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Can't seem to get this to work with my cable service. Do I have to have digital cable for this to work?

This is what I have: SiliconDust HDHR3-CC HDHomeRun PRIME CableCARD TV tuners

Now, I used to have an older PCI TV Tuner card that I used to watch TV on my PC. I've since been upgrading my HTPC setup, so I can no longer use the PCI card since I do not have a PCI slot. I went with this unit so I'm not limited to watching TV on just one PC (HTPC) plus the ability to record multiple shows at once.

After getting this, I've hooked it up and tried to use it without a CableCARD since I don't really want/need channels you have to subscribe too. I have basic cable and it works for me. However, it wasn't picking up any channel only three channels that are OTA channels, despite setting the Tuners as "Digital Cable".. So I went to my Cable providers office and got a CableCARD to pair with the unit. Got home, set it up, called them to get it paired on their end and it's reporting as established.

However, I still can not see what I want to watch in Windows Media Center. Anytime I try to watch channels 2 - 70 (The basic TV channels) it tells me that there is no TV Signal. If I try to watch a channel > 100, it tells me I need to be subscribed to them. (Not a big deal, don't want to watch them anyway.)

I've tried calling my Cable provider to see if they can help me and they just don't know either. What I personally think the issue is;

My basic TV service is being sent to me in an NTSC format; thus this tuner can not retrieve it. I do get some channels now that I've got a CableCard paired with it, but I really can't tell what channels they are as I can only preview them with the SiliconDusts software, MCE still doesn't work. Also I get no sound on those channels. I believe it's like ~10 channels or so. I've asked them about going to digital TV service if it will send the signal in clearQAM so my tuner can read it but he told me that it's still an analog signal sent to the cable box and the cable box converts it to digital? :confused:

I am so confused on what I need to do here. I don't even know where to start. :confused:
 
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I have no idea but I was going to be doing something similar for my sister. So I'm interested in this thread. Also you might want to mention who your cable company is.
 
Have you followed the instructions?

http://www.silicondust.com/images/hdhomerun/QS_HDHomeRun_PRIME.pdf

Even if the cablecard is paired you still need to do the digital cable advisor and get playready installed and updated. For it to work in windows media center. Also you need to the digital cable activation in media center for the device to start working properly. I learned this hard way when I added a second HDHomerun prime to my network.

Do you know if your provider does SDV (switched digital video)? For Cox where I live standard def channels are switched and need a tuning adapter to get.
 
I do have the CableCard paired, I also have play ready installed and updated, which was a lot of trouble but I got it updated.

Additionally, I have found that I can watch/view some channels in the upper 400s and I can listen to the music channels in the 800+ range. However all the channels in the Standard Cable lineup does not work (Channels below 100)

I have no idea if my provider does SDV. How can I find that out? What tuning adapter are you talking about?

Here is the log output from the tuner.

