I have been working on my first computer all day today and fixed several problems with it, but now one has me stumped. The computer boots up fine, but it just stays at the "Detecting IDE drives". This is odd because before the other problems ( See my speaker sounds like a ambulance) it booted up just fine. I tryed replugging in all the cables and its still not working. Any ideas?
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Ice Czar
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most likely an incorrectly configuered jumper
make sure that there are only masters at the end of the cable, that there are no slaves without masters
that you dont have a HDD set to single when a slave is present
or master with slave when there isnt
many mobos still ship with both 40 wire and 80 wire cables
make sure only opticals are any 40 wire cable (best not to use them anyway but doesnt hurt an optical)
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=741512
> Physical configuration
make sure that there are only masters at the end of the cable, that there are no slaves without masters
that you dont have a HDD set to single when a slave is present
or master with slave when there isnt
many mobos still ship with both 40 wire and 80 wire cables
make sure only opticals are any 40 wire cable (best not to use them anyway but doesnt hurt an optical)
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=741512
> Physical configuration
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Ice Czar
Guest
and then...
First verify you cables are correctly connected, both power and data
Verify your properly jumpered,
If using Cable Select that both drives on the same channel (cable) are using it.
If your using Master and Slave setting
Verify your jumpers, Master at the end of the cable, no Slave without a Master
that If there is a Master with a Slave present it not jumpered to Single
and if there is a Single Master its not Jumpered to Master with Slave present
http://www.plasma-online.de/ >Solutions > Verifying DMI Pool Data in Windows (all versions)
Description
Verifying DMI Pool Data in Windows
The Desktop Management Interface (DMI) is a new method of managing computers in an enterprise. The main component of DMI is the Management Information Format Database, or MIFD (the DMI Pool Data). This database contains all the information about the computing system and its components. At times, some systems may experience a hang condition after partitioning, formatting and initial boot-up of a hard drive. In Windows 95 and 98, changes to the motherboards BIOS settings, changes in hard drives or to hard drive settings alters this pool data. The message, "Verifying DMI Pool Data" appears and the system hangs. This condition may continue even after the physical drive has been removed from the system.
Solution
Method One:
- Apply power to the computer.
- Access the system BIOS.
- Set "Reset configuration data" to enable (most likely to be found in PCI/PnP section of BIOS) often as Force Update ESCD (Extended System Configuration Data)* not all BIOS have that
- Save the BIOS changes and restart PC.
Method Two:
- Apply power to the computer.
- Access the system BIOS.
- Set the drive type as None or Not Installed.
- Then Load the BIOS Defaults
- Then Load the SETUP Defaults
- Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette.
- Shut down the PC after the memory count is displayed.
- Reconnect the power and interface cables to the hard drive.
- Access the System BIOS.
- Auto-Detect the hard drive. Ensure that the LBA Mode option is enabled.
- Save the BIOS changes and restart the PC with a System Diskette.
- Partition and format the hard drive via the operating system.
- Restart the system. On boot, the screen should read:
Verifying DMI Pool Data
Update Successful
- The system should continue booting normally.
Method Three:
- Apply power to the computer.
- Access the System BIOS.
- Disable both the Internal and External CPU Cache. These features are located in either the "BIOS Features" or "Advanced Settings" menu.
- Save the BIOS changes and restart the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On startup, the screen should read:
Verifying DMI Pool Data
Update Successful
- The system should continue booting normally.
- After the system successfully boots, re-start the PC and access the system BIOS.
- Enable the Internal and External CPU Cache.
- Save the BIOS changes and restart the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On startup, the screen should read:
Verifying DMI Pool Data
Update Successful
- The system should continue booting normally.
NOTE: If the above mentioned methods fail to resolve the issue, contact the system or motherboard manufacturer to either clear the CMOS or update the BIOS for your motherboard. This will entail either:
- Removing the "Clear CMOS" Jumper and resetting the system BIOS or:
- Obtaining and applying a Flash BIOS Upgrade for your motherboard.
try the cache trick, then the clear CMOS if niether of those works
you might have a corrupted BIOS
have you ever flashed a BIOS?
*while Force Update Extended System Configuration Data, technically is applicable to only PNP Peripherals, for some reason it seems to resolved this issue as well. Even though the HDDs have a dedicated UDMA memory allocation
First verify you cables are correctly connected, both power and data
Verify your properly jumpered,
If using Cable Select that both drives on the same channel (cable) are using it.
