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Yea VGA was a brief experiment while I waited for an hdmi cable to arrive (gotta love monoprice) I could literally feel the lag over VGA when moving the mouse pointer, but HDMI was fine.
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How does gaming on a Plasma perform?
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Yea VGA was a brief experiment while I waited for an hdmi cable to arrive (gotta love monoprice) I could literally feel the lag over VGA when moving the mouse pointer, but HDMI was fine.
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Owned.
Look, for everyone just joining us now, the simple fact is this: there isn't one single LCD on the market worth buying right now for movies or games unless you play motion-sensitive games competitively, in which you should get a CRT. The only use for LCD at the moment is for work on 16:10.
@ ZoNe - maybe you're particularly ultra-sensitive to screen door, or maybe you have a pretty old TV. On the newer plasmas, it is honestly virtually impossible to seen screen door from about 1m away as long as you don't have text on the screen. It's no where near as obvious on LCDs. You can watch movies and play games from that distance and not notice any pixels at all.
So the only thing that is absolute utter crap is the statement you made.
My bad, they do that too, depends on the model. Out of the two, I prefer BFI to motion interpolation. Still doesn't count as 120hz until I can actually feed it 120 fps.
And still looks like crap.
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Depends on what you're doing. I don't do much work or internet time on the plasma. It's purpose is movies and games, where it excels.
Yes, the look of my 1080p plasma and 1080p LCD are virtually identical in that respect, as they have about the same dot pitch. Pixels are pixels when it comes to LCD or plasma.
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OP here. Yeah from reading this i am now worried am i to close? Im about 7 feet away, and will be hopefully buying one of the new Panasonic Plasma's...guess il have to wait and see/read/hear how they are overall but especially pay attention to how they are when at the Min distance suggested (6-7 feet).
ARrgggh don't let these nutters scare you!!
You're more than 2 meters away - if you're gaming or watching movies you WILL NOT see pixels.
Note that the two or three people telling you to go for it actually own new 42 or larger plasmas and use them for movies and games at a close distance. The people saying otherwise are either theorycrafting or own old models or LCDs.
I sit one metre away from my low range Panny 42 inch plasma. I watch movies on it and game on it with keyboard and mouse on a desk. You *cannot* see the pixels unless you lean forward and squint. The only time I can see them from that distance is when reading text documents - which isn't the purpose of the screen.
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Thanks guys, confidence restored. Yeah i prefer desk for keyboard and mouse but my setup works. A different question for you:
Where should my eye line be on the tv when i get it and wall mount it? Currently my 32" LCD is on a tv stand (keeping it) which has doors full of my game consoles and games. However,when the TV is setup on it like it is, the middle of the screen is at perfect eye level with me in my chair. Is that where you want it? Cause when mounted the 55" will have to be higher, and obviously it being bigger, the center of the screen will be higher too.
Minimum distance is not just about DPI but viewing angle.
For example, when you sit in the front row at the theater, most find it less pleasurable since they have to move their eyes and sometimes even their heads too much to view all the action.
7 feet away is a non-issue though, but if you tried to use a 50" as a desktop monitor then you'd probably gag from the huge viewing angle and low DPI.
Recommended viewing distances=garbage IMO.
This is why we have consolse gamers saying games like the COD series (1024x600p), Halo series (biggest budget yet worst looking games) and Kane & Lynch 2 look better than the true 1280x720p games (KZ3, Lost Planet 2, Singularity), when infact this is not techincally possible. They are simply sitting to far away to have a valid opinion.
One should attempt to fill their field of view with their TV, while also not having to shift your head to see parts of the screen like Ducman says above.
4-4.5ft should be ideal for a 42" display. Screen coating should also be considered, pixels are much easier to see on a matte panel vs glossy/glass. I sit 4.5ft away from a 46" Samsung A950 (glass/glossy) and can't see the pixels when being used as a PC monitor, might want to be a bit futher back with a matte screen.
I personally love MCFI for movies. True 24p is disgusting depending on how the camera is panned buildings frames appear to by tilting and every is far too blurry due to the low frame rate, this is one of the reasons I hate going to the movie theater (combined with the pathetic black levels). Can't wait till all films are shot at 60fps.
