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Intel says stop overclocking your 7700k
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So it is confirmed, you are a troll.
Now we are picking random CPUs to bitch ANYTHING about, which has no relation to the auto OCing temps people don't like on the 7700k.
The 2500 came with HD 2000 iGPU while the 2500K came with HD 3000 iGPU, one of the very large changes to Intels iGPU, this gen change saw around a 50-70% gain in performance, with twice as many processing units. And the CPU is unlocked.
None of that will matter however, as you are dead set on hating on Intel for giving us the ability to OC the CPU's if we so wish, but you only hate on them for not covering it under warranty, not AMD or NV etc etc all of who do not cover it under warranty either.
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Go buy a BMW ///M or Cadillac V and then take you warrantied vehicle that's "track ready" to the local track and hot lap that biotch about 20 times until your brakes wear out and your rotors warp. Then take it back to the dealership and ask them to replace your brakes and rotors under warranty. Be honest too and tell them they got in that condition because it was a bad azz track and you drove it like you stole it around those curves. You think they're going to honor the warranty ?
The various industries sell us all kinds of junk that is supposed to perform beyond the normal items, yet still have the ability to deny warranty coverage for them because you "abused" it.
The various industries sell us all kinds of junk that is supposed to perform beyond the normal items, yet still have the ability to deny warranty coverage for them because you "abused" it.
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No just no.
Brakes a are a wear item and wearing them out is not a manufacturer defect.
Same as a clutch.
Wow, you're not even close. It could maybe be compared to removing the 180 mph factory speed limit and driving 210 mph while making sure it is properly warmed up first and cooled afterwards. Not even then as they really aren't comparable.
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Hes talking an hour+ hot session, the engine will over heat before that anyway. Seen it a million times, someone taking a newer sports car to the track, only to pit/pull off because of loss of power as the cooling system can't keep up with track duty and the engine going into limp mode.
In either case, no matter what happens to the car, if they find out it happened while on a tack, your warranty will be void.
Pay for insurance? Get in a wreck at the track? Sorry, no coverage for you. The point is there are terms and limits with EVERYTHING. If you don't like them, go somewhere else or vote with your wallet and get something else.
Actually no. Driving a car on the track, totally stock, within its limits, never over revving, never passing the speed governor, etc etc, if something goes wrong, they will not cover it, even if its sold as a sports car or even sold with a "track pack". This has happened many times, people braking cars by doing what they were not meant to. There have been less than a handful of cases were the cars were even sold as track cars, at an extreme mark up, but taking them to the track and running them would still void the warranty.
What is amazing is that people either don't understand this is how everything we buy is done, or they are willingly ignoring that fact for every other product except for Intel, who is somehow super evil for doing the exact same thing everyone else does.
Isn't that because only one of them issued a statement on the matter recently? The outcry from the overclocking community is understandable given that the company markets to them directly.
You are making me laugh!!!
How many i5-2500K were bought because of their better iGPU?
I am showing you a pattern of marketing to overclockers. Since you were arguing before that the higher price means higher clocks, i found cpus clocked the same with different prices.
Obviously you are biased.
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It was a forum post in relation to not being able to warranty a CPU based on a (still) working CPU that is hitting a temperature the user just didn't "like".
Now your excuse has moved to "well, even though the others don't warranty it either and we all know this, it just hasn't been mentioned in a while so they are good". What sort of logic is that?
And you don't seem to understand they can make and market a product that has abilities we want, but they are not willing to warranty, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
It was a forum post in relation to not being able to warranty a CPU based on a (still) working CPU that is hitting a temperature the user just didn't "like".
Now your excuse has moved to "well, even though the others don't warranty it either and we all know this, it just hasn't been mentioned in a while so they are good". What sort of logic is that?
And you don't seem to understand they can make and market a product that has abilities we want, but they are not willing to warranty, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
Find me a link to where I posted "excuses". You make stuff up like Shittai! You must be budddies!
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Buy a Dodge Demon and drag race it and its covered, cause it was purpose built for it and Dodge stands behind it, they even say so in their marketing materials. Why did they do that you say, cause they pandered to the drag racing guys and wanted to prove the car can take the abuse. So your actually wrong by assuming it's all the same. I am sure you can come up with another excuse tho.