If your using Master and Slave setting
Verify your jumpers, Master at the end of the cable, no Slave without a Master
that If there is a Master with a Slave present it not jumpered to Single
and if there is a Single Master its not Jumpered to Master with Slave present
http://www.plasma-online.de/ >Solutions > Verifying DMI Pool Data in Windows (all versions)
Description
Verifying DMI Pool Data in Windows
The Desktop Management Interface (DMI) is a new method of managing computers in an enterprise. The main component of DMI is the Management Information Format Database, or MIFD (the DMI Pool Data). This database contains all the information about the computing system and its components. At times, some systems may experience a hang condition after partitioning, formatting and initial boot-up of a hard drive. In Windows 95 and 98, changes to the motherboards BIOS settings, changes in hard drives or to hard drive settings alters this pool data. The message, "Verifying DMI Pool Data" appears and the system hangs. This condition may continue even after the physical drive has been removed from the system.
Solution
Method One:
- Apply power to the computer.
- Access the system BIOS.
- Set "Reset configuration data" to enable (most likely to be found in PCI/PnP section of BIOS) often as Force Update ESCD (Extended System Configuration Data)* not all BIOS have that
- Save the BIOS changes and restart PC.
Method Two:
- Apply power to the computer.
- Access the system BIOS.
- Set the drive type as None or Not Installed.
- Then Load the BIOS Defaults
- Then Load the SETUP Defaults
- Save the BIOS changes and reboot the PC to a System Boot Diskette.
- Shut down the PC after the memory count is displayed.
- Reconnect the power and interface cables to the hard drive.
- Access the System BIOS.
- Auto-Detect the hard drive. Ensure that the LBA Mode option is enabled.
- Save the BIOS changes and restart the PC with a System Diskette.
- Partition and format the hard drive via the operating system.
- Restart the system. On boot, the screen should read:
Verifying DMI Pool Data
Update Successful
- The system should continue booting normally.
Method Three:
- Apply power to the computer.
- Access the System BIOS.
- Disable both the Internal and External CPU Cache. These features are located in either the "BIOS Features" or "Advanced Settings" menu.
- Save the BIOS changes and restart the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On startup, the screen should read:
Verifying DMI Pool Data
Update Successful
- The system should continue booting normally.
- After the system successfully boots, re-start the PC and access the system BIOS.
- Enable the Internal and External CPU Cache.
- Save the BIOS changes and restart the PC to a System Boot Diskette. On startup, the screen should read:
Verifying DMI Pool Data
Update Successful
- The system should continue booting normally.
NOTE: If the above mentioned methods fail to resolve the issue, contact the system or motherboard manufacturer to either clear the CMOS or update the BIOS for your motherboard. This will entail either:
- Removing the "Clear CMOS" Jumper and resetting the system BIOS or:
- Obtaining and applying a Flash BIOS Upgrade for your motherboard.
try the cache trick, then the clear CMOS if niether of those works
you might have a corrupted BIOS
have you ever flashed a BIOS?
*while Force Update Extended System Configuration Data, technically is applicable to only PNP Peripherals, for some reason it seems to resolved this issue as well. Even though the HDDs have a dedicated UDMA memory allocation
still nothing is working.... I even tryed swtiching harddrives and it still dosent work. It wont let me accsess the bios either cause the computer just stops at the detecting the IDE drives and does nothing else, but when I unplug the harddrive it goes past it just fine. Any ideas for that?
maxelhombre
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Try booting with just the harddrive plugged in and it configured as a single drive on the primary channel. It sounds like either a device conflict or a possibly bad cable.
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Ice Czar
Guest
^ Good advice
simplify the problem and switch out cables
however which mobo it is? and what drives/ in what config? will also help
could be a BIOS option issue (especially if there is a mix of SATA & IDE)
simplify the problem and switch out cables
however which mobo it is? and what drives/ in what config? will also help
could be a BIOS option issue (especially if there is a mix of SATA & IDE)
Allright, I have tryed 3 different hardrives and multiple cables and I still get nothing. Twice after I switched a cable did it read the hardrive and halfway through loading windows the monitor would just shut off and the computer would freeze. I am thinking it may be the motherboard and that I should just get a replacement, but if anyone has any other ideas, let me know.
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