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Just installed second system

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I just got done starting up this computer with my new water setup. My first with A64, second overall. I'll get pics up soon, I just wanted to share the excitement. so far temps at idle are 24C in a 75F room. can't complain about that. I'll ramp up some benchmarks soon to test load.
 
24C in 75F? hmmm.......what are your specs? Maybe it is because I run a prescott, but I find this very hard to believe. I'm sure I find it hard to believe because of my prescott....

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bigbadgreen said:
I just got done starting up this computer with my new water setup. My first with A64, second overall. I'll get pics up soon, I just wanted to share the excitement. so far temps at idle are 24C in a 75F room. can't complain about that. I'll ramp up some benchmarks soon to test load.

What temps?
 
ok did some test runs. here's the answers to the questions. 24C in a 75F room at idle, it could be due to sensor error but that's ambient. take into consideration that this system isn't overclocked yet. At full load (torture test: max heat in Prime95) I hit 31C. I've had the loop running constantly for around 12 hours now, with several restarts to restart the temp monitoring software (MSI Corecenter). This program relies on the bios. I'll be sticking a digital thermometer in the water to determine if the sensor is off. I'm also only running a cpu loop, no chipset or gpu block yet.

Here is the system specs. It's a homemade system. I'm using a TDX block, 1/2" all around, the radiator is a 1995 mustang heater core, modded to fit 1/2" (I soldered 1/2" barbs onto the in and out) a little giant 300gph pond pump, and two 120mm fans running at 2800rpm. a homemade fan shroud made from cardboard and sealed with tape. the whole system is right now sitting on top of my computer until I stop being lazy and bend the panels from aluminum sheet I have and cover it.

To answer if this system is better than the 1800XP, in terms of temps it follows along the same readings. the XP ran a little hotter but it was also overclocked pretty high. I would usually run around 2-3C higher than ambient. I'm actually expecting this system to creep up in temps slightly when I OC it. I wouldn't be suprised if I was in the 30C range.
 
bigbadgreen said:
ok did some test runs. here's the answers to the questions. 24C in a 75F room at idle, it could be due to sensor error but that's ambient. take into consideration that this system isn't overclocked yet. At full load (torture test: max heat in Prime95) I hit 31C. I've had the loop running constantly for around 12 hours now, with several restarts to restart the temp monitoring software (MSI Corecenter). This program relies on the bios. I'll be sticking a digital thermometer in the water to determine if the sensor is off. I'm also only running a cpu loop, no chipset or gpu block yet.

Here is the system specs. It's a homemade system. I'm using a TDX block, 1/2" all around, the radiator is a 1995 mustang heater core, modded to fit 1/2" (I soldered 1/2" barbs onto the in and out) a little giant 300gph pond pump, and two 120mm fans running at 2800rpm. a homemade fan shroud made from cardboard and sealed with tape. the whole system is right now sitting on top of my computer until I stop being lazy and bend the panels from aluminum sheet I have and cover it.

To answer if this system is better than the 1800XP, in terms of temps it follows along the same readings. the XP ran a little hotter but it was also overclocked pretty high. I would usually run around 2-3C higher than ambient. I'm actually expecting this system to creep up in temps slightly when I OC it. I wouldn't be suprised if I was in the 30C range.

Try motherboard monitor for temp monitoring
 
theseeker said:
Try motherboard monitor for temp monitoring

It won't matter, both MBM and CoreCenter both read the exact same because they read from the same place.
 
They all take their reading from the bios, that is unless you installed a after market sensor................ :D
 
ok ok ok, chalk this one up to lots of optimism and a needed bios update. There was a new bios. To make a long story short the issue it addressed was an incorrect temp reading. My current temps are 40C idle 46C load. Still not bad, on the previous bios the air temps were reading 52-56C idle. which was the main reason for me going back to water. I hope this clears some things up and remember to check your bios versions.
 
Bio-Hazard said:
They all take their reading from the bios, that is unless you installed a after market sensor................ :D

Thats why I like the Aquaero with all the sensors, takes out the guesswork :cool:
 
Even those don't get all that close.............:) They can only get the temp of the IHS or the block it's self, so it's still a guess. The bios could even be closer depending on the MoBo makers bios programing. Each different method should only be used as a indicator of possible problems and shouldn't be used to compare temps between different systems, there's way to many variables involved.............:)
 
my AMD 64 Shuttle runs at the same temps on air, might hit 46C folding 100% and it's warm in my room
 
Just a little example for you all, I tested the APEX kit on a Abit AV8 MoBo using 2 different bios, the latest was SUPPOSED to correct the bios temp readings.

With bios 20 at stock settings I got a idle temp of 31c and a load of 39c. This bios was know to read very high, and then I tried the newest version 24 bios and I got a idle of 20c and load of 29c. That a 10c differance in load and idle temps on the complete same setup. So whick one is right and which one is wrong? Are either one of them close? I also took the temps with a compu nurse digital thermometer attached to the side of the IHS and the temps I got basicly split the 2 different bios readings..
 
Bio-Hazard said:
Just a little example for you all, I tested the APEX kit on a Abit AV8 MoBo using 2 different bios, the latest was SUPPOSED to correct the bios temp readings.

With bios 20 at stock settings I got a idle temp of 31c and a load of 39c. This bios was know to read very high, and then I tried the newest version 24 bios and I got a idle of 20c and load of 29c. That a 10c differance in load and idle temps on the complete same setup. So whick one is right and which one is wrong? Are either one of them close? I also took the temps with a compu nurse digital thermometer attached to the side of the IHS and the temps I got basicly split the 2 different bios readings..


Lol, That's why I continue to preach that all this "what your temps" stuff is useless. You can only compare temps between the same system, and even as you pointed out the same bios revision.

I have the same mobo, and my temps dropped from 50* idle to 40* idle with the 24 bios. But it did improve stability and my overclocking...
 
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