Ok mt HDTV just took a crap after 5 yrs. It was a rear projection. I am now in the market for a LCD or a Plasma. I would like to hear from all that have an idea of witch way i should go. I think a LCD would be the way just becouse it takes less power and is a little cheaper. But what is the beter TV?
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LCD or Plsma?
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The-One said:
OH ya but i'm not going 8 grand on a tv lmfao
How much (do) want/can you to spend ???
Sharp LC52D62U 52" HD LCD TV - (LC-52D62U)
$3,735.00
http://www.brightandsleek.com/Produ...2U&utm_campaign=LC52D62U&ProductCode=LC52D62U
Sharp LC52D62U 52" HD LCD TV - (LC-52D62U)
$3,735.00
http://www.brightandsleek.com/Produ...2U&utm_campaign=LC52D62U&ProductCode=LC52D62U
Okay, maybe your on a budget alittle better then mine.
How about this...
Westinghouse - LVM-42w2 42" 1080p LCD Monitor
http://www2.butterflyphoto.com/shop...- 40 60 Inch-_-LVM-42w2 42" 1080p LCD Monitor
How about this...
Westinghouse - LVM-42w2 42" 1080p LCD Monitor
http://www2.butterflyphoto.com/shop...- 40 60 Inch-_-LVM-42w2 42" 1080p LCD Monitor
joemama said:reading your sig and then seeing this post...I lolled
edit- to the OP...I am partial to plasma, and Panasonic in particular. Not because Panny is the absolute best plasma but they are the best value for price/performance imo.
Sir, are you implying I'm being dishonest...
I borrowed those links off of my friend.
He will be back around shortly thinks to the great admins around here.
And he has a good point, Panasonics are pretty good Plasma manufacturers.
But 1080P 42" LCD's are better than a 42" Plasma with a small resolution.
At least that's what I'm guessing.
Actually, that's a question I need an answer to if anyone owns one of each ?
Well, imo 1080p is not only overrated but also damn near useless in the near foreseeable future...regular SD digital content (90% of what you will watch mostly) doesn't play well when you try to display it in super high res. This is an awesome deal http://compusa.shoplocal.com/compus...d=CompUSA-061001&promotioncode=CompUSA-061001 for the consumer model of the same Panasonic plasma (I have the commercial) that I own. With one of these..and investing in a good hardware calibrator like the SpyderTV, you won't feel like you're missing out on anything.The-One said:Sir, are you implying I'm being dishonest...
I borrowed those links off of my friend.
He will be back around shortly thinks to the great admins around here.
And he has a good point, Panasonics are pretty good Plasma manufacturers.
But 1080P 42" LCD's are better than a 42" Plasma with a small resolution.
At least that's what I'm guessing.
Actually, that's a question I need an answer to if anyone owns one of each ?
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I've never really understood the hype about Plasma screens. IMO Their pictures has always been inferior to LCD as far as details and clarity are concerned (this is comparing the best against the best). Sure, they had better colors but that's about it. I do not recommend Plasma to anyone, so buy an LCD and be happy.
joemama: While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I must disagree and say that 1080p is not overrated. Larger screens demand more resolution. My 96" screen looks very good when I through a SD signal on their, but doesn't even compare to HDTV and my HD DVDs. I would say that 1080p is not a necessity today, however. Unless you plan to be an early adopter like me and use HDDVD or BluRay you will have no 1080p sources. I'd say just fine a tv within your budget that handles 720p & 1080i very well. Nearly all HD broadcasts are 1080i and will be for quite a few years.
joemama: While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I must disagree and say that 1080p is not overrated. Larger screens demand more resolution. My 96" screen looks very good when I through a SD signal on their, but doesn't even compare to HDTV and my HD DVDs. I would say that 1080p is not a necessity today, however. Unless you plan to be an early adopter like me and use HDDVD or BluRay you will have no 1080p sources. I'd say just fine a tv within your budget that handles 720p & 1080i very well. Nearly all HD broadcasts are 1080i and will be for quite a few years.
