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MagiCool XTREME QUAD 480 Radiator

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Limp Gawd
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Anyone ever use this rad?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=200&products_id=21621

I'm currently designing my own case and have plans to run SLi at some point and I doubt my Swiftech Radiator - MCR220 Quiet Power Series Dual rad will be enough for the CPU (C2D e6400) and two 8800 GTX cards. So while I'm in the design phase I was looking into a new rad and found this one.

Size wise it's perfect for what I need since my case will be 12X12X10 (WxDxH).
Dimensions: 267 x 241 x 46mm (WxDxH) (9.5" X 10.5" X 1.8")

They say is can be run passively but I have plans to use 2 120mm fans with room for all 4 if I needed to (hoping I don't).

Anyone have any input on this product? I search but didn't find anything.
 
I thought after a certain amount of rad surface area it stops being effective to add more.

Ideally I thought people want the triple rads.

This is all based on my observations though.
 
[IO]ERROR;1031065228 said:
Anyone ever use this rad?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=200&products_id=21621

I'm currently designing my own case and have plans to run SLi at some point and I doubt my Swiftech Radiator - MCR220 Quiet Power Series Dual rad will be enough for the CPU (C2D e6400) and two 8800 GTX cards. So while I'm in the design phase I was looking into a new rad and found this one.

Size wise it's perfect for what I need since my case will be 12X12X10 (WxDxH).
Dimensions: 267 x 241 x 46mm (WxDxH) (9.5" X 10.5" X 1.8")

They say is can be run passively but I have plans to use 2 120mm fans with room for all 4 if I needed to (hoping I don't).

Anyone have any input on this product? I search but didn't find anything.
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You'll need a heck of a pump to push through all that restriction. Most enthusiasts just don't bother with that line of products as the thing kills flow. We can't even imagine what type of pump would be needed for the 9x120mm... probably a fire hydrant.
 
Riddlinkidstoner said:
I thought after a certain amount of rad surface area it stops being effective to add more.

Ideally I thought people want the triple rads.

This is all based on my observations though.
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I'm not saying you are wrong but that just seems odd to me. Any surface area is going to cool down the water as long as the water isn't equal to it's it's max cooling value. Granted if the water hits it's max cooling value 1/2 way thru the rad then all the rest of the surface area is dead space. But the idea that surface space is a waste after X size makes no sense to me.

No doubt the ideal setup with me a rad before each block. This would make 2 240 rads work better then a single 480 rad but that then brings up head room at which point you might need to add another pump which brings heat to the loop.

My case design wont let me use a single 360 rad. It's just too long. Adding a pump to the loop and running 2 240's might be ideal but costs a lot more and uses more space.

I'm hoping for a loop like this..
Rad --> CPU --> GPU1 --> GPU2 --> Pump -->
 
Ranker said:
You'll need a heck of a pump to push through all that restriction. Most enthusiasts just don't bother with that line of products as the thing kills flow. We can't even imagine what type of pump would be needed for the 9x120mm... probably a fire hydrant.
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I currently run the same pump as you.. DDC-2 w/ Petra's top.
 
I guess what I was trying to say was you can't cool water past ambient and a triple rad should suffice even for the most grueling setups. I could be wrong though, maybe SLI gpus would put out enough heat to make 4+ rads useful. I dunno...I'm just tossing out my useless thoughts here. :D
 
Riddlinkidstoner said:
I thought after a certain amount of rad surface area it stops being effective to add more.

Ideally I thought people want the triple rads.

This is all based on my observations though.
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It stops being effective if you're not adding any heat to the loop as well as surface area. Generally, for each 120mm fan slot you use, you can dissipate 120-175w of heat (provided your pump can keep a good flow-rate). If you add in a 6.120 radiator, but only dump 300w of heat in your loop, no more than 2 or 3 of the radiator 120fan mounts are going to do anything...

This has no bearing on noise. A quad radiator with 4 fans @ 5v might dissipate just under what a double radiator can dissipate with the fans at 12v, so larger radiators can cool just as much as smaller ones, but with slower fans.

And of course, that's very simplified... Flow-rates, temperature deltas and pressure drops arn't factored into this, as that's outside the scope of this discussion alltogether!
 
dual HD 2900 XTs and quad core all over clocked would exceed what even a PA120.3 could cool, well maybe not with 6 113CFM fans in push pull going full tilt but your ears would start bleeding.

Edit: Arcy beat me to it
 
That 9 x 120mm radiator worth every penny. I have 2 X 320MCR radiators running passive. :D
 
I would buy 9 x 120mm instead of Quad, it is only $50 more and 5 more fans and surface area.
 
At that size, you should be able to run passively in most situations, or just stick a box fan near it at the lowest possible fan setting.
 
I think people aren't seeing the problem here. Anything short of an RD-30 won't be pushing water through that 9x120mm rad.
 
Somebody needs to get a couple of those and run some tests.
 
Sure... 18 internal loops within that radiator and you think a D5 of all pumps can handle that optimally? LOL

Please don't spout nonsense.
 
Arcygenical said:
It stops being effective if you're not adding any heat to the loop as well as surface area. Generally, for each 120mm fan slot you use, you can dissipate 120-175w of heat (provided your pump can keep a good flow-rate). If you add in a 6.120 radiator, but only dump 300w of heat in your loop, no more than 2 or 3 of the radiator 120fan mounts are going to do anything...
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correct but i wanted to add you might see better temps at first simply because there is a hell of alot more water in the 9x120 then in a 2 or 3x120 and it takes that much longer to reach a stable temp.

Ranker said:
Sure... 18 internal loops within that radiator and you think a D5 of all pumps can handle that optimally? LOL
Please don't spout nonsense.
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my quad 120mm heatercore has 12 internal loops, i have 4 water blocks in the loop, and my D5 has no problems whatsoever. there might be a small drop in flowrate with an additional 6 passes but its not going to kill it.
 
Ranker said:
Sure... 18 internal loops within that radiator and you think a D5 of all pumps can handle that optimally? LOL

Please don't spout nonsense.
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I got 2 X MCR320 Radiators with 2 Blocks in loop, and MCP655 has no problem at all. The movement of coolant in the reservior is like a huricane in the water.
 
ghost6303 said:
correct but i wanted to add you might see better temps at first simply because there is a hell of alot more water in the 9x120 then in a 2 or 3x120 and it takes that much longer to reach a stable temp.


my quad 120mm heatercore has 12 internal loops, i have 4 water blocks in the loop, and my D5 has no problems whatsoever. there might be a small drop in flowrate with an additional 6 passes but its not going to kill it.
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More water, more internal radiator bends, more tubing, more restriction: all lead towards higher temps.

Most pumps in our hobby will be able to push water through the loops. However, the problem is the hit on flowrate will be so substantial that there will be no gain in performance. If anything there will be a performance hit. One needs a powerful pump. Anything less than a DDC-2 won't cut it. Heck, I doubt one DDC-2 will result in optimal flow. It's the same reason why radiators in series can result in worse temps if adequate flow rate isn't maintained.

You will need a powerful pump in order to use the radiator and not suffer a performance hit.
 
Seems like another German company, but contact info is in China...

If you get one, let us all know about their product quality
 
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