Code:
19700101-00:00:00 System: reset reason = power on 
19700101-00:00:01 CableCARD: M-CARD inserted 
19700101-00:00:02 System: network link 100f 
19700101-00:00:03 System: ip address obtained: 192.168.1.146 / 255.255.255.0 
19700101-00:00:04 CableCARD: Motorola card (0000:0625) 
19700101-00:00:04 CableCARD: authentication status: authentication in progress 
19700101-00:00:04 CableCARD: authentication status: authentication success, activation success 
20130110-00:02:14 CableCARD: time changed from Thu Jan 01 00:00:14 1970 to Thu Jan 10 00:02:14 2013 
20130110-00:05:49 CableCARD: Tuner2: vchannel 0 (651MHz-18) access = subscribed 
20130110-00:06:03 CableCARD: Tuner2: vchannel 200 (495MHz-200) access = subscribed 
20130110-00:06:18 CableCARD: Tuner2: vchannel 200 (495MHz-200) access = subscribed 
20130110-00:06:24 CableCARD: Tuner2: vchannel 460 (615MHz-460) access = subscribed 
20130110-00:06:47 CableCARD: Tuner2: vchannel 475 (117MHz-475) access = subscribed 
20130110-00:09:38 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 33 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:09:38 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 33 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:09:38 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 33 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:09:51 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 36 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:09:51 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 36 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:09:51 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 36 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:10:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 43 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:10:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 43 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:10:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 43 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:35:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:35:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-00:35:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:34:28 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:34:28 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:34:28 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:35:15 CableCARD: Tuner1: vchannel 502 (99MHz-502) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:35:25 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 470 (117MHz-470) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:42:20 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:42:20 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:42:20 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:42:40 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:42:40 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:42:40 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 10 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 10 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 10 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:40 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 12 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:40 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 12 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:40 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 12 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:53 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 11 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:53 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 11 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:43:53 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 11 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:44:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 32 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:44:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 32 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:44:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 32 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:44:19 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 103 (483MHz-103) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:44:47 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 470 (117MHz-470) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:45:16 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 491 (531MHz-491) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:45:29 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 492 (459MHz-492) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:45:46 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 498 (459MHz-498) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:45:58 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 490 (531MHz-490) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:46:10 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 466 (615MHz-466) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:46:25 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 455 (117MHz-455) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:46:56 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 425 (525MHz-425) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:47:14 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 415 (441MHz-415) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:47:33 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 303 (483MHz-303) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:47:41 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 304 (477MHz-304) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:47:46 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 305 (465MHz-305) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:47:53 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 306 (477MHz-306) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:47:56 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 307 (495MHz-307) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:47:57 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 308 (483MHz-308) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:47:59 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 309 (471MHz-309) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:03 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 310 (477MHz-310) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 311 (495MHz-311) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 312 (471MHz-312) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 313 (507MHz-313) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:10 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 314 (495MHz-314) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:11 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 315 (477MHz-315) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:26 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 331 (585MHz-331) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:29 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 339 (597MHz-339) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:32 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 340 (489MHz-340) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:36 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 341 (483MHz-341) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:38 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 342 (471MHz-342) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:39 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 345 (495MHz-345) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:41 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 346 (483MHz-346) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:42 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 353 (597MHz-353) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:44 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 354 (597MHz-354) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:45 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 355 (597MHz-355) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:47 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 356 (597MHz-356) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:48:50 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 370 (471MHz-370) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:48:52 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 390 (477MHz-390) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:01 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 391 (483MHz-391) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:10 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 390 (477MHz-390) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:11 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 370 (471MHz-370) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:49:13 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 370 (471MHz-370) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:49:15 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 390 (477MHz-390) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:15 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 370 (471MHz-370) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:49:20 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 390 (477MHz-390) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:22 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 391 (483MHz-391) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:27 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 410 (591MHz-410) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:33 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 411 (585MHz-411) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:35 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 414 (591MHz-414) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:37 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 415 (441MHz-415) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:47 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 420 (519MHz-420) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:51 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 422 (579MHz-422) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:49:59 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 428 (525MHz-428) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:50:01 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 429 (579MHz-429) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:50:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 427 (567MHz-427) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:50:12 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 433 (447MHz-433) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:50:15 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 435 (573MHz-435) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:50:24 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 455 (117MHz-455) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:25 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 456 (495MHz-456) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:29 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 457 (615MHz-457) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:30 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 460 (615MHz-460) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:32 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 465 (621MHz-465) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:35 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 466 (615MHz-466) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:38 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 470 (117MHz-470) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:40 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 475 (117MHz-475) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:45 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 476 (621MHz-476) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:50:50 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 490 (531MHz-490) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:50:54 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 491 (531MHz-491) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:50:57 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 493 (447MHz-493) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:50:59 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 495 (453MHz-495) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:02 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 496 (537MHz-496) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 497 (459MHz-497) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 498 (459MHz-498) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:10 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 497 (459MHz-497) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:11 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 498 (459MHz-498) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:13 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 499 (567MHz-499) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:15 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 501 (99MHz-501) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:16 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 502 (99MHz-502) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:18 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 503 (99MHz-503) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:19 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 504 (99MHz-504) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:22 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 601 (495MHz-601) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:32 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 602 (477MHz-602) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:33 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 604 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:51:33 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 604 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:51:33 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 604 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:51:34 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 603 (483MHz-603) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:37 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 607 (513MHz-607) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:42 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 604 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:51:42 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 604 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:51:42 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 604 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:51:43 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 605 (489MHz-605) access = not-subscribed 
20130110-01:51:54 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 801 (465MHz-801) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:54 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 802 (465MHz-802) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:55 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 803 (465MHz-803) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:55 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 804 (465MHz-804) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:55 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 806 (465MHz-806) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:56 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 807 (465MHz-807) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:56 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 808 (465MHz-808) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:56 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 809 (465MHz-809) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:56 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 810 (465MHz-810) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:57 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 811 (465MHz-811) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:57 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 812 (465MHz-812) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:57 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 813 (465MHz-813) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:57 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 814 (465MHz-814) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:57 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 815 (465MHz-815) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:58 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 816 (465MHz-816) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:58 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 817 (465MHz-817) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:58 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 818 (465MHz-818) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:58 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 819 (465MHz-819) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:59 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 820 (465MHz-820) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:59 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 821 (465MHz-821) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:59 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 822 (465MHz-822) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:51:59 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 823 (465MHz-823) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:00 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 824 (465MHz-824) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:00 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 825 (471MHz-825) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:01 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 827 (471MHz-827) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:01 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 828 (471MHz-828) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:01 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 829 (471MHz-829) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:02 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 830 (471MHz-830) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:02 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 832 (471MHz-832) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:03 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 834 (471MHz-834) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:03 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 835 (471MHz-835) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:03 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 838 (471MHz-838) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:03 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 839 (471MHz-839) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 840 (471MHz-840) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 841 (471MHz-841) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 842 (471MHz-842) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:04 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 843 (471MHz-843) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 844 (471MHz-844) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 845 (471MHz-845) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 846 (471MHz-846) access = subscribed 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 2 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 3 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 3 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:05 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 3 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 4 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 4 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 4 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 5 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 5 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 5 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 6 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 6 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 6 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 7 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 7 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:06 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 7 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 8 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 8 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 8 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 9 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 9 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 9 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 10 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 10 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 10 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 11 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 11 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 11 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 12 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 12 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:07 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 12 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 13 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 13 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 13 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 14 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 14 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 14 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 15 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 15 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 15 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 17 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 17 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:08 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 17 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 18 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 18 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 18 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 19 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 19 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 19 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 20 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 20 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 20 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 21 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 21 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:09 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 21 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:10 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 22 unknown (not found) 
20130110-01:52:10 CableCARD: Tuner0: vchannel 22 unknown (not found) 
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You'll see that some of the upper ranged channels I can get; while the others it says I am not subscribed to. Do not care about those. What I need is the channels that are showing as "unknown (not found) in the sub 100 range.
 