This is why we have consolse gamers saying games like the COD series (1024x600p), Halo series (biggest budget yet worst looking games) and Kane & Lynch 2 look better than the true 1280x720p games (KZ3, Lost Planet 2, Singularity), when infact this is not techincally possible. They are simply sitting to far away to have a valid opinion.
One should attempt to fill their field of view with their TV, while also not having to shift your head to see parts of the screen like Ducman says above.
4-4.5ft should be ideal for a 42" display. Screen coating should also be considered, pixels are much easier to see on a matte panel vs glossy/glass. I sit 4.5ft away from a 46" Samsung A950 (glass/glossy) and can't see the pixels when being used as a PC monitor, might want to be a bit futher back with a matte screen.
I personally love MCFI for movies. True 24p is disgusting depending on how the camera is panned buildings frames appear to by tilting and every is far too blurry due to the low frame rate, this is one of the reasons I hate going to the movie theater (combined with the pathetic black levels). Can't wait till all films are shot at 60fps.
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This is a pretty good calculator for screen size vs seating distance: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1229341535
Most people buy TVs with the bigger = better mentality instead of based on how far away they're sitting from it. At my friend's home a 50+" TV is necessary because the sofa is much further away. At my place due to my living room being a narrow but long space I have to have the sofa pretty close so 46" is about the maximum size for not seeing pixels where I'm sitting. I currently use a 40" TV, 42" would probably be ideal.
Films will never be shot at 60 fps. The 24 fps framerate is actually important for the movie experience. If you double the motion resolution via whatever method, the movie starts looking like a TV news broadcast. It completely changes the feel and this has actually been used for effect in some movies in those "running with handheld cameras" scenes.
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How was the Plasma hooked up, VGA, HDMI etc?
I experianced the most input lag over VGA but once I switched to HDMI I was getting much better results (around 23ms average between several shots I took).
Kuro 5080HD plasma & Sony FW900 CRT.
IIRC it was over HDMI. The other two were using mini-Dip->Dual-link DVI adapters. Also again I want to point out that every HDTV (be LCD or Plasma) I've had input lag issues with. No I have not done any research into what TV's have low input lag (because I just wouldn't use a TV for gaming).
It may well be, but I am quite confident that 24p standard exists only because it was one of the first standards, became popularized, and thus stuck. The equipment used in theaters also differs from the plasmas and LCDs in people's homes.
Generally speaking, native 24p is pretty crappy for home use. I'm not one for crazy high framerates as I believe in diminishing returns, but thats a pretty low framerate by any standard and interpolation generally produces a much nicer smoother looking picture IMO.
my bad, OP, I didn't mean to say you need to sit far in order to avoid seeing the pixels, but that being super close like one is to a computer monitor isn't a good idea. 7 feet is my distance from my 1366x768 50", and it's OK. I'm thinking about grabbing one of the new panasonics, too. The "wow it's big" feeling of the 50" is long gone, so I hope the price is reasonable on larger sets.
Same here. I love my Panny G10 50" but I think I should have either waited or put another G on it and picked up a 58 or 60something". I won't be upgrading my HT this year since I have everything I need. A screen that bigger than 50" is a nice to have item right now. Maybe next year.
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So i found this: http://hdguru.com/panasonic-2011-hdtv-prices-leaked/3840/ , what looks like the IT plasma to get? (50-55inch range).
Im guessing either the TC-P55GT30 $2199.95 (GT-30)
or the TC-P55VT30 $2799.95 (VT-30)
Im guessing either the TC-P55GT30 $2199.95 (GT-30)
or the TC-P55VT30 $2799.95 (VT-30)
Allow me to fix that for you.
Oh WTF, dude! Why did you post that? Now I REALLY want to upgrade! I have my eyes on the VT series.
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Allow me to fix that for you.
Oh WTF, dude! Why did you post that? Now I REALLY want to upgrade! I have my eyes on the VT series.
Lol yeah, thats the question is are those the "it" tv's to watch and wait for. I am just curious (it might take them being out and reviewed to answer) which is the one to get and what are the differences between the GT-30 and VT-30. If its worth spending the extra $600 for the VT-30, and if so why? Like what features does it have that are worth $600?
How did the blacks look? I can't say that I'm dissapointed with what my Panasonic G10 does compared to my Sony XBR 910 but there is room for improvement.I saw the VT30 plasmas at CES last month.
Hooooooly shit, I already started saving up for the 65". Think I'll move the Kuro into my office.