MIT Students Fighting The RIAA

[HOCP4ME]

F: Make a clone of that exact computer bestbuy has at no cost to you and at no cost to the company or factory, literally a clone double.

You can't do that, and if you could, it would be illegal as it should be.

Hey, I agree that it would be awesome if music and movies were free to use and distribute and you just paid the artists if you thought the music was worth it. But until the copyright owners decide that they want their property to be distributed in that manner, we have to respect what they want to pay for the music.

A movement towards free distribution has already started with the recent popularity of DRM-free music. So let's show the record companies that we like that direction by not pirating and buying the DRM-free music.

 

[aikjo2]

You can't do that, and if you could, it would be illegal as it should be.

Hey, I agree that it would be awesome if music and movies were free to use and distribute and you just paid the artists if you thought the music was worth it. But until the copyright owners decide that they want their property to be distributed in that manner, we have to respect what they want to pay for the music.

A movement towards free distribution has already started with the recent popularity of DRM-free music. So let's show the record companies that we like that direction by not pirating and buying the DRM-free music.

If you could then you would have invested the resources to "done" a pcs then you have invested enough in the process that it would be legal. The patent infringement of creating an eMachines or DELL logo is where it becomes illegal

 

[aikjo2]

"clone" not "done"... silly tablet...

 

[farfromhome]

If you could then you would have invested the resources to "clone" a pcs then you have invested enough in the process that it would be legal. The patent infringement of creating an eMachines or DELL logo is where it becomes illegal

I believe you mean trademark issue with the logo. And I agree, eMachines/Dell/etc... would be owed nothing from it, as they merely non-creatively (but with as many corners cut as possible) slap together commodity parts. They would be irrelevant, and justly die with replicators if they didn't form a new *AA and bribe legislators into drafting draconian laws to protect their business model. It would be Intel/AMD/NVIDIA/ASUS/MSI/etc.. who would deserve some kind of compensation for all the R&D they put in to design the components instead in that case. Still, the artificial scarcity method right now used with copyright works poorly there, and would still work poorly in that kind of world. We, as a society, need to come up with new, creative ways to reward the innovators in society, as our current model basically just punishes the consumer, over-rewards the middle-man at the cost of the initial innovator often-times, and creates a scarcity where none should exist.

 

[xxGriff]

Copyright laws are in dire need of review and/or overhaul. plain and simple, but the way/manner in which we address this and other copyright issues in a digital age is something of a quagmire.

personally as a musician, i don't care if a person who buys our CD or a single song takes our song and listens to it on their iPod, computer or in their car. they bought the right to listen to it any where they want. i do not want my music pirated, or used without my express consent to make another entity money or taking away income i may have gotten if my copyright was respected and observed. the DMCA has so many restrictions that it can effectively render any media purchased in a digital format a single use purchase.

whether some one thinks or feels an artists is not entitled to be compensated for their work is missing the point. the issue (to me) is: is the product something you want? if you answer yes, then buy it. if i offer my product at a price you find agreeable, then please buy it. if i price myself out of a customer's pocket/budget that is my fault.

and believe me writing music and performing is WORK. a labor of love for me, but work none the less.

 

[HOCP4ME]

If you could then you would have invested the resources to "done" a pcs then you have invested enough in the process that it would be legal. The patent infringement of creating an eMachines or DELL logo is where it becomes illegal

Okay, I'll buy that. In that case, music is akin to the eMachines or Dell logo as it is also IP.

 

[aikjo2]

Okay, I'll buy that. In that case, music is akin to the eMachines or Dell logo as it is also IP.

Precisely. It is not the lyrics or harmonics that make up the property of a song, but the the Idea of the song. Notes on a page, words, humming as you walk down the street, whistling in the park, all are music. The thing that you sell when you sell music is the right to enjoy the IP as created by another.