I've been unimpressed with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray so far and I certainly won't invest in hardware until a clear winner emerges. I have an up-converting LG dvd player feeding my Panny plasma and I can't imagine needing better PQ than that...even my friend who has a Toshiba HD-DVD hooked to his Sony HD lcd-rptv admits that mine is actually better. Of course I have spent hours tweaking my Panny with a hardware calibrator and digging into the service menu...but even before that my set looked better for standard definition digital tv.PCMusicGuy said:I've never really understood the hype about Plasma screens. IMO Their pictures has always been inferior to LCD as far as details and clarity are concerned (this is comparing the best against the best). Sure, they had better colors but that's about it. I do not recommend Plasma to anyone, so buy an LCD and be happy.
joemama: While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I must disagree and say that 1080p is not overrated. Larger screens demand more resolution. My 96" screen looks very good when I through a SD signal on their, but doesn't even compare to HDTV and my HD DVDs. I would say that 1080p is not a necessity today, however. Unless you plan to be an early adopter like me and use HDDVD or BluRay you will have no 1080p sources. I'd say just fine a tv within your budget that handles 720p & 1080i very well. Nearly all HD broadcasts are 1080i and will be for quite a few years.
joemama said:
I would never go HD and not get 1080P.
That just wouldn't be worth it.
I would rather just watch SDTV and save money.
Question:
Are you saying that all Time Warners HD stations are 1080i/720p ?
Everyone single one of them ?
If that's true then that sucks.
So does any digital content provider offer true 1080P HD ?
Not a single one...hell, there are many who have yet to jump to regular HD! Also from that Time Warner list....the regular networks don't broadcast everything in HD...only some sports and selected prime-time shows. If you buy a tv now you will be ready for a new set anyway long before 1080p becomes a necessity.The-One said:
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From what I've read, 1080p on a smaller LCD (less than 50") is pretty useless unless you watch TV really, really close. Or, if you use it for a computer monitor. People get carried away with spec sheets and useless metrics like contrast ratios, etc. Makes in entertaining though...
While my post in this thread was prasing of LCD's, the major thing that sets the two technologies apart in picture quality is black level/shadow detail where plasma wins always, and by a good margin. Obviously the screens have to be properly calibrated, so if you're looking at TV's at a store where they're all set to 100 brightness and contrast you might not notice. It's like looking at pure black ink versus grey charcol. LCD has gotten better though, and with LED backlights it will be harder to tell the difference.
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Plasma : superior black levels and greyscale detail. Makes all the difference for movies. Dark scenes are icky on an LCD and generally look like ass. Have a salesguy hook up a couple of DVD players and try playing something like the Mines of Moria scene from Fellowship of the Ring on both displays.
Now if you have a very bright room with a lot of sunlight, or watch mostly bright daylight TV like sports or something, go with an LCD. They perform better in bright conditions. The black level difference between an LCD and a display with actual good black detail is minimal if you've got a room flooded with sunlight. And thanks to not having a glass panel, they have less light reflection going on.
Now if you have a very bright room with a lot of sunlight, or watch mostly bright daylight TV like sports or something, go with an LCD. They perform better in bright conditions. The black level difference between an LCD and a display with actual good black detail is minimal if you've got a room flooded with sunlight. And thanks to not having a glass panel, they have less light reflection going on.
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joemama said:
Before my HD DVD player I used my Oppo DV971H player and while it certainly kicked butt, it doesn't compare to HD DVD if it's properly setup. I know it certainly easy to tell the difference on my setup. Sounds to me like you need to calibrate your friends setup.
sdspark58 said:
Honestly what do you want to use it for? Plasma's inch for inch are close to 1/2 the cost of LCD's but there are several advantages to LCD's.
I am buying the 52 inch Sharp Aquos in about a week. I plan on playing the Wii and porting my computer via hdmi to it as well. Have to know what your using it for to give you a valide response.
Sunin
The-One said:Plasmas are half the cost of LCD's ???
And that sharp Aquos 52" is a nice TV.
Of course I don't own one but it looks nice.
Everytime I look at Best buy the Plasma's are considerably cheaper then the equivalent LCD's. They have also been out longer and are more matured, but they do have a few problems. If your just using it as a TV I'm sure it will work just fine, for me, I'm using it as a multimedia center / gaming center and truthfully I don't want to see mario's head etched into a 52 inch plasma
My current rear projection 50 inch Hitachi ex lasted over 10yrs, cost me 2500 at the time, so I'm shooting about 1500 higher and getting something a lot more skinny which will fit my 600sqft condo a whole lot better!
