cpu and mem tests from that for a few hours each and the comp ran fine. I am a little weary of letting it go through either for 24 hours un-attended because if its a heat issue I dont want anything to really cook itself.

I forgot to mention I tried three different driver versions for the xfx card with drivers sweeps between each install.
 
Im running xp pro 32 and I mentioned I actually tried a brand new out of the box antec earthware 650w PSU but that didn't solve the problem.
 
how many case fans do you have.. have you reinstalled your driver... ive noticed alot of post lately about people building computers but never mention what fans they are using maybe we need to add that to the build sticky.... how many fans will you be using with this system?
 
Well bringing back an old thread. I sent my vga out for testing and its coming back with no issues. What are the odds I have a bad mobo?
 
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btw I would find a new friend to listen too, about computer hardware as he or she made some pretty poor picks for you.
 
lt_shiro said:
btw I would find a new friend to listen too, about computer hardware as he or she made some pretty poor picks for you.
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truly right.

but
The motherboard may be at fault here. I never really liked biostar or ECS. they seem to be made cheaply. try a new motherboard like a ASUS or gigabyte
 
lt_shiro said:
btw I would find a new friend to listen too, about computer hardware as he or she made some pretty poor picks for you.
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A post like this is pretty useless unless you give some explanation about your conclusions. What are the "pretty poor picks" and why exactly?

Now about the real problem at hand. I just dont understand how the computer runs absolutely fine with onboard graphics. I would think the problem would come up all the time if if were a bad mobo unless it has something to do either with the added power drain caused by the vga or from a bad pcie slot.
 
tonybcrazy said:
A post like this is pretty useless unless you give some explanation about your conclusions. What are the "pretty poor picks" and why exactly?

Now about the real problem at hand. I just dont understand how the computer runs absolutely fine with onboard graphics. I would think the problem would come up all the time if if were a bad mobo unless it has something to do either with the added power drain caused by the vga or from a bad pcie slot.
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Why is everyone calling me useless... sigh

BIOSTAR TForce TF720 A2+ this is bad choice of board as it only supports 95watt CPUs.

5600+ is old and out class by kuma series of CPUs for the same price.

timings on those OCZ memory are horrible.
 
lt_shiro said:
Why is everyone calling me useless... sigh

BIOSTAR TForce TF720 A2+ this is bad choice of board as it only supports 95watt CPUs.

5600+ is old and out class by kuma series of CPUs for the same price.

timings on those OCZ memory are horrible.
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Would a 65w processor in a 95w mobo be a problem then?
 
that would not be a problem, it just puts you into a crappy upgrade path.

But I agree with the xfx tech, test the card in another PC.
 
If you never liked Biostar, why did you go with it? In any case, Biostar's TForce lineup is decent, and much better than their standard boards.

CPU's have a mechanism for shutting down if they get too hot, so no need to worry about the CPU cooking itself. If any part should cook itself, it will get replaced by the manufacturer if it was truly at fault. Run Prime95 Small FFTs for 24hrs. Though, I doubt its the CPU.

BTW, I agree with lt shiro... if you just built this system, those parts werent very good choices. Unless you got uber deals on those parts, there were better performing parts for the same or similar money.

I also agree that you should try another card in your system. Find a friend with any PCI-E card and run 3DMark and/or Furmark. It could be a bad PCI-E slot. /shrug
 
I will try the Prime95 for 24hrs I guess.

I built the system atleast 4 months ago and everything I bought had some kind of special with it plus I wasn't out to get the utmost performance and I dont really have plans to overclock. I am also very new to building my own systems and dont have enough free time to go and spend hours and hours researching component specs, so I left it up to my friend sand he admittedly hadn't been super up to date with the newest hardware. It was mostly built for a CAD station and casual gaming and entertainment machine which I think it should be able to do once I get the video problem sorted.

Who was "If you never liked Biostar, why did you go with it?" directed at?
 
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