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HELP with mobile 2400!!!

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allenwr1505

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I just received a mobile 2400+ from Newegg, stepping AQYFA 0343 (I know, it's a crappy stepping and I was hoping for better). Anyways, I put it into my computer, and I put it as a 3200+ with 1.575v. I then booted into windows and ran Prime95. A couple of minutes into Prime, a windows message popped up saying that Prime needed to close because it was nonresponsive. I told it to close, because I figured that it must not be stable. I then turned off my computer and turned my speed down to 1.7ghz with 1.45v. When I tried to boot into windows, it would show the windows loading screen (the one after the bios with the Windows icon and the moving bar), and then my screen would flicker at the point that the mouse pointer usually would appear. However, the mouse pointer didn't appear, and the screen stayed blank for a few moments, and then the computer rebooted. I tried for hours tweaking the different BIOS settings, including changing the processor speeds and such, but nothing worked. I couldn't get into windows. It would hang at the place I mentioned earlier every time.

Well, I want to know what I should do. I tried running chkdsk, and it found some errors and fixed them, and I also reset my CMOS a couple of times. I even took off my heatsink and redid the Arctic Silver. What is wrong? Should I flash to a different BIOS? I am currently using Abit's D21 bios. Maybe it doesn't like the mobile. I don't think that the fsb is the issue, because I tried multiple FSBs. Do I need to reinstall Windows? Should I flash my bios by floppy using tic tac's bios (it's a bios for the ABIT NF7-S that has many mods that fix various things such as the 10x multiplier issue)?

Help me please.
 
No. But then I immediately tried running it at stock speeds. The speeds I tried running it at before stock were 2200mhz with 1.57v, which I thought it should be able to handle without a problem. Do you think that I screwed up windows? If so, I've got a crappy chip.
 
You should have verified that it ran stably at stock speeds (baka!) it could be possible that the chip was defective to start with. What's your cooling like? It's possible that it could have been damaged when you OCed it.
I guess you can't really RMA it too. :(
 
I haven't tried reinstalling Windows yet. I'm going to try that, but first I'm going to try flashing the BIOS. Also, interestingly enough, whenever I try to boot into Windows, and then run chkdsk on the Windows Repair Consol, Chkdsk finds "one or more errors." However, when I simply reboot my computer and run chkdsk again (i.e. without trying to boot into Windows), chkdsk finds no errors. This means that every time I try to boot into windows, it not only hangs, but it also creates errors on the disk.

Also, it should be able to run fine at the settings I had it at when I first used it. Though, I should have tested it at stock first. But, 3200+ speeds aren't much of an overclock anyway, right? I mean, since my current Barton can hit them at stock voltage, I thought the mobile would be able to do it easily at 1.575v.

Oh, and as to my cooling, it's a SLK-900A with a 92mm Tornado on top. I have two 120mm fans on my case. No problems there. I'm using an Antec 350w power supply.

Also, if the chip is defective, won't Newegg charge me a 15% restocking fee? I'll determine if it's defective after reinstalling Windows and flashing the bios. I don't think the problem is the chip though, since I can get into the Windows installation cd and do stuff.
 
Originally posted by allenwr1505
I haven't tried reinstalling Windows yet. I'm going to try that, but first I'm going to try flashing the BIOS. Also, interestingly enough, whenever I try to boot into Windows, and then run chkdsk on the Windows Repair Consol, Chkdsk finds "one or more errors." However, when I simply reboot my computer and run chkdsk again (i.e. without trying to boot into Windows), chkdsk finds no errors. This means that every time I try to boot into windows, it not only hangs, but it also creates errors on the disk.

Also, it should be able to run fine at the settings I had it at when I first used it. Though, I should have tested it at stock first. But, 3200+ speeds aren't much of an overclock anyway, right? I mean, since my current Barton can hit them at stock voltage, I thought the mobile would be able to do it easily at 1.575v.

Oh, and as to my cooling, it's a SLK-900A with a 92mm Tornado on top. I have two 120mm fans on my case. No problems there. I'm using an Antec 350w power supply.

Also, if the chip is defective, won't Newegg charge me a 15% restocking fee? I'll determine if it's defective after reinstalling Windows and flashing the bios. I don't think the problem is the chip though, since I can get into the Windows installation cd and do stuff.
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first of all, you need more than 1.575 to do 3200+. Try 1.65. If you return it to newegg for another 2400+, they will send you a new one, but if you ask for a refund, they will charge the restocking fee.