I do have the CableCard paired, I also have play ready installed and updated, which was a lot of trouble but I got it updated.

Additionally, I have found that I can watch/view some channels in the upper 400s and I can listen to the music channels in the 800+ range. However all the channels in the Standard Cable lineup does not work (Channels below 100)

I have no idea if my provider does SDV. How can I find that out? What tuning adapter are you talking about?

You can find out by asking the Cable co, if you pretend you have a TiVo you may have an easier time with customer service. Or do a search online to find out if your provider is using SDV, not really any other way to tell. Assuming it's all paired properly and the channel lineup in Media Center is right then it should be working otherwise.
 
To find out if your provider does SDV you would need to call them. A tuning adapter is a device that will connect to your HDHomerun Prime through USB. The tuning adapter tells the tuner where to find the channels.

For example can you plug in a tv through coax and get these channels? If you can get them on ur TV but not ur Tuner its possible you'll need a tuning adapter. The should be free with the rental of a cablecard.
 
To find out if your provider does SDV you would need to call them. A tuning adapter is a device that will connect to your HDHomerun Prime through USB. The tuning adapter tells the tuner where to find the channels.

For example can you plug in a tv through coax and get these channels? If you can get them on ur TV but not ur Tuner its possible you'll need a tuning adapter. The should be free with the rental of a cablecard.

This is probably the case then. Since I can view those channels on my TV, however I can not with the HDHomerun Prime. I will give them a call tomorrow and ask them since they are closed now.

Will report back when I get information from them.

One last thing, should I go ahead and tell them it's for a Tivo device instead of HDHomerun Prime, they seem to get confused and want to give up helping me by saying they don't support devices like that since they have no training with it. :eek:

So basically I need to ask them for an SDV tuning device for my TiVo?
 
This is probably the case then. Since I can view those channels on my TV, however I can not with the HDHomerun Prime. I will give them a call tomorrow and ask them since they are closed now.

Will report back when I get information from them.

One last thing, should I go ahead and tell them it's for a Tivo device instead of HDHomerun Prime, they seem to get confused and want to give up helping me by saying they don't support devices like that since they have no training with it. :eek:

So basically I need to ask them for an SDV tuning device for my TiVo?

It dont matter really, i just call it a cablecard device. The real term is UDCP (Unidirectional Digital Cable Product).

But its termed as a "Tuning Adapter" they should be familiar with that term.