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Your excuse was quoted? AMD and NV are in the clear because even though they have it in their terms, they have not said anything about it, but because Intel has, they are the only evil ones.
Try again. Yes, the Dodge Demon is covered under warranty, just like the GT350, or the Intel 7700K, but if you run the Demon out of what it was meant for, warranty is void, this includes racing.
Straight from the Dodge website on warranty coverage:
"Mopar warranties do not cover the costs of repairing damage or conditions caused by fire or accident; by abuse, negligence or misuse (for example: driving over curbs, or overloading or racing the vehicle); by improper adjustment, alteration or failure to maintain the vehicle on which parts are installed; or corrosion or damage caused by the use of caustic materials. Mopar warranties do not cover parts installed on a vehicle used for racing or competition, nor do they cover the repair of any damage or conditions caused by racing or competition."
Yet another example of people who can't read. You going to go from all this love for Dodge to hating on them now? Seems like it's fine to do for Intel but no one else.
So again, zero support for your argument. Just repeat it 1000 times, Goebbels like...
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Nope you cant read http://www.allpar.com/news/2017/04/do-racing-cars-have-warranties-37180
Normally they dont but since the Demon was special made they covered it for people using it that way.
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I like that my information is from the manufacture that states the Demon is covered by the normal 3yr warranty and links to the terms that state it is void if you track it. And yours is a link to a unrelated 3rd party website, talking about a car not sold yet and states "damage which occur at your local test-n-tune should be covered". So you are basing all of this, not on facts, but on a "should" from a 3rd party with no sources, got it.
Now, lets assume that they did for a second. It shows that if you pay an extreme premium some mfgs might cover a given use, that in no way, shape or form means anyone else has to. The logic behind that is just dumbfounding.
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No its a fact, I am a car guy and it was big news, came straight from the head of SRT development. You paint shit with broad strokes and write lawyer statements as if that is the hard truth, one of the reasons why we have courts. Simple fact is we have to prove you abused it and that is much harder to prove in a court of law, something I dont think you understand. Plus I used to work in car development for Chrysler and we all know SRT cars and Vipers are going to get abused, just dont want people actually racing them in a competition and expect us to pay for it. Just like Intel or AMD wont cover your chip while your trying for the world record in overclocking. However normal use and slight abuse will always be covered, cause its to damn hard to prove in court the customer caused the fault and it was not a defect, unless the customer makes it obvious.
I agree, he doesn't understand how courts work.
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Car guy here to buddy, doesn't mean I get to change terms to my fancy.
Since you now magically now work for Chrysler and have this information straight from the head of SRT development, I am sure you will have no problem linking to it.
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I used to work at Chrysler, I no longer do which I mentioned. It's a 2018 model and the website only has 2017 information up and a preview of the Demon. Send email to Ralph Gilles or ask him on twitter https://twitter.com/ralphgilles?lang=en He is a nice guy so be polite. he was a big part of why the Viper exists.
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So take your word, or go on a wild hunt, for some information you claim about a single mfg on a single model, that would still mean nothing to Intel as they have the choice, just like Dodge to not cover a given use under warranty.
You are using a single model, thats not out yet, because all the others along with all the other SRT line are NOT covered for this use, based on a "maybe" from some special channel of information you have, to try and demonize Intel. Good God, I am done with this. Good troll.
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People drag race cars all the time and dont get denied when something breaks. It's the burden of proof that one has to meet if your going to deny a claim and courts like facts not theories. I am sorry you dont understand that and I feel sorry for your lack of understanding of how the legal system works. If Intel is going to deny a claim they better be able to prove it, otherwise they will get ordered in court to honor the warranty and likely have to pay out quite a bit of cash as well. Just easier to cover something especially something that has far less cost then car parts and keep the customer happy.
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This has nothing to do with being able to prove it, I stated that in my first post, good God. This thread is about another thread where people are posting problems with their auto overclocks and sending system information logs to Intel SHOWING the overclock, did you even read the original thread this is all about? Doesn't seem like it. What is in the terms has NOTHING to do with being able to prove it, that is just.....You know what, never mind, I said I am done and this post of yours just shows how far gone you are, good luck.
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Why are people talking about cars?
Basically, because the argument was lost one or two pages ago. As mentioned in #80, even the title of this thread doesn't correspond to what Intel said.
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I pointed that out in #3 and it hasn't stopped anyone.