My mobile couldnt run stock speeds with stock voltages. But with a little bit more juice, it ran just fine.
 
Originally posted by boshi
first of all, you need more than 1.575 to do 3200+. Try 1.65. If you return it to newegg for another 2400+, they will send you a new one, but if you ask for a refund, they will charge the restocking fee.

My mobile couldnt run stock speeds with stock voltages. But with a little bit more juice, it ran just fine.
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Ok. I flashed the bios, and it didn't fix the problem. So, I reinstalled Windows and it worked fine. I am currently running Prime to test it.

By the way, what's your stepping and how far did you get with it? I've heard that AQYFA is a bad stepping. I was hoping that most of the old ones would be gone, such as the one I received. Unfortunately, I got unlucky.
 
Originally posted by allenwr1505
Ok. I flashed the bios, and it didn't fix the problem. So, I reinstalled Windows and it worked fine. I am currently running Prime to test it.

By the way, what's your stepping and how far did you get with it? I've heard that AQYFA is a bad stepping. I was hoping that most of the old ones would be gone, such as the one I received. Unfortunately, I got unlucky.
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Yea like i said o/cing can bork windows. Most of the time it doesnt, but sometimes it does.
 
Originally posted by Wixard
Yea like i said o/cing can bork windows. Most of the time it doesnt, but sometimes it does.
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Yes. I guess it did. Right now I'm testing its overclocking, and its disappointing. I was hoping to get 2.5ghz at 1.75v, but due to my crappy stepping, it takes almost 1.6v just to get 3200+ speeds. I have heard of many other people with different steppings getting 3200+ speeds at 1.45v. Stock voltage.
 
Originally posted by allenwr1505
Ok. I flashed the bios, and it didn't fix the problem. So, I reinstalled Windows and it worked fine. I am currently running Prime to test it.

By the way, what's your stepping and how far did you get with it? I've heard that AQYFA is a bad stepping. I was hoping that most of the old ones would be gone, such as the one I received. Unfortunately, I got unlucky.
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My stepping starts with an I and it's the 2500+. I've been able to get 2700MHz at 2.1v but it wasnt quite prime stable. I'm gonna get better cooling and try for more later.
 
ummmmmmm

heres whats YOU do:

format your HD.
set your cpu at roughly 2.2ghz at 1.85V (your cooling should be able to handle this)

and then make sure your FSB is set to your ram's liking.

I highly doubt your cpu couldn't do 2.2ghz at 1.85V
hell it should manage thata at 1.75V but over-do the voltage to make sure its not a problem....

my mobile 2400 is kinda funky on its own right.
 
Originally posted by boshi
first of all, you need more than 1.575 to do 3200+. Try 1.65. If you return it to newegg for another 2400+, they will send you a new one, but if you ask for a refund, they will charge the restocking fee.

My mobile couldnt run stock speeds with stock voltages. But with a little bit more juice, it ran just fine.
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So I can just return it and ask Newegg to send me another one? Is the only downside of that the shipping and downtime? I am tempted to try it. I was thinking about trying to sell it on ebay, and trying to buy a new one, but this sounds better. First though, I'll see how far this one can go.
 
first, see if this one is stable at stock speed. if it is, see how high you can overclock it

if you dont like the performance out of it, sell on ebay and buy another.
 
Dont return it because it doesnt overclock as much as youd like it to. You paid for a 2400+ you do get a 2400+ If itll do 3000+ great, if not, you still get what you paid for.

Buying processors and returning them just to try to get a better overclock is wrong. Although many companies will test the returned item, if the item works, they send it right back to you. If it doesnt you get a new one.
 
Originally posted by Wixard
Don't return it simply because it doesn't overclock as much as you'd like it to. You paid for a 2400+ you do got a 2400+ If it'll do 3000+ great, if not, you still got what you paid for.
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Can't agree more, that kind of crap really pisses me off. You bought a Mobile 2400+, you got a Mobile 2400+. Selling it on eBay is different though or maybe post it in the For Sale thread here, just don't RMA it because you borked it trying to OC it.
 
could be the mobo, my friend just got a mobile 2400, but with better stepping, and his msi nforce 2 ultra 400 wouldnt support the stock multi's and then stopped booting below stock. then we swapped it for a brand new NF7 and now it runs perfect.
 
Right now I'm burning it in with Prime at 200*11 with 1.60v. I'll see what it can do later. And, I'll sell it on ebay or here rather than RMA'ing it. Otherwise, I'd have a week or longer downtime while I wait for a CPU.
 
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