I wil say once it gets ironed its an awesome device. I love the freedom I have plus not paying receiver fees. It took me about 3 days to get everything working right.
 
Yea just say 'cablecard device' and default to Tivo if necessary, most service agents will say they 'don't support' a PC.

Agreed that it can be an enormous PITA to get running right, but it is fantastic once it all works.
 
If you don't have a lot of luck here you should check out the Silicon Dust forums.

Have you tried to completely redo the Windows Media Center setup? I mean you said you went through the setup before you got the cable card, right? Did you redo it when you got the cable card?

If you subscribe to cable you are pretty much going to have to have a cable card, at least in the near future as more and more cable companies are encrypting ALL channels, even the stuff available locally via OTA.
 
Thanks, I will give that a try and see how it goes.

That's my main plan to get away from hardware rental fees. Next up is giving them their Cable Modem back and getting my own. They charge $6 for the cable modem rental. Pretty sure the one I need to get will cost me like $80, so in about 13 and a half months it will pay for itself.
 
If you don't have a lot of luck here you should check out the Silicon Dust forums.

Have you tried to completely redo the Windows Media Center setup? I mean you said you went through the setup before you got the cable card, right? Did you redo it when you got the cable card?

If you subscribe to cable you are pretty much going to have to have a cable card, at least in the near future as more and more cable companies are encrypting ALL channels, even the stuff available locally via OTA.

I did redo the MCE setup a few times before and after getting the Cable Card. Although I am doing this on my main PC, the parts for my new HTPC setup have not arrived yet. Still waiting on the RAM and case to get here.

I can still watch the cable TV on my old TV Tuner card in my old HTPC. It's an analog tuner though, doesn't have a CableCard slot. However I'm limited to only one tuner and it can only be used on that system. I want/like the idea of having the flexibility of steaming the tuner over my network so almost any device connected to my network can use it.
 
I see 'Cable Card (provides digital access)' listed for $2.95/month.

The 'Tuning Adapter' won't be listed there. It shouldn't have a monthly charge associated with it.
 
Okay, I will call them tomorrow and inquire about it. I already have the Cable Card that I now pay $2.95 for.
 
It looks like ch. 1-99 are analog. The HDHR-Prime can't do anything with those.

Judging by the number of channels listed as "subscribed", it looks like the cable company thinks you're on their ~20-channel "economy" local-access-only package. If that's wrong, call them up and tell them to fix their provisioning. If it isn't, you'll need to bump up to the standard package to get access to the standard cable channels. According to their lineup, the standard channels should all be the the 400's.
 
It looks like ch. 1-99 are analog. The HDHR-Prime can't do anything with those.

Judging by the number of channels listed as "subscribed", it looks like the cable company thinks you're on their ~20-channel "economy" local-access-only package. If that's wrong, call them up and tell them to fix their provisioning. If it isn't, you'll need to bump up to the standard package to get access to the standard cable channels. According to their lineup, the standard channels should all be the the 400's.

That would explain why my analog TV tuner can view those channels just fine. It would also explain why the old tube TV in the living room can view those channels just fine as well.

So there is no way to get those channels on a digital tuner at all?

https://secure.cableone.net/public_resources/Pages/Channels/ChannelLineUp_Print.aspx?m=43

According to that, the 400s are all the "HD" packages. I have the Eco and Std channels already.
 
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It looks like ch. 1-99 are analog. The HDHR-Prime can't do anything with those.

Judging by the number of channels listed as "subscribed", it looks like the cable company thinks you're on their ~20-channel "economy" local-access-only package. If that's wrong, call them up and tell them to fix their provisioning. If it isn't, you'll need to bump up to the standard package to get access to the standard cable channels. According to their lineup, the standard channels should all be the the 400's.

Good catch, you would need an analog tuner for those. Doesn't watching SD programming make your eyes bleed anyway?? :)

Sounds like you don't have an HD package at all - so you get local channels in HD only (457-470).
 
The problem with that is not all channels are available in HD. Such as Spike. So I wont be able to watch channels that are not in HD unless I get an analog tuner?
 
Most cable providers are actually transitioning all (even SD) channel lineups to digital, looks like yours is a bit behind on this so yes, I don't think you have much of a choice except to include an analog tuner. The plus is that it should be pretty cheap since most people don't have any use for them.
 
Well I do have an analog tuner, however it's PCI. My new HTPC setup only has PCI-e slots. So I have to buy a new one.
 