Sunin
ABSOLUTELY.GreenMonkey said:
LCD is GREAT for monitors. Sucks for TV and movies. Sucks *balls* for TV and movies, in fact.
This is the one caveat. LCD is an acceptable choice for a bright room during the daytime.. but watching a movie at night sucks. My plasma looks great during the day, but reflections off the glass can be somewhat annoying at times.GreenMonkey said:
kumquat said:
LOL, LCD sucks for movies? Well yeah if your not running a 1080i or 1080p signal it will, I've seen both a plasma and a next gen LCD side by side with the exact same signal and the differences in black levels, clarity and such were hardly noticeable and I'm very picky when it comes ot artifacting and blurring during motion and could not notice any descernable difference.
Now my DVD player will up convert to 1080i and it should look just fine, no HD there but once they come out with 1080p HD DVD as a single standard I'm all over that. I'll pit the new aquos 52 LCD against any plasma and I bet the differences are neglible.
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I returned my Westy 42" for an SXRD A2000. Doesn't quite fit your criteria, can't hang it on the wall, but I love it. I mean I'd love a Pioneer Elite plasma, but I think for the money I get much better PQ when it pertains to plasmas for mere mortals. Just takes some conideration as to placement and so on. That's where any of my main drawbacks as to PQ would be. For $2050, 50", I got a lot of bang for the buck.
LCDs, hmm I'm not sold on them for TVs. Even high end ones suffer from woefully uneven colors in dark scenes. Unless of course you throw money at the problem again, the sick LCD's not so much. Buy the latest Bravia XBR's (like ~3k for 40") and it's hard to believe it's an LCD.
I just see the common faults in either until you go high-end. If you have a lot of dough, Pioneer Elite 1080p 60" plasma dude!!!!!
LCDs, hmm I'm not sold on them for TVs. Even high end ones suffer from woefully uneven colors in dark scenes. Unless of course you throw money at the problem again, the sick LCD's not so much. Buy the latest Bravia XBR's (like ~3k for 40") and it's hard to believe it's an LCD.
I just see the common faults in either until you go high-end. If you have a lot of dough, Pioneer Elite 1080p 60" plasma dude!!!!!
travbomb said:
PBS is only 1080i from what this site says.
http://www.hdtvpub.com/local/statio...ation_774/name_WCNY-DT/zipcode_13204/net_PBS/
So I'm guessing that not one tv stattion uses true 1080P ?
Wow, i'm wordless
That is correct..not a single one. Except for the special "HD networks" that you have to pay extra for...none of the networks who broadcast in HD do every show that way. As for the big 3 networks you have to wait until 7pm to get HD and then again that depends on your local station coughing up the big bucks for the equipment...if you live in a small market there is a good chance you get very little HD. When networks are pressed about when they will go to 1080p they are very vague and evasive.....I wouldn't worry about buying a 1080p capable set unless you plan to also buy HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.The-One said:
joemama said:Daaaamn...if I had your kind of money I would burn all of mine.
LOL this was my first major purchase in over 4 yrs!! My last biggest purchase was the DS, with like 5 games for a couple hundred bucks.
Sunin
I'm partial to plasma..I have a 42" Panasonic that cost roughly half what yours did but if I were going to buy an lcd tv it would be the Sharp Aquos line. Very nice set you've got coming..enjoy.Sunin said:
edit- Consider investing in a Colorvision SpyderTV calibrator to get everything you can out of that set..
Then yes I would 100% recommend the Sharp Aquos 52 LCD, when you eventually go HD DVD, and eventually hook your comp to the LCD there will be no comparison with a full 1920x1080. I just laid the benjamin's down for the TV at $4,050 from best buy. They have 3 left in stock for this entire area.
Good luck with whatever your choice is... I'll post some 1080i pics sometime this weekend if that helps your decision, and some full Oblivion pics at 1920x1080. Man I hope my FPS don't drop insanely (I'm at 1600x1200 now)
Again good luck,
Sunin
Good luck with whatever your choice is... I'll post some 1080i pics sometime this weekend if that helps your decision, and some full Oblivion pics at 1920x1080. Man I hope my FPS don't drop insanely (I'm at 1600x1200 now)
Again good luck,
Sunin