I would check to see if your provider uses SDV for its SD channels. Those SD channels should still work on the HDHomerun Prime. If you getting "No TV Signal" it means that signal isn't being broadcasted all the time and it needs a tuning adapter to know how to tune that particular channel.

Not only that but law providers have to give access to all "linear" channels to cablecard subscribers.
 
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I would check to see if your provider uses SDV for its SD channels before getting an analog tuner.

I called them, they have no idea what "tuning device" for the CableCARD I was talking about. I used Tivo and they claimed customers have Tivo on their service with no issues picking up the sub 100 channels. So I am pretty sure it's gotta be because they are sending those signals in analog, right? :mad:
 
I would check to see if your provider uses SDV for its SD channels. Those SD channels should still work on the HDHomerun Prime. If you getting "No TV Signal" it means that signal isn't being broadcasted all the time and it needs a tuning adapter to know how to tune that particular channel.

Not only that but law providers have to give access to all "linear" channels to cablecard subscribers.

HDHomeRun won't pick up any SD channels if they are analog. He has access to them so the Cable Co is in compliance, the hardware is digital-only.

Sounds like it is an analog issue. And FYI, make sure to refer to it as 'tuning adapter', most cable service personnel are barely familiar with this stuff but that's the standard name for it.
 
Doesn't the HDHR3-US [non cable card] support analog & digital? If so, you could add one of those as well [you can run multiple devices on the network], versus having to slap a wonky analogue card in your machine, or get any funky IRblaster setups going on with a DTA
 
I looked it up, the dual tuner one? Apparently both tuners are digital as well. According to Amazons and Neweggs spec page.
 
Doesn't the HDHR3-US [non cable card] support analog & digital? If so, you could add one of those as well [you can run multiple devices on the network], versus having to slap a wonky analogue card in your machine, or get any funky IRblaster setups going on with a DTA

Nope, I believe the non-cable card version is digital only as well.
 
Also open a ticket at silicondust, they should be able to point in the right direction to get your issue resolved.
 
How do I open a ticket? I posted on their forums.
 
Maybe I missed it, but does your provider not re-broadcast your analog, SD channels in digital? In other words, you can get the same SD channels via CC, but on the digital broadcast?
 
Maybe I missed it, but does your provider not re-broadcast your analog, SD channels in digital? In other words, you can get the same SD channels via CC, but on the digital broadcast?

I'm guessing that's the whole problem, but that's really odd... must be one of those really old backwater cable systems still stuck in the transition. But you'd think if they were 'modern' enough to offer digital service and a CableCard they would have the common sense to make sure all of their basic analogue channels were also being transmitted on a digital channel.

It must suck to have that cable provider and be stuck watching an analogue signal for some channels....
 
I think I am going to have to get an analog tuner to watch the non HD channels it seems.

Will this one do what I need or does anyone have another one they recommend? I'd like to have two analog tuners, simply so I have the ability to record/watch at the same time different shows or record two different shows at once.

$105 - Hauppauge 1229 WinTV-HVR-2250 White Box for System Builders Dual Hybrid PCI-E TV Tuner Board
 
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I think I am going to have to get an analog tuner to watch the non HD channels it seems.

Will this one do what I need or does anyone have another one they recommend? I'd like to have two analog tuners, simply so I have the ability to record/watch at the same time different shows or record two different shows at once.

$105 - Hauppauge 1229 WinTV-HVR-2250 White Box for System Builders Dual Hybrid PCI-E TV Tuner Board

That one looks like it should work fine and fit your needs. I haven't used analog tuners in a LONG time but Hauppauge was pretty much the standard for tuners before Ceton/SiliconDust.
 
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Just waiting for everything to come in. Sure thought Amazon's shipping was faster than this. FFS, ordered the case back on the 3rd and it still hasn't even come in yet. :(
 
Got everything up and running. I have no idea why I even wasted my time trying to keep my SD channels available, I don't even want to watch them after viewing things in HD. :eek:

Now it's time for a descent set of speakers. Well let me rephrase that, I know what speakers I'm most likely going with and that's a set of Pioneers. What I need is a descent amp to power them and have connections to the computer. I have a Lepai LP-2020A+ on my main desktop, however I don't want/need a physical way to adjust the volume and other settings. Also it has an annoying blue LED around the volume control that I do not want. In fact, I've removed the blue LEDs on the case so they aren't showing. They are rather distracting to me, so I'd rather not deal with them.

Any suggestions on a good amp that can power two bookshelf speakers?
 
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